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06-25-2013, 05:06 PM
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Is Toews a lock for the HOF

I've been a huge fan of this guy ever since the 2010 olympics. He's now the captain of two cup winning teams and he's only 25 years old. I wouldn't be suprised if he wins one or two more either.
So is he a lock for the HOF?


Also, how elite company is that (captaining two cup winning teams by age 25)? How many others, if any, have done that?


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no, he is bad.

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If he gets hit by a bus tomorrow, I don't think he's in. If he follows a normal career progression, he should be in pretty easily. If all players follow normal career progressions, I can see all of Kane, Toews, Keith, and Hossa ending up as HHOFers (Hossa is already in I think).

Worst player to captain two teams to the Cup is probably Doug Young, who captained the 1936 and 1937 Red Wings, though he didn't play in the 1937 playoffs due to injuries.

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I don't see what being the captain of a stanley cup winning team has to do with being a hall of famer

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If he continues to put up 30 goals and ~70 points while providing Selke caliber two-way play, then yes, easily. Conn Smythe winner, Selke winner, two time cup winner as captain.

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I don't see what being the captain of a stanley cup winning team has to do with being a hall of famer
Winning the Cup twice, Conn Smythe, a few more Selke's, finishing his career with 125+ playoff points will probably make him a lock..but I agree with you, right now he's not a lock for the HHOF.

I bet he will be a lock before he is 30 though.

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06-25-2013, 05:16 PM
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The Selke and Olympic MVP made him a lock imo, sounds stupid but everything else was a team award.

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06-25-2013, 05:18 PM
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Conn Smythe, Selke and 2 Cups is a nice looking resume at 25. He'd have to drop off completely to miss out, IMO. Just keep on keepin' on and he'll probably make it, not counting whatever he adds in the future.

Triple gold club and best forward at the Olympics is pretty huge also.

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06-25-2013, 05:20 PM
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I think he's already earned the right to see his jersey in the rafters, but he's still a ways away from the HOF.

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06-25-2013, 05:22 PM
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Not a lock. If he retired tomorrow, he wouldn't get in as a player. I think he will be eventually, however.

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06-25-2013, 05:27 PM
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I think he needs to win one more cup or keep up a higher offensive pace for another decade.

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He's not a lock because if he retired today he wouldn't get in. If he keeps it up, definitely.

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If he continues on this trajectory, or better, yes.

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06-25-2013, 05:34 PM
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No, not there yet. But he is on the right track.

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06-25-2013, 05:38 PM
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I hope not

His career is definitely impressive though

The bar to get into the HHoF isn't as high as I feel it should be; Sundin is in it (I really like Sundin too)

That being said if he keeps it up he deserves to be in it

Even though I would love nothing more than for him to never win another NHL game

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Not yet. He'll will have to put up higher offensive numbers or continue with his outstanding two way play.

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With Olympic MVP and two Cups locked up, yeah I think he's in. Not to mention his WJC and WC play where he won gold.

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Nope.

You ppl are acting like he won the cup himself, while in reality, Crawford, Hossa, Sharp, Keith, Kane even Bickel played a much bigger role on this cup win than Toews did.

If you watched him in the playoffs this year, you would hardly say that Toews was the difference.

Last cup run was a different story though.

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06-25-2013, 05:46 PM
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I hope not

His career is definitely impressive though

The bar to get into the HHoF isn't as high as I feel it should be; Sundin is in it (I really like Sundin too)

That being said if he keeps it up he deserves to be in it

Even though I would love nothing more than for him to never win another NHL game
His career is about as impressive as a 25 year old NHL player's career can be.

He's a lock providing he continues to perform at a similar clip.

I agree with you that standards are too low to get into the HHOF though.

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06-25-2013, 05:48 PM
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It's hard to see him not going in someday, but not a lock as of today.

Not to be morbid, but I do think he would get in even today if he was tragically lost. However if he suffers a career ending injury, hard to say what they would make of Captain Serious on just this amount of a resume.

Since I think he will have a strong rest of his career and he has all the makings of a hall of famer, I want to say yes.

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06-25-2013, 05:55 PM
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If he keeps this up he will be. Dominant defensively and very nearly point per game. Olympics MVP. Second player after Gretzky to captain a team to two Cups before the age of 25. He'll win at least one more Selke and will probably win a Hart/Lindsay at some point. Has also won a Conn Smythe already. Could definitely win more Stanley Cups too.

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06-25-2013, 05:59 PM
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I think he stands a decent shot at it but he's not a lock yet...

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06-25-2013, 06:00 PM
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I think everyone on Chicago who won multiple cups is a sure in!!!

lol. but seriously. If he puts up more numbers and grasps a few more individual awards he just may be. Currently at the moment no.

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I don't see what being the captain of a stanley cup winning team has to do with being a hall of famer
This is just a guess, but I am thinking more Captains of Stanley Cup winners are in the HHOF than not.

On the surface it seems like it shouldn't, but you are usually a huge talent to Captain the team that wins the Cup. Toews certainly fits more with the historical group of guys that won as a Captain and made the HHOF. Especially the guys that started as young Captains.

Brind'Amour, Hatcher, Carbonneau and Anderychuk (who has an interesting case for being in) are the only guys I can think of in the last three decades that aren't in.

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