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06-25-2013, 11:46 AM
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Winners and Losers With Smaller Goalie Pads Next Year

Which goalies will benefit and which will be hurt by the change to goalie pads next year?
I can see Crawford struggle mightily to recover his play next year for example.
I don't know who plays with small goalie pads aside from mason.

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06-25-2013, 11:48 AM
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Brodeur is actually a winner

Lundqvist/Crawford losers

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Players that like to shoot 5-hole - winners.
Practically every goalie - losers.

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Players that like to shoot 5-hole - winners.
Practically every goalie - losers.
Yeah, don't see how any goalies win here. Maybe in comparison?

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Winners: Fans, for the madness of giant goalies in huge pads to finally be addressed
Losers: Fans, because it has taken nearly a decade to do much beyond minor tweaks.

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I'll be surprised if Luongo can stop a puck.

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Yeah, don't see how any goalies win here. Maybe in comparison?
Well, the guys who're already using smaller pads will have an advantage over guys who are going to have to change gear and adjust their games accordingly.

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The 10% shorter estimate doesn't sound overly practical to be honest. There are a few taller goalies who actually could use the safety argument in that case.

Current max height: 38"
- 10% = 34.2" .... That's close to the size I wore myself while playing bantam hockey, and I'm not above average in height.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not just an ex goalie trying to justify big pads, there are for sure a lot of guys who really push the boundaries on that stuff but guys like Dubnyk, Rinne, Bishop... pretty much anyone over 6 feet for that matter could have issues with pads that size.

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Crawford, Reimer, Quick, Lundqvist, Rinne are losers

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Crawford, Reimer, Quick, Lundqvist, Rinne are losers
Quick? One of the most athletic goalies in the league and already using smaller pads than most other goalies. Goalies affected most by this would be the pure butterfly position goalies.

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The 10% shorter estimate doesn't sound overly practical to be honest. There are a few taller goalies who actually could use the safety argument in that case.

Current max height: 38"
- 10% = 34.2" .... That's close to the size I wore myself while playing bantam hockey, and I'm not above average in height.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not just an ex goalie trying to justify big pads, there are for sure a lot of guys who really push the boundaries on that stuff but guys like Dubnyk, Rinne, Bishop... pretty much anyone over 6 feet for that matter could have issues with pads that size.
I have to agree. I'm not a goalie, but I have tried pads on for sizing references. I'm just under 6', and 34" pads are what I would wear. If I were any taller, I'd be screwed...And there's a lot of big goalies.

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They're actually making them smaller again ?

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I'll be surprised if Luongo can stop a puck.
He's actually one of the more athletic goalies out there. If anything, Schneider would be the one who is more hindered.

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So they set a max size that has nothing to do with player hight and what not? So a 5 10 goalie max size is the same as a 6 5 max size? That's kinda the worst possible way to do it...

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Which goalies will benefit and which will be hurt by the change to goalie pads next year?
I can see Crawford struggle mightily to recover his play next year for example.
I don't know who plays with small goalie pads aside from mason.
Are you referring to Steve Mason or Chris Mason?

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Craig Anderson already uses small pads. He should be fine.

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So they set a max size that has nothing to do with player hight and what not? So a 5 10 goalie max size is the same as a 6 5 max size? That's kinda the worst possible way to do it...
Set restrictions by Goaltender height and shorter goalies instantly have a much harder time making it in to the league in the first place. Can't happen.

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Are you referring to Steve Mason or Chris Mason?
Steve Mason. This was the reason he apparently struggled in CLB

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The 10% shorter estimate doesn't sound overly practical to be honest. There are a few taller goalies who actually could use the safety argument in that case.

Current max height: 38"
- 10% = 34.2" .... That's close to the size I wore myself while playing bantam hockey, and I'm not above average in height.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not just an ex goalie trying to justify big pads, there are for sure a lot of guys who really push the boundaries on that stuff but guys like Dubnyk, Rinne, Bishop... pretty much anyone over 6 feet for that matter could have issues with pads that size.


Good insight here.

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without thinking Steve Mason

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06-25-2013, 12:58 PM
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The 10% shorter estimate doesn't sound overly practical to be honest. There are a few taller goalies who actually could use the safety argument in that case.

Current max height: 38"
- 10% = 34.2" .... That's close to the size I wore myself while playing bantam hockey, and I'm not above average in height.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not just an ex goalie trying to justify big pads, there are for sure a lot of guys who really push the boundaries on that stuff but guys like Dubnyk, Rinne, Bishop... pretty much anyone over 6 feet for that matter could have issues with pads that size.
Essentially every goalie in the NHL is over 6 feet. Most are 6'3" ish.

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Did they actually announce their gonna change the pads next year or is this just a what if?

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I think this will actually help defensively-oriented teams. Smaller pads will make shot-blocking even more important, which those teams already do well. In addition, teams with less offensive creativity should have a lot easier time scoring goals, since it will be less necessary to make a nice pass to find the empty net.

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Giguere will be a loser of it.

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Set restrictions by Goaltender height and shorter goalies instantly have a much harder time making it in to the league in the first place. Can't happen.
Doesn't make any sense either. No other equipment regulations are set entirely in proportion to body size. You aren't allowed to have a bigger curve on your stick if you are taller or a bigger baseball glove if you are taller.

I could see an exception though for players so tall the pads do not actually cover their legs. Similar to the stick length exception for players above 6'6''.

As for the biggest losers:

-Fleury
-Luongo
-Giguere

All guys with big pads. All guys who's career is at a crossing point. None of these guys can afford to lose a step right now. Luongo has a long and guaranteed contract, so financially he will be ok. Can't say the same for Fleury and Giggy though.

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