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Robert Hagg made his AHL debut March 29 [AAV is $925k, 3-yr ELC, per Tim P.]

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07-01-2013, 11:49 AM
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The foreign announcers (Swedish?) were pronouncing it Haygue.

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Well on Swedish Elite Prospects it has his name as Hägg

Don't the 2 dots above an a give it an "ah" sound when pronounced?
So, no one knows?

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Hockey Prospect Black Book write-up (ranked 31):

"Robert has shown us a wide array of play in our viewings. He has looking both outstanding and invisible in different games, and sometimes in the same game. He has has excellent size but generally only seems to use it when he feels it’s absolutely necessary. In the defensive zone he shows good positioning and knowledge of the play going on around him, but can get a little lazy and look uninterested resulting in unnecessary turnovers in his own end. He is capable of passing the puck from long distances but also effectively in the offensive zone. When he loses his focus, that is generally where the puck playing mistakes come. One of Robert’s strongest assets is his shot. He has a big blast he can unload from the point and usually chooses good shooting options. He gets so much power behind it, when it doesn't beat the goaltender generally it results in a nice big rebound for his forwards to jump on. Hagg is a player who we've felt all season long possesses the tools to be a great defenseman but lacks the mindset to be a great defenseman. Robert has the upside to be one of the best defensemen in the entire 2013
NHL Entry Draft. However his downside is just as drastic in the opposite direction. He will be a bit of a risky pick for this draft, but one that could potentially pay off big time."

Quotable: "This is a player that extends scouting meetings. I think he has top 10 ability but he only occasionally flashed it for me. I'd see one shift and love what I saw and then on the next shift he would leave me wondering what he was doing. His compete level was on and off. This was another player I had plenty of conversations about with NHL scouts. It seemed like most teams staffs had a wide range of opinions. Everywhere from top 10 to late 30's" -Mark Edwards

Quotable: "Early in the season my reports were negative, late in the year they were all positive." -NHL scout

Quotable: "At the Hlinka he played like he had a piano on his back. He got much better in my viewings later on this season. I really like him." -NHL scout
I love that description. I am going to use that all the time.

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Basically like "egg" but with an "H" in front of it.

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07-01-2013, 11:56 AM
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Basically like "egg" but with an "H" in front of it.
I approve this.

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Swedish poster approved already, but when I took German in highschool the umlaut usually meant add an e after the letter... (seems to be the same reasoning in Swedish?)

Hagg becomes Haegg (Pronounced Hayg)?

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Swedish poster approved already, but when I took German in highschool the umlaut usually meant add an e after the letter... (seems to be the same reasoning in Swedish?)

Hagg becomes Haegg (Pronounced Hayg)?
I took German as well. "Haeg." or "Haygue."

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For those in doubt of pronunciation in regards to what people are writing...

In my (limited) understanding of Swedish (more Scanian tbh!) an a with umlaut can be pronounced in two ways, ae and e, depending on the word, place in word, and region, this is how Hägg is said, by a guy from the same place as Robert:

http://www.forvo.com/word/h%C3%A4gg/

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I heard it was pronounced "HEEY U GAIIIIIIIZ."

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He's saying his own namn at the beginning of this video:



He will probably don't even care as long as you don't say "Haag", (H)egg is still the best example I can think of.

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I don't care how you pronounce his name, just as long as it is spelled right when it's engraved on the Cup.

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I don't care how you pronounce his name, just as long as it is spelled right when it's engraved on the Cup.
If it's as a member of the Flyers they can spell it Heeg for all I care.

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He's saying his own namn at the beginning of this video:



He will probably don't even care as long as you don't say "Haag", (H)egg is still the best example I can think of.
Basically, pronounce it the same way you pronounce this guy's last name:



Or like the city in he Netherlands:

https://maps.google.com/maps?safe=of...&ved=0CKMBELYD

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You think we'll see a Niklas Grossmann type of situation where he throws an extra "G" on the end when he gets to the Flyers? "Starting at left defense for the Philadelphia Flyers, number 31, Robert Haggg!"

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A real deal steal! Huge potentional, came in as a underage(injury replacer) at the Wjc, played great with huge confident and got a lot of toi.

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A real deal steal! Huge potentional, came in as a underage(injury replacer) at the Wjc, played great with huge confident and got a lot of toi.
Hope you are right. I have to admit I was hoping for either Heatherington or Santini at 41. Always wonder about guys who do not give 100% all the time, but I am pulling for him.

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Hope you are right. I have to admit I was hoping for either Heatherington or Santini at 41. Always wonder about guys who do not give 100% all the time, but I am pulling for him.
With the morin pick too many defensive d-man of we picked those two. Hagg was bpa and a puckmoving defender. Win-win if i do say so. (Well hes more of a two-way puckmover which is nice. Not pure offense)

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You guys could have the potential steal of the draft right here. I am a huge Hagg fan and I paid close attention to him all year.

There are the Zadarov's and Morin's but those guys are more excellent at particular things and questionable for better transition in skills to pro game but I see Hagg as potentially being the second best defender in this draft if all goes well.

He is one of the best skaters in the draft and has amazing all-around ability. The only reason he made it to second round and not picked mid-first was questionable defensive play in u-18's.

He has great shot, high IQ, amazing skating, great defensive awareness. Basically a great all-around D.

My take on this guy may be very optimistic but then again I was yelling when he didn't make WJC team and then he got in cause of injuries and ended up shocking everyone with a brilliant performance, especially shutting down Yakupov and I believe he was youngest Swede on the team after De La Rose.

Hope he works out for you Philly!

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Hagg has already become my favorite flyers prospect. I remember watching the WJC tournament and they said the Flyers asked Reneberg about Hagg because they were interested. I don't follow prospects that closely but decided to watch Swedens games more closely keeping an eye on him.

Needless to say I was very impressed. He seems to have a great hockey IQ and just has a solid all around game. He has size but can still skate and be mobile, he can pass, shoot and hit when he needs to, but he seems to keep defense first. I loved watching him take his man and you can see in that video from WJC that he is constantly tracking his target on the ice and he plays the body.

I know there are knocks against him, but they all seem like the type of thing that a player can grow out of. The fact that he himself said he needed to be more consistent I think speaks volumes for his development. A few years down the road I think we will be seeing this guy in orange and black. I am more excited for his defensive game, but it appears he has plenty of offensive potential as well, his slapshot windup is awesome and he has a quick release which is exciting to see.

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I know it's very hard to project, but does anyone see his celing as a top pair defender? Or do you think it's more like a top 4 dman?

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He's saying his own namn at the beginning of this video:



He will probably don't even care as long as you don't say "Haag", (H)egg is still the best example I can think of.
Horse's mouth wins!

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You guys could have the potential steal of the draft right here. I am a huge Hagg fan and I paid close attention to him all year.

There are the Zadarov's and Morin's but those guys are more excellent at particular things and questionable for better transition in skills to pro game but I see Hagg as potentially being the second best defender in this draft if all goes well.

He is one of the best skaters in the draft and has amazing all-around ability. The only reason he made it to second round and not picked mid-first was questionable defensive play in u-18's.

He has great shot, high IQ, amazing skating, great defensive awareness. Basically a great all-around D.

My take on this guy may be very optimistic but then again I was yelling when he didn't make WJC team and then he got in cause of injuries and ended up shocking everyone with a brilliant performance, especially shutting down Yakupov and I believe he was youngest Swede on the team after De La Rose.

Hope he works out for you Philly!
Tack.

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I know it's very hard to project, but does anyone see his celing as a top pair defender? Or do you think it's more like a top 4 dman?
Probably top 4 but you never know.

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I know it's very hard to project, but does anyone see his celing as a top pair defender? Or do you think it's more like a top 4 dman?
Ceiling? Number 1 D. A Rafalski type player. What he is more safer to project as? Top 4.

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Bill Meltzer compared him to Kim Johnsson which obviously intrigues me.

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Bill Meltzer compared him to Kim Johnsson which obviously intrigues me.
Maybe soon a GRH name change?

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