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Habs draft Mike McCarron with the 25th overall pick (signs ELC, will play in OHL)

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07-03-2013, 06:57 PM
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kid said in his interview that he was 6'5 (1/2) and 235 lbs

235 lbs :megusta:

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That much bulk at his age is pretty much uncharted territory too, the infamous Hugh Jessiman for instance was a good 20 lbs lighter when drafted.

Assuming he can skate faster than a tank, it's probably good for his balance.

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kid said in his interview that he was 6'5 (1/2) and 235 lbs

235 lbs :megusta:
When I saw the picture of him at camp today, he looked so skinny and I doubted the weight claims we have been hearing. But the more I think about it, he's so tall and his legs look very thick from what we've seen on the ice. I can't wait to see what he looks like when he fills out. It will probably not be much more than he weighs now, but the muscle/fat ratio, and the conditioning he will gain could make him an absolute monster.

My Wild Guess: 6ft6.5, 243 Lbs.

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07-03-2013, 07:10 PM
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Put him on the Byfuglien diet.

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Put him on the Byfuglien diet.
I actually could see him as a Buff type player size wise. He obviously is naturally thinner, but it seems like he has so much natural mass for a guy his height (as opposed to someone like Tinordi, who still needs to fill out). I hope he can perfect the Holmstrom/Big Buff art of screening. He'll be a hard guy to move.

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Count me in as a fan of the guy! Its nice to hear the Habs a such interest in him, it means he was really one of their guys.

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I actually could see him as a Buff type player size wise. He obviously is naturally thinner, but it seems like he has so much natural mass for a guy his height (as opposed to someone like Tinordi, who still needs to fill out). I hope he can perfect the Holmstrom/Big Buff art of screening. He'll be a hard guy to move.
I can definitely see him being a Byfuglien clone (but strictly forward of course). Much more so than a Lucic clone.

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Before draft had 800 Twitter followers.
After draft by today he has 8400 followers.

Come on Hab fans you are slacking he should be around 30,000 by now

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07-03-2013, 09:39 PM
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What would you guys think about Mammoth Mike pulling a Louis Leblanc : 1 year in college where he could spend more time in the gym and have time to work on his on-ice abilities, skating etc... Then bolt to London in 2014-2015 so he can play a bunch of games, grow accustomed to a more physical style, fight...

Better of both worlds ?

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07-03-2013, 09:50 PM
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Pulling a "Louis Leblanc" might not be a good idea. He must become accustomed to a professional schedule and he doesn't need to lose time with a year in college and then coming here in the CHL...

It doesn't help a kid in his development.

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07-04-2013, 05:15 PM
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Spotted: Timmins (with a Habs t-shirt on) and Andy Murray chatting at the development camp and doing so right near where the fans sit.

No doubt McCarron related.

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I don't see how he doesn't go to London. It's a no brainer

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What would you guys think about Mammoth Mike pulling a Louis Leblanc : 1 year in college where he could spend more time in the gym and have time to work on his on-ice abilities, skating etc... Then bolt to London in 2014-2015 so he can play a bunch of games, grow accustomed to a more physical style, fight...

Better of both worlds ?
Crushing 2nd tier NHL prospects, who are under 6 feet tall at 170-190lbs, while skating to just stand in front of the net does not sound good. I would much rather have him on a quasi-nhl schedule with the Hunters, while playing against 1st teir prospects with size. Komisarek anyone? Hope the kid understands this.

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"The Habs newcomer hopes to learn some French, saying brightly that his Quebec-born grandmother “knows some words, obviously all the bad words, and I’m sure she’ll teach them to me."

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Crushing 2nd tier NHL prospects, who are under 6 feet tall at 170-190lbs, while skating to just stand in front of the net does not sound good. I would much rather have him on a quasi-nhl schedule with the Hunters, while playing against 1st teir prospects with size. Komisarek anyone? Hope the kid understands this.
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Crushing 2nd tier NHL prospects, who are under 6 feet tall at 170-190lbs, while skating to just stand in front of the net does not sound good. I would much rather have him on a quasi-nhl schedule with the Hunters, while playing against 1st teir prospects with size. Komisarek anyone? Hope the kid understands this.
Komisarek was actually pretty good before the Lucic incident, so that argument is complete ********. Actually your whole argument is ********. I'm confident NCAA teams (2nd tier prospects) would beat CHL teams (1st tier prospects) if they were to face each other.

You're right about the schedule, though.

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I don't see how he doesn't go to London. It's a no brainer
Murray seems to be a pretty good salesman. Just the fact taht he's here says A WHOLE LOT. And no..he's not here for Cichy....

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Komisarek was actually pretty good before the Lucic incident, so that argument is complete ********. Actually your whole argument is ********. I'm confident NCAA teams (2nd tier prospects) would beat CHL teams (1st tier prospects) if they were to face each other.

You're right about the schedule, though.
Glad I was right about something.

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He's built like Kozlov

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What would you guys think about Mammoth Mike pulling a Louis Leblanc : 1 year in college where he could spend more time in the gym and have time to work on his on-ice abilities, skating etc... Then bolt to London in 2014-2015 so he can play a bunch of games, grow accustomed to a more physical style, fight...

Better of both worlds ?
I can see him pulling more of a max pacioretty.

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Komisarek was actually pretty good before the Lucic incident, so that argument is complete ********. Actually your whole argument is ********. I'm confident NCAA teams (2nd tier prospects) would beat CHL teams (1st tier prospects) if they were to face each other.

You're right about the schedule, though.
Well if you go by that logic, then you could argue that learning how to fight properly would have helped Komisarek face Lucic and therefore would have helped avoid the incident that led to his decline. Hence the CHL route for McCarron would be better for him in that regard also.

From my perspective, the NCAA route teaches players how to be a jack of all trades/master of none. That's not to say its the wrong route, but there's a tendency for players coming out of the NCAA to have a nice balance of skills, but to lack that "wow" factor. Essentially the NCAA churns out highly polished products.

The CHL however, puts players in a bunch more game situations and mimes the rigors of an nhl schedule and the realities of pro hockey. I see guys coming out of the CHL who may not have the sheen of the NCAA, but have great instincts and situational awareness. Basically, the CHL (again, in my mind) churns out hockey players.

Now I concede that what i just typed makes it seem like i favor the CHL but that really isn't the case. I just have an inkling that, in this case, we have a 6"10 340lb linebacker of a prospect (height and weight taken from hockeybs.com) who seems to be good at crowding the crease, mucking it up in the corners, and standing up for teammates. While it would obviously be wonderful if he could develop into this five tool specimen that can skate, pass, deke, shoot, hit, fight, etc. maybe focusing on the 3 or 4 things he's already very good at isn't necessarily a bad thing?

If he chooses to go to central michigan i would not be upset and it might end up being very good for his development in the long run. Maybe im selling the development process of the NCAA short. I just think that the way that McCarron is going to make an impact in the NHL is by focusing on developing the tools he has and learning how to implement them in game situations, and I think the CHL is the best route to do that.

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Viktor I presume?

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Well if you go by that logic, then you could argue that learning how to fight properly would have helped Komisarek face Lucic and therefore would have helped avoid the incident that led to his decline. Hence the CHL route for McCarron would be better for him in that regard also.

From my perspective, the NCAA route teaches players how to be a jack of all trades/master of none. That's not to say its the wrong route, but there's a tendency for players coming out of the NCAA to have a nice balance of skills, but to lack that "wow" factor. Essentially the NCAA churns out highly polished products.

The CHL however, puts players in a bunch more game situations and mimes the rigors of an nhl schedule and the realities of pro hockey. I see guys coming out of the CHL who may not have the sheen of the NCAA, but have great instincts and situational awareness. Basically, the CHL (again, in my mind) churns out hockey players.

Now I concede that what i just typed makes it seem like i favor the CHL but that really isn't the case. I just have an inkling that, in this case, we have a 6"10 340lb linebacker of a prospect (height and weight taken from hockeybs.com) who seems to be good at crowding the crease, mucking it up in the corners, and standing up for teammates. While it would obviously be wonderful if he could develop into this five tool specimen that can skate, pass, deke, shoot, hit, fight, etc. maybe focusing on the 3 or 4 things he's already very good at isn't necessarily a bad thing?

If he chooses to go to central michigan i would not be upset and it might end up being very good for his development in the long run. Maybe im selling the development process of the NCAA short. I just think that the way that McCarron is going to make an impact in the NHL is by focusing on developing the tools he has and learning how to implement them in game situations, and I think the CHL is the best route to do that.
Thank you! Have been drinking and dared not try a lucid response THIS!!!

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I he ok after being hit in the face today?!?

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Viktor I presume?
Vladimir.

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