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Habs draft Mike McCarron with the 25th overall pick (signs ELC, will play in OHL)

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07-01-2013, 01:03 AM
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I think you'll see more guys like this drafted early from now on. Everyone said the Habs needed size up front, well you can't trade for guys who have it and can play, so I think you'll see more 2nd, 3rd and 4th line guys drafted earlier now.

I tend to like it. Even if he turns out to be a role player and not a top 6 forward. Those types of players are key and hard to find. Smart gamble given the talent we have coming up.

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so this kid can likely be 6'6 250 lbs in a few years...

Holy mother ****in eh.

Is there a way to filter on nhl.com forwards of that size?

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Was dreaming of either Samuel Morin (damn Flyers) or Anthony Mantha (Wings-watch this pick and mark my words)...MB could have probably picked him lower but he chose to address our most pressing need versus picking the BPA. Can't blame him after being bounced around in the playoffs.

On the plus side Fucale was a bargain at 36 so things kind of balance out.

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Do you guys see PK family and PK sitting behind Mccaron and not even getting up to congratulate him?
Just looked on RDS and I could not see anything like Subban family.
Do you have any video to show this?

I really looked but did not see it.
We can clearly see, on RDS, a lot of people around McCarron but nothing like the Subban family.

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I really didn't find it smart of the kid when he was shocked by being selected in the 1st round.

It's nice to be humble but that's borderline insecure. He's sitting their with the GM of the Montreal ****ing Canadiens and he's on camera in front of the world telling everyone he doesn't rank himself as high as he was selected.

Not much of a first impression.

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07-01-2013, 01:28 AM
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Was dreaming of either Samuel Morin (damn Flyers) or Anthony Mantha (Wings-watch this pick and mark my words)...MB could have probably picked him lower but he chose to address our most pressing need versus picking the BPA. Can't blame him after being bounced around in the playoffs.

On the plus side Fucale was a bargain at 36 so things kind of balance out.
I'm catching up on everything right now, so I may be wrong, but maybe last year's draft was all about BPA and now they are patching up the framework with a support cast. Get the talent first, then surround it with character and grit. Seems to me there is a very distinct drafting strategy between last year and this one. Almost like they went all in for talent last year and tried to get a support crew for it this year.

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What I love about him is he doesn't just go to the net. He is always trying to block the goalies view...basically forcing a goalie to look between his legs or around them.

A lot of players go around the net but don't actually screen the goalie...this guy screens the goalie and then some.

He could easily be a big third liner who plays #1 PP and maybe is a glue guy on the 2nd line as a puck protector and net presence.
thats exactly what id want from him, and i hope he can deliver it

and i agree completely on the screening...some players just think they can park in front of the net / slot and just not move and think there doing the job...but no, you can see mccarron FOLLOWING the goalie around the crease, making sure he cant see the puck at all, even when the puck was at the red/goal line and a player has an almost impossible shot to make to the net and he was STILL screening lol

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Just looked on RDS and I could not see anything like Subban family.
Do you have any video to show this?

I really looked but did not see it.
We can clearly see, on RDS, a lot of people around McCarron but nothing like the Subban family.
They were behind them.



However, I still don't agree with his point though since they were clapping and you let those players have their moment with their family. The two families don't have a relationship or anything.

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thats exactly what id want from him, and i hope he can deliver it

and i agree completely on the screening...some players just think they can park in front of the net / slot and just not move and think there doing the job...but no, you can see mccarron FOLLOWING the goalie around the crease, making sure he cant see the puck at all, even when the puck was at the red/goal line and a player has an almost impossible shot to make to the net and he was STILL screening lol
And the guys who are usually most effective at screening like that are no bigger than 6'1 or 6'2...this guy is 6'5!!

Based on his interview with the reporters he knows he needs to use that size and compares himself to Lucic and tries to model his game after him.

London is obviously a great fit but the college he is committed to has Andy Murray as its coach so either way, I think he will be alright. I do prefer the Hunter's though.

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Really hope he goes to London next year; better competition for him and the longer schedule to adjust to. Developed properly and don't rush him just because of his size and he could become a good complimentary top 6 player for our talented young guys. High hopes for this one but needs time.

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They were behind them. However, I still don't agree with his point though since they were clapping and you let those players have their moment with their family. The two families don't have a relationship or anything.
I feel the same way. That's a family and friends moment. Lotsa time for him to meet and be welcomed by PK.

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And the guys who are usually most effective at screening like that are no bigger than 6'1 or 6'2...this guy is 6'5!!

Based on his interview with the reporters he knows he needs to use that size and compares himself to Lucic and tries to model his game after him.

London is obviously a great fit but the college he is committed to has Andy Murray as its coach so either way, I think he will be alright. I do prefer the Hunter's though.
His job won't be screening. Well maybe to a degree, but if you ask me it'll be to hold onto the puck along the boards. He's the type of guy who helps you keep puck possession in the offensive zone with his size. I see really good 3rd liner in him myself. In a perfect world a specialist at it. And then depending on his speed and ability to read plays he could also be a guy that punishes defensemen in deep and thus creates turnovers. A role player.

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I really didn't find it smart of the kid when he was shocked by being selected in the 1st round.

It's nice to be humble but that's borderline insecure. He's sitting their with the GM of the Montreal ****ing Canadiens and he's on camera in front of the world telling everyone he doesn't rank himself as high as he was selected.

Not much of a first impression.
I think it shows a lot of humility, to know that you're not the **** and think you're a really good player. It's all about character, and just because the kid said "Oh wow im surprised I got picked that high" is not because he thinks he's a lower quality player, but that maybe he thought other guys might go before him because of the type of player he is and the type of skillset he knows he has vs. other players.

It wasn't insecure, it was more like a "WTF" and shocked moment more than anything. Not insecure.

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Anyone disliking this pick, I dare you, infact DOUBLE DARE you to tell me that Bryan Bickell wasn't a HUGE part of Chicago's success in the playoffs. They traded away 2 players just to make room for him ...

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His job won't be screening. Well maybe to a degree, but if you ask me it'll be to hold onto the puck along the boards. He's the type of guy who helps you keep puck possession in the offensive zone with his size. I see really good 3rd liner in him myself. In a perfect world a specialist at it. And then depending on his speed and ability to read plays he could also be a guy that punishes defensemen in deep and thus creates turnovers. A role player.
I think it can be both, especially on the PP. Holds that puck until he can get it back to the point and then crash the net.

Imagine PK's numbers with someone who consistently screens the goaltender..

If he develops well, there's no reason you can't use him in multiple facets. He obviously has a lot of strength but with him being taller than almost every goalie in the league certainly would help a lot in front of the net.

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In addition, he also mentioned in his interview with reporters that his skating improved drastically throughout the year.

Perhaps that's why he had such an offensive jump in the second half of the year? Just a thought.

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His quote: "Certain players get you into the playoffs, other players get you through the playoffs." I can't say I disagree with him.
Great line from Bergevin!!

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Anyone disliking this pick, I dare you, infact DOUBLE DARE you to tell me that Bryan Bickell wasn't a HUGE part of Chicago's success in the playoffs. They traded away 2 players just to make room for him ...
They also waited five years for him to become the player he was this year and, oh yeah, he was playing with Johnny T.

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23 points in his last 27 games...a powerful shot...goes to the net all the time. .I've seen him play live..the kids got great potential.
Ok when drafting in the first round you look for guys that are 4/5 rankings not 3/5 and 2/5 This kid has a 2/5 rating on his shot and 3/5 on IQ etc not a first round pick that is something you find later second round higher 3rd round. Timmins amd MB picking up where PG left off.

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Ok when drafting in the first round you look for guys that are 4/5 rankings not 3/5 and 2/5 This kid has a 2/5 rating on his shot and 3/5 on IQ etc not a first round pick that is something you find later second round higher 3rd round. Timmins amd MB picking up where PG left off.
Oh god shut up. How 'bout you don't make or judge draft picks based on TSN's rankings thereof?

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Ok when drafting in the first round you look for guys that are 4/5 rankings not 3/5 and 2/5 This kid has a 2/5 rating on his shot and 3/5 on IQ etc not a first round pick that is something you find later second round higher 3rd round. Timmins amd MB picking up where PG left off.
2/5 for his shot is just wrong...lol. I know its what TSN gave it..but it's much better than that. It's a pretty hard shot and he gets it off with a rather quick release. Grant has seen him more though so maybe he can chime in on it.

His skating may be a 3/5 as well but for his size its a 4/5 if anything. Plus those rankings don't factor size or physical play.

Sounds like you are hating based off a little rankings game that doesn't factor in the two biggest assets in MM's game..maybe watch him play before coming to such conclusions.

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Oh god shut up. How 'bout you don't make or judge draft picks based on TSN's rankings thereof?
How bout our HF fan base stops fawning over and OVER ranking our prospects what a novel idea that would be those saying this kid could breat the top 6 seriously. Just like the love for Louis LeBlanc who I never agreed with and it looks like he is no longer in our plans when thoe below him are now passing him on the depth charts. How bout we stop over valueing these guys.

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Ok when drafting in the first round you look for guys that are 4/5 rankings not 3/5 and 2/5 This kid has a 2/5 rating on his shot and 3/5 on IQ etc not a first round pick that is something you find later second round higher 3rd round. Timmins amd MB picking up where PG left off.
There's a reason why you're only a poster here on hfboards!

You cant possibly think Timmins/MB look at TSN's rankings and go from there. They actually have their own evaluations of players.

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