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07-02-2013, 05:56 PM
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Saving the compliance buy outs as trade bait. Good move Nonis

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07-02-2013, 05:57 PM
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OP said it didn't specify what kind of buyout do he put ordinary, so it could be a compliance buyout.

My guess is compliance.

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07-02-2013, 05:58 PM
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They have far from plenty of cap space with all their RFAs. And they're obviously not going to buy out Grabovski which would be a ridiculous thing to do. I highly doubt this was an ordinary buyout.
Still, it won't come near the ceiling and that's main point. It's not like this is going to tie Leafs caproom for the next 2 years.

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Why didn't he go through waivers? Does he have an NMC or something like that?
He waived it already earlier during the season to get sent down to the AHL.

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Saving the compliance buy outs as trade bait. Good move Nonis
If you mean to take on some other team's bad contract and amnesty it, it's been forbidded already by the NHL.

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thescore says its a compliance buy out

http://www.thescore.com/home/article...-out-komisarek

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07-02-2013, 05:59 PM
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Seems like it's an ordinary buy out..

We might need the compliance ones for Liles/Grabo or use it as trading chips. No point wasting it on Komisarek.

It still saves us about 2.5M cap space this year.

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07-02-2013, 06:00 PM
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thescore says its a compliance buy out

http://www.thescore.com/home/article...-out-komisarek
Looks like they are basing it on the tweet, which doesnt specify.

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07-02-2013, 06:00 PM
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Still, it won't come near the ceiling and that's main point. It's not like this is going to tie Leafs caproom for the next 2 years.

He waived it already earlier during the season to get sent down to the AHL.

If you mean to take on some other team's bad contract and amnesty it, it's been forbidded already by the NHL.
i think it's still allowed, you just can't re-sign the player afterwards

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07-02-2013, 06:01 PM
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Good move to let Komisarek move on with his NHL career. And interesting that its ordinary.

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07-02-2013, 06:02 PM
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Still, it won't come near the ceiling and that's main point. It's not like this is going to tie Leafs caproom for the next 2 years.

He waived it already earlier during the season to get sent down to the AHL.

If you mean to take on some other team's bad contract and amnesty it, it's been forbidded already by the NHL.
What has been forbidden is the player going back to his original team, not the acquiring team from buying him out.

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I actually hope it is ordinary buyout, that leaves Leafs with options and doesn't impact our cap that much really.

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07-02-2013, 06:04 PM
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SNHockeyCentral: #Leafs use first compliance buyout on defenceman Mike Komisarek. http://t.co/dF7LII0UWa #TMLtalk

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I'm not sure you can buyout players in September.
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You cannot buyout players outside of the buyout period. This leaves time for the bought-out player to find a new team while teams still have room for new players.
True. Thanks for clearing that up! I just thought Komi would perform well under Carlyle so maybe we should keep him around, especially since we could use a good stay at home defenseman.

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Where are you guys getting that it was an ordinary buyout?

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07-02-2013, 06:05 PM
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SNHockeyCentral: #Leafs use first compliance buyout on defenceman Mike Komisarek. http://t.co/dF7LII0UWa #TMLtalk
article uses tweet as source and does not once mention compliance

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07-02-2013, 06:07 PM
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True. Thanks for clearing that up! I just thought Komi would perform well under Carlyle so maybe we should keep him around, especially since we could use a good stay at home defenseman.
I agree that I think he'd be okay as a #6/7 defenseman on the Leafs, however I'm not sure if we have a defenseman that I'd be comfortable pairing him with.

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I'd take him as a bottom pairing guy on the Rangers if he's cheap. He's a Long Island native so I can see him going to any one of the local teams around here.

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07-02-2013, 06:18 PM
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If we were going to buy him out like this, couldn't we have at least kept him for training camp? Seems like...such a waste...
agreed, i'd give him another chance, personally

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Mike Komisarek ‏@mkomisarek 8m

It was a privilege playing for a first class organization like the Leafs even though things did not turn out as I would have liked.

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07-02-2013, 06:26 PM
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I see this as both good and bad.

It's good in that it opens up a contract slot which allows for a little more flexibility in that area, but I also see it as bad in that the cap-hit of this buy-out will now increase the amount of "dead" cap space the team is already on the hook for. It's not a smart move with the cap coming down; this will now further limit what Nonis can do to improve the team.

It probably would have been better just to leave Komisarek (and his contract) buried in the minors for one more year. At least it would have been off the books sooner.

Oh well....

EDIT: Have heard on Sportsnet Connected that this was a compliance buy-out. Don't know why the Leafs bothered to waste a compliance buy-out on Komisarek (who only had one year left on his contract). Should have just left him buried in the minors until his contract ran out.

A waste of a compliance buy-out.


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07-02-2013, 06:30 PM
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I see this as both good and bad.

It's good in that it opens up a contract slot which allows for a little more flexibility in that area, but I also see it as bad in that the cap-hit of this buy-out will now increase the amount of "dead" cap space the team is already on the hook for. It's not a smart move with the cap coming down; this will now further limit what Nonis can do to improve the team.

It probably would have been better just to leave Komisarek (and his contract) buried in the minors for one more year. At least it would have been off the books sooner.

Oh well....
Maybe he needs the extra couple of mil for some extensions.

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07-02-2013, 06:31 PM
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So it is compliance?

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I see this as both good and bad.

It's good in that it opens up a contract slot which allows for a little more flexibility in that area, but I also see it as bad in that the cap-hit of this buy-out will now increase the amount of "dead" cap space the team is already on the hook for. It's not a smart move with the cap coming down; this will now further limit what Nonis can do to improve the team.

It probably would have been better just to leave Komisarek (and his contract) buried in the minors for one more year. At least it would have been off the books sooner.

Oh well....
Contracts in the AHL still count against the cap per the new CBA

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Maybe he needs the extra couple of mil for some extensions.
Plus the added cap flexibility now allows us to do make multiple significant moves if needed. What people need to realize is that the buyout period ends on the 5th. It's either create cap space now, or be handicapped with cap issues in case a good deal comes your way.

I think Nonis keeps the 2nd buyout to use on Grabo or Liles next year. I think Grabo will bounce back, leaving Liles as the odd man out.

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I see this as both good and bad.

It's good in that it opens up a contract slot which allows for a little more flexibility in that area, but I also see it as bad in that the cap-hit of this buy-out will now increase the amount of "dead" cap space the team is already on the hook for. It's not a smart move with the cap coming down; this will now further limit what Nonis can do to improve the team.

It probably would have been better just to leave Komisarek (and his contract) buried in the minors for one more year. At least it would have been off the books sooner.

Oh well....
If it is ordinary, the only thing is that it frees up $2.5M THIS year where the cap is going down. Colby's and Tuckers buyouts are off the books next year freeing up 2M and Komi's hit is only $1.1M, and most think the cap will be going back up, so no worries there. If this gives us room to sign all of our RFAs and a few UFAs perhaps its all good.

All reports I've seen have it as a compliance buyout so it wouldn't matter in that case as we'll now have close to $20M this season to work with.

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