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Are Toews, Kane, Lucic, Bergeron now considered top playoff clutch players?

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06-26-2013, 11:53 PM
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If the Bruins had won this, Bergeron should have been strongly considered for the Conn Smythe. The real captain of the Bruins as far as i'm concerned.

Lucic has impressed me also. In the last game he was taking faceoffs and winning them, even though he's not a center. His desire to win was great.

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06-27-2013, 10:44 AM
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If we're mentioning Bruins in terms of playoff clutchness, we're mentioning David "Playoffs" Krejci

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06-27-2013, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MastuhNinks View Post
The Toews haters are hilarious. The guy put on one of the best playoff performances by a forward in a long time in 2010, and was a shut-down force this year shutting down whatever line he was matched up against.

Koivu had 0 points in 5 games against Toews.
Datsyuk had 2 points in 7 games against Toews.
Kopitar had 2 points in 5 games against Toews.
Bergeron had 4 points in 6 games against Toews.

And then there's his stellar resume playing for Team Canada.
Disagreeing with someone doesn't automatically make them a hater.

If the thread were about defensive forwards your argument would be more appropriate. But when you're talking clutch it's not usually about shutting down other teams forwards. It's about making big plays at key times.

It may just be a case of what have you done for me lately, and Toews finished strong with his game 6 performance.

But in a 7 game series against the Wings he had 1 goal (which was on the PP) and 3 assists (2 of which were on the PP). Game 7 he had zero points and was a -1, not to mention the bad penalties and losing his composure that series. That's not clutch.

Against he wild, 0 goals and 2 assists. LA, 0 goals 2 assists.

Yes he does things other than score and he certainly was much better against the Bruins. But when you look at his total playoffs, I don't think having a couple games in a 23 game run makes much of a case for him being clutch.

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06-27-2013, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by vippe View Post
Considering his performance was only better than Kanes.. it's more like one of the worst..(not that it was bad, it was really good) not one of the best.
Evander Kane wasn't even in the playoffs.

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06-27-2013, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by eva unit zero View Post
Toews was matched mostly against Zetterberg. Toews scored one point at ES, which was on a play that was offsides and with Zetterberg on the bench.

Zetterberg's primary job was to shut Toews down at ES. He did that to a degree of 100%. The Hawks beat the Wings due to Chicago getting a lot of luck in getting advantageous calls at the right times (such as the Bickell goal I referred to, or Seabrook's OT goal where he scooped up the puck which had just come free because Nyquist was hit from behind by Dave Bolland).

Chicago doesn't win the series (or the Cup, obviously) if things like those don't go their way; very rarely did the Wings have the same kind of luck.

And Toews' play in the Detroit series was a hindrance to the Hawks, not a help; his Zetterberg-caused meltdown in game 4 was a major reason they went down 3-1 rather than tying it 2-2. If he had managed to keep his cool (Zetterberg-style) the Hawks might have been the team winning those games instead of Detroit.


Malkin in 2009.
Zetterberg in 2008 and 2009.

Those were FAR better than Toews in 2010.

What exactly is a long time to you?

Ok dude, I hope someone makes a highlight video of all the uncalled obstruction penalties in that series, which was disgusting to watch as a fan of hockey in general.

Oh, and you had two chances to win game 7 and ya blew it. Go away.

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06-27-2013, 06:03 PM
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Toews more or less had a pretty terrible playoffs.. but he played easily his best hockey in the final 3 games and Chicago won the Cup so you can't really criticize.

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06-27-2013, 06:45 PM
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LOL @ Lucic being "clutch"

Among many things, he has only one GWG in his playoff career... 1 in 84 games...

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06-27-2013, 06:54 PM
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Kane is clutch, Lucic and Bergeron are just good

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