Mark Messier 227 (29-24-10)
Ray Bourque 225 (29-26-2)
Brett Hull 80 (4-9-33)
Wayne Greztky 16 (1-2-5)
Pat LaFontaine 8 (0-1-5)
Patrick Roy 8 (0-1-5)
Steve Yzerman 3 (0-0-3)
89/90 Norris
Ray Bourque 315 (63-0-0)
Al MacInnis 127 (0-38-13)
Doug Wilson 40 (0-7-19)
Paul Coffey 33 (0-7-12)
Phil Housley 32 (0-7-11)
Al Iafrate 8 (0-2-2)
Mike Ramsey 4 (0-1-1)
Chris Chelios 3 (0-1-0)
Paul Cavallini 2 (0-0-2)
Craig Ludwig 1 (0-0-1)
Brian Leetch 1 (0-0-1)
Jamie Macoun 1 (0-0-1)
89/90 Vezina
Patrick Roy 91 (15-5-1)
Daren Puppa 59 (3-13-5)
Andy Moog 26 (2-2-10)
Rejean Lemelin 7 (1-0-1)
Mike Liut 4 (0-1-1)
Jon Casey 2 (0-0-2)
Mike Richter 1 (0-0-1)
89/90 Selke
Rick Meagher 105 (16-7-4)
Guy Carbonneau 100 (9-14-13)
Esa Tikkanen 81 (10-8-7)
Craig MacTavish 38 (5-4-1)
Ron Francis 32 (4-2-6)
Jan Erixon 26 (4-1-3)
Dave Mcllwain 23 (3-2-2)
Greg Gilbert 17 (2-2-1)
Doug Gilmour 15 (1-3-1)
Patrik Sundstrom 15 (1-3-1)
Mike McPhee 14 (0-4-2)
Christian Ruuttu 12 (1-2-1)
Kelly Miller 10 (1-1-2)
Mark Messier 8 (1-1-0)
Thomas Steen 8 (1-1-0)
Kelly Kisio 5 (1-0-0)
Troy Murray 5 (1-0-0)
Russ Courtnall 5 (1-0-0)
Dave Snuggerud 5 (1-0-0)
Dale Hunter 5 (0-1-2)
Joel Otto 4 (0-1-1)
Steve Kasper 4 (0-1-1)
Shawn Burr 4 (0-1-1)
Dave Gagner 4 (0-1-1)
Dave Poulin 4 (0-1-1)
Cam Neely 3 (0-1-0)
Wayne Greztky 3 (0-1-0)
Brian Skrudland 3 (0-1-0)
Stewart Gavin 1 (0-0-1)
Hubie McDonough 1 (0-0-1)
Colin Patterson 1 (0-0-1)
John Carter 1 (0-0-1)
Keith Acton 1 (0-0-1)
Randy Burridge 1 (0-0-1)
Brent Sutter 1 (0-0-1)
Kevin Dineen 1 (0-0-1)
Dirk Graham 1 (0-0-1)
89/90 Byng
Brett Hull 238 (42-9-1)
Wayne Gretzky 79 (9-9-7)
Pat LaFontaine 72 (5-12-11)
Pierre Turgeon 61 (0-16-3)
Joe Sakic 26 (2-3-7)
Craig Janney 16 (2-2-0)
Joe Mullen 10 (0-3-1)
Adam Oates 10 (0-2-4)
Vince Damphousse 9 (1-1-1)
Joe Nieuwendyk 7 (0-2-1)
Pelle Eklund 6 (1-0-1)
Steve Larmer 6 (1-0-1)
Doug Wilson 5 (0-1-2)
Steve Yzerman 4 (0-1-1)
Bernie Nicholls 3 (0-1-0)
Mike Ridley 3 (0-1-0)
Jari Kurri 2 (0-0-2)
Bernie Federko 1 (0-0-1)
Ron Francis 1 (0-0-1)
Phil Housley 1 (0-0-1)
Guy Lafleur 1 (0-0-1)
Greg Paslawski 1 (0-0-1)
Mats Naslund 1 (0-0-1)
Thomas Steen 1 (0-0-1)
Brian Leetch 1 (0-0-1)
Luc Robitaille 1 (0-0-1)
Peter Stastny 1 (0-0-1)
89/90 Adams
Bob Murdoch 128 (16-14-6)
Mike Milbury 123 (15-14-6)
Roger Neilson 28 (4-1-5)
Rick Dudley 28 (1-5-8)
Brian Sutter 25 (2-3-6)
Mike Keenan 22 (2-3-3)
Doug Carpenter 15 (2-0-5)
Pat Burns 6 (0-1-3)
John Cunniff 6 (0-2-0)
Pierre Page 1 (0-0-1)
89/90 Calder
Sergei Makarov 204 (37-5-4)
Mike Modano 120 (12-17-9)
Jeremy Roenick 71 (7-9-9)
Rod Brind’Amour 58 (3-12-7)
Mark Recchi 53 (2-11-10)
Darren Turcotte 47 (2-8-13)
Bob Essensa 11 (0-1-8)
Vyacheslav Fetisov 1 (0-0-1)
Paul Ranheim 1 (0-0-1)
Dave Snuggerud 1 (0-0-1)
89/90 All Stars
Goal
Patrick Roy 304 (59-3-0)
Daren Puppa 136 (1-36-23)
Andy Moog 68 (1-12-27)
Mike Liut 28 (1-7-2)
Jon Casey 11 (0-2-5)
Rejean Lemelin 10 (1-1-2)
Bill Ranford 6 (0-1-3)
Mike Vernon 3 (0-1-0)
Bob Essensa 1 (0-0-1)
Defense
Ray Bourque 315 (62-1-0-0-0-0)
Al MacInnis 257 (0-37-19-4-3-0)
Paul Coffey 138 (1-10-9-11-9-14)
Doug Wilson 128 (0-6-20-8-8-6)
Phil Housley 120 (0-6-8-16-14-4)
Al Iafrate 47 (0-1-1-10-6-3)
Paul Cavallini 37 (0-2-2-4-4-5)
Mike Ramsey 16 (0-0-2-2-1-3)
Gary Suter 14 (0-0-0-1-3-8)
Kevin Lowe 10 (0-0-0-1-5-2)
Chris Chelios 9 (0-0-1-0-2-4)
Kevin Hatcher 7 (0-0-0-2-1-0)
Craig Ludwig 7 (0-0-1-1-1-0)
Jamie Macoun 6 (0-0-0-0-3-3)
Brian Leetch 6 (0-0-0-1-1-2)
Alexei Kasatonov 3 (0-0-0-1-0-0)
Brad McCrimmon 3 (0-0-0-1-0-0)
Dave Ellett 3 (0-0-0-0-1-2)
Steve Duchesne 2 (0-0-0-0-1-1)
Petr Svoboda 1 (0-0-0-0-0-1)
Vyacheslav Fetisov 1 (0-0-0-0-0-1)
Rick Zombo 1 (0-0-0-0-0-1)
Dave Manson 1 (0-0-0-0-0-1)
Craig Muni 1 (0-0-0-0-0-1)
Doug Crossman 1 (0-0-0-0-0-1)
Center
Mark Messier 287 (54-5-2)
Wayne Gretzky 173 (9-39-11)
Steve Yzerman 44 (0-8-20)
Mario Lemieux 37 (0-6-19)
Pat LaFontaine 18 (0-5-3)
Pierre Turgeon 7 (0-0-7)
Adam Oates 1 (0-0-1)
Right Wing
Brett Hull 298 (56-6-0)
Cam Neely 183 (7-48-4)
Stephane Richer 37 (0-5-22)
Gary Leeman 22 (0-2-16)
Rick Tocchet 14 (0-1-1)
Sylvain Turgeon 3 (0-3-0)
Pat Verbeek 3 (0-0-3)
Jari Kurri 2 (0-0-2)
Steve Larmer 2 (0-0-2)
Bernie Nicholls 1 (0-0-1)
Sergei Makarov 1 (0-0-1)
Joe Mullen 1 (0-0-1)
Left Wing
Luc Robitaille 214 (29-20-9)
Brian Bellows 194 (26-19-7)
Vincent Damphousse 49 (3-7-13)
Dave Andreychuk 31 (2-5-6)
John Ogrodnick 14 (1-1-6)
Gary Roberts 12 (0-2-6)
Gerard Gallant 10 (0-2-4)
Geoff Courtnall 7 (0-2-1)
Pat Verbeek 6 (0-1-3)
Mark Messier 5 (1-0-0)
Brett Hull 5 (1-0-0)
Esa Tikkanen 5 (0-1-2)
Kirk Muller 5 (0-1-2)
Steve Larmer 3 (0-1-0)
Joe Mullen 3 (0-1-0)
Steve Thomas 2 (0-0-2)
Shayne Corson 1 (0-0-1)
Gary Leeman 1 (0-0-1)
Someone mentioned that they didn't see Rogie Vachon in his prime. If you get a chance, watch the 1976 Canada Cup tournament games. One of the best goaltending performances in a major hockey tournament. He only lost one game 1-0.
I`m currently trying to do the `79 season from an online newspaper archive ( the same method I`m using to find these voting results), and I`m about halfway through the season, but you can only look at so many blurry newspaper summaries before you have to put it down for awhile.
If anyone has a lead on where to find some of the missing results, specifically the early 70s, please let me know.
I don't know how old The Hockey News -issues you have, but it seems somebody is selling back issues even from 1940's. I haven't bought anything from there myself, but maybe somebody is interested in ordering the issues with awards details.
I don't know how old The Hockey News -issues you have, but it seems somebody is selling back issues even from 1940's. I haven't bought anything from there myself, but maybe somebody is interested in ordering the issues with awards details.
Apparently the Hockey Hall of Fame has a well-organized resource centre with thousands of newspapers, magazines and other similar material from all eras about the games` history; I`d assume most THNs would be there. It`s viewable by appointment only, but you`re allowed to look at or photocopy anything for a small fee. Unfortunately, I`m about 6 hours from Toronto, but I`d love to visit there.
Here`s some more Hart results from as far back as I could find. My primary focus here is the Hart, maybe I`ll look into the other awards later. Unfortunately the results are sometimes incomplete if not missing completely; but it`s better than nothing. An interesting side-note: from 1953-1968 the voting was done in two phases; they would vote at the halfway mark on the first half of the season, then vote before the playoffs on the second half of the season. Those two results would then be combined for the final result.
1948-49:
1. S. Abel 43
2. B. Durnan 36
3. R. Conacher 5
4. T. Lindsay 4
4. P. Ronty 4
4. D. Bentley 4
7. C. Rayner 3
8. K. Mosdell 2
8. H. Watson 2
10. five players with 1 point
1949-50:
1. C. Rayner 36
2. T. Kennedy 23
3. M. Richard 18
4+. ????
1950-51:
1. M. Schmidt 40
2. M. Richard 28
3. G. Howe 11
3. R. Kelly 11
5. T. Kennedy 8
6. B. Olmstead 6
7. B. Quackenbush 2
8. A. Rollins 1
8. R. Conacher 1
1951-52:
1. G. Howe 62
2. E. Lach 46
3. J. Henry 14
4. T. Sawchuk ??
4. M. Schmidt ??
6+. ????
1952-53:
1. G. Howe 58
2. A. Rollins 25
2. R. Kelly 25
4+. ????
1953-54
1. A. Rollins 80
2. R. Kelly 74
3. M. Richard 44
4+. ????
1954-55:
1. T. Kennedy 86
2. H. Lumely 61
3+. ????
1955-56:
1. J. Beliveau 94
2. T. Sloan 86
3. G. Worsely ??
4. R. Kelly 25
5. D. Harvey 11
6. J. Wilson 10
7. G. Howe 8
8. A. Bathgate 6
8. M. Richard 6
10. T. Lindsay 3
1956-57:
1. G. Howe 111
2. J. Beliveau 55
3. A. Bathgate 51
4. T. Sawchuk 35
5. D. Harvey 17
6. E. Litzenberger 13
7+. ????
1957-58:
1. G. Howe 105
2. A. Bathgate 70
3. D. Harvey 41
4. H. Richard 40
5. G. Hall 37
6. B. Gadsby 9
7. C. Henry 6
8. D. Moore 4
9. F. Mackell 3
10. seven players with one point
1958-59:
1. A. Bathgate 133
2. G. Howe 60
3. J. Beliveau 36
4+. ????
1959-60:
1. G. Howe 118
2. B. Hull 55
3. G. Hall 44
4. J. Beliveau 28
5. B. Olmstead 27
6+. ????
1960-61:
1. B. Geoffrion 84
2. J. Bower 71
3. G. Howe 66
4. F. Mahovlich 41
5+. ????
1961-62:
1. J. Plante 94
2. D. Harvey 60
3. B. Hull 53
4. G. Howe 40
5. A. Bathgate 31
6. G. Hall 25
7. J. Bower 16
8. R. Kelly 4
9. D. Mohns 1
1962-63: couldn`t find results; Gordie Howe was the winner, Stan Mikita the runner-up
1963-64:
1. J. Beliveau ??
2. B. Hull 58
3. G. Howe 50
4. C. Hodge 43
5. S. Mikita 30
6. G. Hall 25
7. K. Wharram 3
7. T. Sawchuk 3
7. J. Bower 3
10. E. Johnston 2
10. T. Horton 2
1964-65:
1. B. Hull 103
2. N. Ullman 96
3. G. Howe ??
4. R. Crozier ??
5+. ????
1965-66:
1. B. Hull 145
2. J. Beliveau 59
3. G. Howe 24
4. G. Hall 21
5. N. Ullman 14
6+. ????
1966-67:
1. S. Mikita 168
2. E. Giacomin 57
3. B. Hull 21
4. H. Richard 16
5. H. Howell 14
6. B. Orr 11
7. R. Gilbert 10
7. G. Howe 10
9. R. Kelly 7
10. P. Goyette 3
10. D. Dejordy 3
1967-68:
1. S. Mikita 52
2. J. Beliveau 43
3. B. Hull 32
4+. ????
1968-69:
1. P. Esposito 133
2. J. Beliveau 47
3. B. Orr 44
4. R. Berenson 38
5. B. Hull 12
5. G. Howe 12
7. E. Giacomin 9
8. G. Hall 7
9. N. Ullman 5
9. Y. Cournoyer 5
1969-70:
1. B. Orr 155
2. T. Esosito 109
3+. ????
1970-71: couldn`t find results; Bobby Orr was the winner, Phil Esposito was the runner-up
1971-72: couldn`t find results; Bobby Orr was the winner, Ken Dryden was the runner-up
1972-73:
1. B. Clarke 158
2. P. Esposito 96
3. B. Orr 63
4. K. Dryden 53
5. G. Perreault 25
6. M. Redmond 8
7. S. Mikita 5
7. D. Hextall 5
9. T. Esposito 3
9. Y. Cournoyer 3
1973-74: couldn`t find results; Phil Esposito was the winner, Bernie Parent was the runner-up
If anyone has a lead on where to find some of the missing results, specifically the early 70s, please let me know.
Where on earth did you get this stuff? It is FANTASTIC!!!
I just got a response from the statistics department of the NHL head office. They sent me a PDF copy of the 2004 NHL Awards Media Guide, and it is FANTASTIC!
It does not quite have everything I need or want but, it is a HUGE step in the right direction. It has the top 5 vote getters each year for the major awards. It only has the voting results for the first and second all stars - nothing beyond the top two.
I have sent another request for further information and I will keep you posted.
If anybody wants a copy of the 2004 NHL Awards Media Guide, PM me with your email address. It is a pretty cool document.
I asked around a couple of mailing lists and a writer/hockey researcher was nice enough to send me some results that haven`t been posted yet:
1969-70 Hart:
1. B. Orr 156
2. T. Esposito 110
3. R. Berenson 12
4. S. Mikita 11
5. B. Park 7
6. P. Esposito 5
6. G. Howe 5
8. R. Lonsberry 3
8. P. Goyette 3
10. P. Martin 2
11. 10 players with 1 point
1970-71 Hart:
1. B. Orr 151
2. P. Esposito 127
3. B. Hull 28
4. D. Keon 20
5. J. Plante 16
6. B. Baun 7
7. O. Kurtenbach 5
8. T. Esposito 4
8. E. Giacomin 4
10. G. Villemure 3
10. P. Mahovlich 3
10. B. Clarke 3
13. G. Perreault 2
14. 5 players with 1 point
1971-72 Hart:
1. B. Orr 126
2. K. Dryden 89
3. P. Esposito 57
4. J. Ratelle 55
5. V. Hadfield 18
6. T. Esposito 12
7. B. Hull 10
8. B. Clarke 5
9. B. Park 4
10. R. Gilbert 2
10. G. Perreault 2
1973-74 Hart:
1. P. Esposito 149
2. B. Parent 114
3. B. Orr 73
4. B. Clarke 54
5. T. Esposito 16
6. S. Mikita 9
7. S. Apps Jr. 4
8. B. Park 3
9. D. Sittler 2
9. Y. Cournoyer 2
11. 6 players with 1 point
Also this season apparently hasn`t been posted yet
1982-83 Hart:
1. W. Gretzky 266
2. P. Peeters 159
3. D.Savard 67
4. R. Langway 50
5. M. Howe 20
6. B. Clarke 9
7. P. Stastny 5
8. L. McDonald 4
9. G. Resch 2
10. M. Bossy 1
10. J. Tonelli 1
10. M. Pavelich 1
10. B. Sutter 1
I just got a response from the statistics department of the NHL head office. They sent me a PDF copy of the 2004 NHL Awards Media Guide, and it is FANTASTIC!
It does not quite have everything I need or want but, it is a HUGE step in the right direction. It has the top 5 vote getters each year for the major awards. It only has the voting results for the first and second all stars - nothing beyond the top two.
I have sent another request for further information and I will keep you posted.
If anybody wants a copy of the 2004 NHL Awards Media Guide, PM me with your email address. It is a pretty cool document.
Thanks to Ogopogo for sending me that file. Lots of stuff to analyze and work with there. Unfortunately it looks like I did a lot of research for nothing. I can`t believe the NHL actually came through for once.
Looking at the file. Going through the Hart voting. So far I've only found one year that accounts for every vote.
1950-51
HART: (18-18-18)
1. Milt Schmidt, Bos C 40 (10-4-2)
2. Maurice Richard, Mtl LW 28 (5-4-5)
T3. Red Kelly, Det D 11 (1-2-4)
T3. Gordie Howe, Det RW 11 (0-5-1)
5. Ted Kennedy, Tor C 8 (0-2-4)
6. Bert Olmstead, Mtl LW 6 (2-0-0)
7. Bill Quackenbush, Bos D 2 (0-1-0)
T8. Al Rollins, Tor G 1 (0-0-1)
T8. Roy Conacher, Chi LW 1 (0-0-1)
This seems to add up correctly for 18 votes per half, with a 5-3-1 points breakdown, for 162 points.
1961-62
HART: (126-152) (162 a half?)
1. Jacques Plante, Mtl G 94 (40-54)
2. Doug Harvey, NY D 60 (53-7)
3. Bobby Hull, Chi LW 53 (0-53)
4. Gordie Howe, Det RW 40 (23-17)
5. Andy Bathgate, NYR RW 31 (10-21)
6. Glenn Hall, Chi G 25
7. Johnny Bower, Tor G 16
8. Red Kelly, Tor C 4
9. Doug Mohns, Bos D/RW 1
Also this season apparently hasn`t been posted yet
1982-83 Hart:
1. W. Gretzky 266
2. P. Peeters 159
3. D.Savard 67
4. R. Langway 50
5. M. Howe 20
6. B. Clarke 9
7. P. Stastny 5
8. L. McDonald 4
9. G. Resch 2
10. M. Bossy 1
10. J. Tonelli 1
10. M. Pavelich 1
10. B. Sutter 1
Is that Brent or Brian Sutter?
Adding this up it doesn't work out. It adds up to 586 points, when it should be 567. Rod Langway is listed as receiving 1-6-7 in the NHL Awards file, for 50 points, but that only adds up to 30 (5+18+7).
Adding this up it doesn't work out. It adds up to 586 points, when it should be 567. Rod Langway is listed as receiving 1-6-7 in the NHL Awards file, for 50 points, but that only adds up to 30 (5+18+7).
I double-checked the newspaper article. I forgot to mark down 1 point for Brad Park- my bad. It says Rod Langway (50); has to be a typo. It was Brian Sutter.
If you do go and if I'm there, I'll show you around.
The Resource Centre has all the Hockey News on microfiche and hard copy as well. The indexes that list all the articles are especially helpful.
Quote:
Originally Posted by reckoning
Apparently the Hockey Hall of Fame has a well-organized resource centre with thousands of newspapers, magazines and other similar material from all eras about the games` history; I`d assume most THNs would be there. It`s viewable by appointment only, but you`re allowed to look at or photocopy anything for a small fee. Unfortunately, I`m about 6 hours from Toronto, but I`d love to visit there.
Just to add a couple of missing details to what the media guide listed:
1972-73 Calder (top 10 only):
1. S. Vickers 103
2. B. Barber 74
3. B. Harris 48
4. J. Schoenfeld 45
5. D. Bouchard 42
6. G. Sheppard 36
7. P. Russell 36
8. H. Graves 18
9. H. Boucha 14
10. V. Venasky 5
1982-83 Selke (top 10 only):
1. B. Clarke 125
2. J. Kurri 63
3. B. Gould 51
4. T. Lysiak 43
5. D. Risebrough 27
6. B. Gainey 26
7. C. Ramsay 25
8. J. Tonelli 23
9. R. Middleton 20
10. S. Smyl 15
1982-83 Calder
1. S. Larmer 227
2. P. Housely 155
3. S. Stevens 85
4. B. Bellows 78
5. P. Lindbergh 21
6. M. Naslund 16
7. D. Daoust 10
8. M. Krushelnyski 9
9. B. Froese 5
10. P. Ihnacak 1
There is an extra 40 points somewhere on that list that shouldn`t be there. Very strong group of rookies for one season though.
1. S. Larmer 227
2. P. Housely 155
3. S. Stevens 85
4. B. Bellows 78
5. P. Lindbergh 21
6. M. Naslund 16
7. D. Daoust 10
8. M. Krushelnyski 9
9. B. Froese 5
10. P. Ihnacak 1
There is an extra 40 points somewhere on that list that shouldn`t be there. Very strong group of rookies for one season though.
CALDER: (68-58-52) Only 63 votes.
1. Steve Larmer, Chi RW 227 (36-13-8)
2. Phil Housley, Buf D 115 (13-24-18) Totals 155
3. Scott Stevens, Wsh D 85 (13-4-8)
4. Brian Bellows, Min LW 78 (6-12-12)
5. Pelle Lindbergh, Phi G 21 (0-5-6)
The 40 points is easy enough to find. The question is how to get the vote breakdown, just removing the 5 extra 1st place votes only accounts for 25 points. Removing 8 would make 40 points, but leave 3 1sts amongst these guys.
Do you have any of the votes for these guys?
6. M. Naslund 16
7. D. Daoust 10
8. M. Krushelnyski 9
9. B. Froese 5
10. P. Ihnacak 1 (0-0-1)
If you do go and if I'm there, I'll show you around.
The Resource Centre has all the Hockey News on microfiche and hard copy as well. The indexes that list all the articles are especially helpful.
From the NHL Media Guide, the thing that stands out the most is the fact that Eddie Shore led all defensemen in Hart votes eight times (1928, 1929, 1931, 1933, 1935, 1936, 1938, 1939). This may be a bit of a stretch, but isn't it possible to infer that Shore was the best defenseman in the league eight times? Is this the equivalent of winning eight Norris trophies?
Hart voting went more on most valuable than best player back then, so it doesn't quite equate. Lionel Conacher was runner-up for the Hart in '34, but a 2nd team all-star. That said Shore was the top vote getter in all-star defensemen 8 times, 31, 32, 33, 35, 36, 38, 39 & 40, and the top defenseman in Hart voting in 28 & 29 before the all-star teams started.
Looking at Hart voting in the 50's Red Kelly 51 T3rd, 53 3rd, 54 2nd & 56 4th with 135 points, and Doug Harvey 55 5th, 56 5th, 57 5th, & 58 3rd with 87 points. Add in the fact that there were only half as many votes before 54, when the switched to first and second half voting, and it's obvious Kelly doesn't get enough respect as a great defenseman.
One eye-catcher for me was that Hainsworth wasn't in the top 5 in Hart voting when he had his 22 SOs in 29.
I'm not an employee of the HHOF although I do a lot of my work there and I volunteer to help them in various areas like their 'History of Hockey' Course.
And, I'm always looking to learn more about hockey history from any source.
Where on earth did you get this stuff? It is FANTASTIC!!!
