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06-03-2005, 02:25 PM
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Search for new Marlies coach...

A couple of articles out today re. the job.

Two big candidates (no surprise): Greg Gilbert and Peter DeBoer.

Some other names:

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The Leafs may also speak with longtime NHL assistant coach Don Lever, who has spent the last two seasons with the St. Louis Blues — and who, coincidentally, is the brother-in-law of current Leaf assistant Rick Ley.
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Marc Habscheid, coach of the men's Olympic hockey team, denied rumours that the Leafs approached him and said he is committed to Hockey Canada.

There was also talk that the Leafs will approach Dale Hunter, who recently guided the London Knights to the Memorial Cup. However, it's believed that Hunter will end up in Washington coaching the Capitals.
Some names mentioned at the bottom as well: Pierre McGuire
( ), Calder Cup-winner George Burnett and NHL coach E.J. McGuire. No mention of Doug Gilmour.

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The Toronto Sun mentions Stan Butler as a potential candidate as well.
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A couple of articles out today re. the job.

Two big candidates (no surprise): Greg Gilbert and Peter DeBoer.

Some other names:

The Leafs may also speak with longtime NHL assistant coach Don Lever, who has spent the last two seasons with the St. Louis Blues — and who, coincidentally, is the brother-in-law of current Leaf assistant Rick Ley.
No. No. No.

We want to get rid of Ley, not bring in the bloody family.

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Calder Cup-winner George Burnett
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The Toronto Sun mentions Stan Butler as a potential candidate as well
Didn't he just sign a contract extension with his own team recently?


Are they saving John Anderson for the big club? Only pro coach never to have a losing season (and having a meaningful length of tenure) and can turn a team around over night.

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The Leafs may also speak with longtime NHL assistant coach Don Lever, who has spent the last two seasons with the St. Louis Blues — and who, coincidentally, is the brother-in-law of current Leaf assistant Rick Ley.
So a double sided nepotism?

JFj with the Blues connection.
Rick Ley with the familiar connection.

Throw the sink at Hunter.

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Are they saving John Anderson for the big club? Only pro coach never to have a losing season (and having a meaningful length of tenure) and can turn a team around over night.
The Hamburger Man?

I'd say that if Gilbert wants the job it's his.

If hiring Maguire gets him off tv then I'm all for that, easily the most annoying commentator going.

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For some reason I have doubts about Hunter. I think McGuire would actually be good, but I don't see him doing it. The article confirms that Butler has just signed a contract, but I like him. Deboer and Gilbert I don't have a strong feeling either way.

My Choice: Bingo Vodoun!

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Are they saving John Anderson for the big club? Only pro coach never to have a losing season (and having a meaningful length of tenure) and can turn a team around over night.
anderson isn't going to leave chicago for another ahl job. he has a great thing goin there.

pierre maguire? he would be nuts to leave his cushy tv job!

all the same names that were in the papers two years ago for this job. i guess nothing has changed.

it doesn't matter who they pick. the prospects will either develop or not develop on their own. and whoever is the coach will be hated by the hf faithful by november.

its supposed to be all about development, right? the leafs already have a development coach, paul dennis, so why not throw him behind the bench and let him roll the lines?

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anderson isn't going to leave chicago for another ahl job. he has a great thing goin there.

pierre maguire? he would be nuts to leave his cushy tv job!

all the same names that were in the papers two years ago for this job. i guess nothing has changed.

it doesn't matter who they pick. the prospects will either develop or not develop on their own. and whoever is the coach will be hated by the hf faithful by november.
unless it's Gilmour

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I'm sure either Gilbert or De Boer would be fine choices. No thank you on McGuire(vomits) and anybody related to Rick Ley.

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it doesn't matter who they pick. the prospects will either develop or not develop on their own. and whoever is the coach will be hated by the hf faithful by november.
We weren't close to Shedden like you. We only saw the man in the media, the one who seemed to like evaluating employees via the media, and it makes you wonder if it was because he liked being in the spotlight or if he was truly unaware that his approach wasn't well received in many places.

The media eats that stuff up, and then get in shots about how player X and coach Y are feuding via the media.

As I said, we weren't as close to him as you, so we perhaps we didn't get everything he said, just the stuff that devalued the assets, the negative stuff, which is exactly what the media likes to report.

Not sad to see Shedden move on.

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We weren't close to Shedden like you. We only saw the man in the media, the one who seemed to like evaluating employees via the media, and it makes you wonder if it was because he liked being in the spotlight or if he was truly unaware that his approach wasn't well received in many places.

The media eats that stuff up, and then get in shots about how player X and coach Y are feuding via the media.

As I said, we weren't as close to him as you, so we perhaps we didn't get everything he said, just the stuff that devalued the assets, the negative stuff, which is exactly what the media likes to report.

Not sad to see Shedden move on.
and what is your point?

whoever is hired this time, you won't be sad to see him move on in a couple of years either. has there ever been a leafs farm team coach who you liked? anyone's work who you admired?

devalued the assets. where do you get this stuff? yeah, i'm sure a lot of nhl gm's read the st.john's paper everyday and had their opinions changed based on something shedden said.

this might come as a shocker, but it really doesn't matter what the fans of hf think. we live in the fantasy world. the real hockey people are in the real world.

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devalued the assets. where do you get this stuff? yeah, i'm sure a lot of nhl gm's read the st.john's paper everyday and had their opinions changed based on something shedden said.
So if what he said had no bearing on anything, he did it just to get ink.

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A couple of articles out today re. the job.

Two big candidates (no surprise): Greg Gilbert and Peter DeBoer.

Some other names:



and



Some names mentioned at the bottom as well: Pierre McGuire
( ), Calder Cup-winner George Burnett and NHL coach E.J. McGuire. No mention of Doug Gilmour.

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The Toronto Sun mentions Stan Butler as a potential candidate as well.
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I like the idea of Dale Hunter. Exactly what we need to train our prospects.

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So if what he said had no bearing on anything, he did it just to get ink.
or, he probably did it to answer a question?

you really think what he says has bearing on anything? the farm coach doesn't have that much influence.

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anderson isn't going to leave chicago for another ahl job. he has a great thing goin there.
Unless he follows the $$$. But I'd much rather have him as an assistant with the big club anyway. He's overdue for a shot at the NHL level.

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Unless he follows the $$$.
that was the point. he has a good thing going, meaning he has a good team, and he makes more then he would in the ahl anywhere else, including toronto.

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Unless he follows the $$$. But I'd much rather have him as an assistant with the big club anyway. He's overdue for a shot at the NHL level.
Yup, or a promise that he takes over for Quinn once a spot opens up... speaking of which, as Im sure most know, Quinn inked or will ink a two year deal, so he's here for the time being..

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that was the point. he has a good thing going, meaning he has a good team, and he makes more then he would in the ahl anywhere else, including toronto.
Maybe Mark Hunter who was the best coach the Baby Leafs had might take the job now that the team in Ontario, doubt it though like Dale he's making too much money in London. Maybe hire the both of them and let them run the Leafs from top to bottom.

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My choices

1) Brent Sutter
2) Marc Habsheid
3) Greg Gilbert
4) Don Cherry

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No mention of Doug Gilmour
That was a bogus rumor. Gilmour shot it down the other day on Leafs Lunch.

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De Boer is interesting to me, if he can make the jump from junior to pro, meaning he treats the players like men, than i think he has the ability to be better than every single one of the canidates he's up against.

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Gilligan would be a fine choice..

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Well Gilbert continues to deny the rumours and says he hasnt been contacted by the Leafs.

A couple of AHL coaches were recently let go...Bruce Boudreau (Monarchs-LA affiliate) and Ryan McGill (Wolfpack-NYR affiliate)...wonder if either will be considered.

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shedden is gone to coach in finland. not bad for a fella who's supposed to hate europeans.

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Pierre McGuire
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