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07-09-2013, 04:23 AM
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It's not as bad as it sounds, it's easy to pick up firsts in the bantam draft - in the dub your competitive window is very short (a couple years, maybe) and at the end of that you can net 2-3 first rounders after a quick sell-off.

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07-09-2013, 10:22 AM
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Murray is slower than molasses, I hope and think Cederholm has much better skating than the Swedish Doug Murray does.

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07-09-2013, 10:38 AM
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scouting reports say's he's much more mobile

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07-09-2013, 10:57 AM
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So, a Douglas Murray that can skate?



"Crankshaft" Murray has been one of my favourite players but he looks done at this stage and slow defencemen are becoming rarer these days.

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07-09-2013, 11:08 AM
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I brought it up in another thread, and it's just my uninformed idea in my head that he'll be more like Jonathan Ericsson out of Detroit.

Ericsson is a big guy who plays physical, yet can adequately get the puck out of his own zone and skates well enough to handle most players on most nights.

Boy it would be amazing if that's the type of player Cederholm becomes.

I was bored last night so I used the HF search function to see what had been said about Cederholm pre-draft, and all I could find were lists by some more knowledgable posters on the prospects forum. Cederholm has basically been ranked in the 45-60 range from 2011-to as late as early 2013.

I'm not sure he fell, or if others just rose to to max upside, but this is a kid who has always played with the best of his age group in Sweden (U-17). I wonder why he didn't make the U-18 team, but I couldn't find any info on that exclusion.

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07-09-2013, 11:26 AM
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Ericsson is only emerging recently as a player, though. He was butt of all the jokes for awhile.

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07-09-2013, 11:29 AM
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Edit: Someone made a thread about it, nvm

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07-09-2013, 01:11 PM
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Aquilinis are a bunch of cheapos. Same reason the food sucks at Rogers. astronomical tickets prices and they won't plow any of the OBSCENE profit they make back into the team. sucks.
Arena upgrades almost every year, spending above the cap, increased scouting and development budgets, paying NHL salaries to AHL players, burying contracts in the minors (before the recent CBA changes) etc. Not to mention the fact that they just bought an AHL franchise to better the development of their prospects.

Cheapos? Come on.

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07-09-2013, 02:11 PM
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Arena upgrades almost every year, spending above the cap, increased scouting and development budgets, paying NHL salaries to AHL players, burying contracts in the minors (before the recent CBA changes) etc. Not to mention the fact that they just bought an AHL franchise to better the development of their prospects.

Cheapos? Come on.
I think the problem is Francesco Aquilini is a big fan of keeping the franchise - hockey ops and business - running on all cylinders, but his father and brothers are less involved and dislike needless expenditures. Hence why their was so much contention regarding buyouts. Carrying bad contracts in the minors (Reinprecht and Lukowich) was a point of contention, too.

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07-09-2013, 02:16 PM
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I think the problem is Francesco Aquilini is a big fan of keeping the franchise - hockey ops and business - running on all cylinders, but his father and brothers are less involved and dislike needless expenditures. Hence why their was so much contention regarding buyouts. Carrying bad contracts in the minors (Reinprecht and Lukowich) was a point of contention, too.
Rightfully so, paying Luongo $27m to play and beat his team for years on end make very little sense.

The only player who was CBO'd that was actually performing well was Grabovski. We didn't see CBO's for players that were playing up to their salary, which is exactly what Luongo does and will continue to do.

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07-09-2013, 04:14 PM
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I think the problem is Francesco Aquilini is a big fan of keeping the franchise - hockey ops and business - running on all cylinders, but his father and brothers are less involved and dislike needless expenditures. Hence why their was so much contention regarding buyouts. Carrying bad contracts in the minors (Reinprecht and Lukowich) was a point of contention, too.
This is all conjecture though. I've also heard a Luongo buyout was an option but Gillis wanted assets. It's impossible to nail down that sort of thing, especially when so many Vancouver columnists will write long articles based on gut feelings (see: Willes, Ed).

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07-09-2013, 06:30 PM
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Tyson Giuriato has the best updates from twitter I've seen so far. Listing scores from scrimmages and teams.

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07-09-2013, 07:05 PM
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What a statesmen, he knows how to play you guys. If I was a Canucks prospect I'd just shout "Trevor Linden!" Over and over and you guys would love me.
I love you just for saying it in a post. :love:

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I'm waiting patiently for the first Bo Linden jersey foul.

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I love you just for saying it in a post. :love:
Trevor Linden.

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You say it three times and it counts as a marriage proposal.

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07-09-2013, 07:33 PM
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My friend is named after Trevor Linden, he gets all the girls.

But has anybody noticed that in that instagram picture of Shinkaruk and Horvat that the Canucks posted, Horvat looks a bit like Neely?

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07-09-2013, 07:46 PM
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My friend is named after Trevor Linden, he gets all the girls.

But has anybody noticed that in that instagram picture of Shinkaruk and Horvat that the Canucks posted, Horvat looks a bit like Neely?
oh, are we trading him?

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07-09-2013, 10:58 PM
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They uploaded more interviews on canucks.com. Tommernes among them.

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07-09-2013, 11:20 PM
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Dobber Prospects gave our draft an A

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Vancouver Canucks: A

Selections: Bo Horvat (9), Hunter Shinkaruk (24), Cole Cassels(85), Jordan Subban (115), Anton Cederholm (145), Mike Williamson (175), Miles Liberati (205)

Judging on the 1st round alone, Vancouver had probably the strongest opening round of any team with multiple picks after trading for 9th overall to select high character, two-way forward Bo Horvat (a player you all know I was higher on than anyone else was dating back to last summer). After the Horvat selection, Vancouver waited and watched Hunter Shinkaruk slide all the way to them at 24th after being ranked as a potential top 10 selection. For Vancouver to land top calibre players like Horvat and Shinkaruk in the top 25 is a huge boost to their organization and it allowed them to take some chances (educated ones) on their subsequent picks. With their 85th overall selection, Vancouver grabbed the son of former Canuck Andrew Cassels in Cole, a responsible grinder type of player. Jordan Subban was selected one pick ahead of the Montreal Canadiens in the 4th round and it would've been interesting to see if the Habs would've taken him. With way, Subban's upside is high as an offensive defenseman so I love this selection. He's small but his drive and skill are very high. Ending the draft with Anton Cederholm (a reliable defenseman) and Miles Liberati (a more offensive rearguard who was buried on a deep London team) were excellent appraisals of potential longterm talent.

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07-09-2013, 11:32 PM
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Pretty dope that all our prospects seem to be buddies already!

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07-09-2013, 11:39 PM
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Tyson Giuriato has the best updates from twitter I've seen so far. Listing scores from scrimmages and teams.
Yeah, Tyson's the guy to go to for good Canucks prospects information.

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07-09-2013, 11:45 PM
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Pretty dope that all our prospects seem to be buddies already!
Except for Corrado getting pissed at that guy for rocking the dragon boat.

Rift.

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07-09-2013, 11:56 PM
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Poor Eriksson's English isn't the best.

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i like how that dobber thing doesnt mention mike williamson because the chances of him doing something like 'scoring a goal' even at in the sphl is around 0%

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