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06-30-2013, 12:45 AM
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Dallas is in the 1st stage of a rebuild so they need to stock up

1st + Prince + Puempel + DaCosta for Eriksson

Dallas gets 3 2nd line potential players and 1 with 1st line potential + a 1st
Ottawa get their winger and Dallas get on the express train in the rebuild
That is a fair value trade Ottawa overpays a little bit but you have to give to get

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06-30-2013, 12:46 AM
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Id trade Spezza before Zibanejad or Turris

Spezza for Eriksson both teams could add pieces here and there

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06-30-2013, 12:54 AM
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Id trade Spezza before Zibanejad or Turris

Spezza for Eriksson both teams could add pieces here and there
It would be a set back we want Eriksson for Spezza

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It would be a set back we want Eriksson for Spezza
Type of Centres that Eriksson played with in dallas and put up the numbers he did I can only imagine what he could do with Zibanejad or Turris

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Dallas is in the 1st stage of a rebuild so they need to stock up

1st + Prince + Puempel + DaCosta for Eriksson

Dallas gets 3 2nd line potential players and 1 with 1st line potential + a 1st
Ottawa get their winger and Dallas get on the express train in the rebuild
That is a fair value trade Ottawa overpays a little bit but you have to give to get
Ya signing Gonchar, going after Lecavalier and Weiss.. we sure are rebuilding!

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06-30-2013, 01:39 AM
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Dallas is in the 1st stage of a rebuild so they need to stock up

1st + Prince + Puempel + DaCosta for Eriksson

Dallas gets 3 2nd line potential players and 1 with 1st line potential + a 1st
Ottawa get their winger and Dallas get on the express train in the rebuild
That is a fair value trade Ottawa overpays a little bit but you have to give to get
This makes no sense for Dallas. We just signed Gonchar and are going heavily after Lecavalier and Weiss. That's an indication that we are competing for a playoff spot, and not aiming for a rebuild. In order to make the playoffs, we're going to need Eriksson more badly than Ottawa since our top 6 is depleted.

Nill wants his top 6 centerman badly. I'm almost certain he's going to ask for Turris+ or Zibenajad+, and rightfully so since your asking for Dallas' best player. If Dallas were trying to unload Eriksson, that would be different, but there is no indication that is Nill's intention.

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06-30-2013, 02:03 AM
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Type of Centres that Eriksson played with in dallas and put up the numbers he did I can only imagine what he could do with Zibanejad or Turris
Yeah, Ribeiro, Richards, Benn...none of those guys can hold a candle to the wizardry of Zibanejad or Turris.

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06-30-2013, 02:05 AM
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To no surprise Eriksson is being massively underrated in here

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Karlsson for Eriksson + Oleksiak + 1st 2014
This... Is interesting.

Obviously wouldn't happen, but I'd surprisingly be down for this. Even if it were Benn. Although we could massively regret it a few years from now.

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This... Is interesting.

Obviously wouldn't happen, but I'd surprisingly be down for this. Even if it were Benn. Although we could massively regret it a few years from now.
Sens decline that joke of a proposal anyways.

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06-30-2013, 03:29 AM
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Eriksson is underrated and Karlsson is overrated lol

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Eriksson is great, a 1st is always nice and Oleksiak is a nice prospect, but it would take a HELL of an overpayment to get Karlsson out of Ottawa.

That deal is solid, probably around his worth, but not enough to pry him out of here.

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Eriksson is great, a 1st is always nice and Oleksiak is a nice prospect, but it would take a HELL of an overpayment to get Karlsson out of Ottawa.

That deal is solid, probably around his worth, but not enough to pry him out of here.
I'm not saying you guys should take that by any means, but to call that a joke of a proposal is absurd.

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I'm not saying you guys should take that by any means, but to call that a joke of a proposal is absurd.

I realize full and well that Karlsson isn't on the block or anything but I would like an honest answer from some Sens fans about what they would hypothetically be looking for from the Stars for Karlsson. There's no chance in hell that Eriksson, Oleksiak, and a 1st is a joke of an offer.

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This is "four quarters for a dollar" logic. The problem being, of course, that you can only have 6 players on the ice at any moment.

This deal would be fantastic for the Sens, and no GM worth his salt would agree to it.

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I realize full and well that Karlsson isn't on the block or anything but I would like an honest answer from some Sens fans about what they would hypothetically be looking for from the Stars for Karlsson. There's no chance in hell that Eriksson, Oleksiak, and a 1st is a joke of an offer.
Eriksson + Benn for Karlsson its the only trade that makes trading Karlsson worth it, that being said you're not going to trade your 2 best players for him witch is easily understandable

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Zibanejad+17th for Eriksson.
A lot of trade talk last night and this morning out of Dallas on trading Louie; but not to Ottawa.

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06-30-2013, 08:23 AM
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Zibanejad+17th for Eriksson.
This would be a good starting point ,but we need to add a decent roster player still to try and make this work from Dallas,s point of view ,he is their best player they wont trade him for just prospects

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06-30-2013, 09:19 AM
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It would be a set back we want Eriksson for Spezza
Eriksson is not being moved for someone who has knee issues and a back problem. Nice try though

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This thread is full of ridiculousness.

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06-30-2013, 09:26 AM
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Eriksson is not being moved for someone who has knee issues and a back problem. Nice try though
Spezza is not being moved for someone who is producing at a 50 point pace. Nice try though

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Eriksson is great, a 1st is always nice and Oleksiak is a nice prospect, but it would take a HELL of an overpayment to get Karlsson out of Ottawa.

That deal is solid, probably around his worth, but not enough to pry him out of here.
You're just saying this to be nice and to stay on Dallas fans' good side

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I'm not saying you guys should take that by any means, but to call that a joke of a proposal is absurd.
Be honest dude, it's a joke of a proposal. It's a joke of a proposal for Doughty, Pietrangelo, OEL and for Karlsson.


Karlsson is the best defenseman in the league. He just turned 23 and is on a sweet heart long term contract. Eriksson however got outplayed this season by Benn, Whitney, Jagr and a case could be made for Derek Roy. And his team was still bad. Eriksson is not an elite forward, he's a complimentary piece.

Karlsson will be scoring 20 more points a season than Eriksson from now on. It's a joke of a proposal.

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06-30-2013, 09:38 AM
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This thread is ridiculous.

You guys realize that Loui Eriksson had the same number of points last year as Turris, right? and 9 more points in 6 more games than Zibanejad?

This isn't a shot at Loui Eriksson either, he's a good player. He's not worth 1/2 our team though.

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Karlsson is the best defenseman in the league. He just turned 23 and is on a sweet heart long term contract. Eriksson however got outplayed this season by Benn, Whitney, Jagr and a case could be made for Derek Roy. And his team was still bad. Eriksson is not an elite forward, he's a complimentary piece.

Karlsson will be scoring 20 more points a season than Eriksson from now on. It's a joke of a proposal.
I'm super-jealous of Canadian fans who have the time to not only watch their own teams, but also watch enough Sunbelt hockey to understand DAL/PHX/CAR/FLA better than their own fans. Doesn't anybody have to work in Canada?

Karlsson is among the best defensemen in the league.
Loui Eriksson's game is nothing like Jaromir Jagr's, so I guess someone could say Guy Lafleur outplayed Bob Gainey, but I dunno ...
Karlsson will be 20 points better than Eriksson? I'll write that one down for reference, but I don't know what your point is.
A lot of bad proposals in this thread, the only ones that are even close were the Karlsson/Eriksson ones (adv DAL) and the Eriksson/Z + 17 (adv OTT).

No real desire to do any of this as a Dallas fan; Joe Nieuwendyk stockpiled enough young blue line pieces over the last 4 years that moving Eriksson in a deal for Karlsson seems really unnecessary.

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