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07-03-2013, 08:27 AM
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Vinny signs which center traded?

Now that Vinny has signed we have another center.
What is the Flyers offseason rebuilding plan?
Are Flyers planning on moving some assets including
a center (+) for #1 defenseman?
Who would you move for Shattenkirk, Pietrangelo, etc...?

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07-03-2013, 08:30 AM
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All I know id Edmonton has had a ton of interest in Max Talbot and Braydon Coburn through last year. The Fourth Period yesterday the Flyers are working on a deal with them still, and Coburn was just one of the main pieces headed their way. It seems like, if the rumor is true, we could see a major deal between the Flyers and Edmonton. And technically Talbot is listed as a center, so I say him

The kids stay.

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Now that Vinny has signed we have another center.
What is the Flyers offseason rebuilding plan?
Sign a goalie. Sign a winger. Dump a contract (Meszaros).

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Are Flyers planning on moving some assets including
a center (+) for #1 defenseman?
Who would you move for Shattenkirk, Pietrangelo, etc...?
Not likely. If those players were available, then maybe, but since they're not available you're looking at the need to put together an overpayment package for them.

We should never be interested in doing something that stupid.

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Didn't Pietrangelo say he wanted high 6s or low 7s yearly pay?

St.Louis is in good cap shape, but not THAT good.

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Schenn and Couts stay. Schenn will now be moving to winger for now and the foreseeable future.

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And run the risk of having a guy be terrible.

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From Richards Cloutier:

4. I've been saying for some time that Ladislav Smid is not a player MacT is a huge fan of. I don't know why, ladies and gents...I just know this is the case. With his new contract, Smid is a very easy player to deal. The Oilers could get an immediate player for him. Maybe a 2nd line LW. Or maybe Braydon Coburn. With Smid instead of Coburn, the Flyers shave a million off their cap number.

Do you think coburn vs smid is a good trade (I dont know him???)
If u add Talbot for Paajarvi that could be nice.

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Didn't Pietrangelo say he wanted high 6s or low 7s yearly pay?

St.Louis is in good cap shape, but not THAT good.
He wants nothing to do with a number that has a 6 in front of it. That's what Strickland said. He also said they want Couturier for Halak though.... I don't think they even come close to that.

Pietrangelo probably wants an 8 year extension anywhere in the range of 57-60 million. The Blues have new ownership, but will they spend that much on just one player? Also there is reports that they are close to signing Leopold after the Russell ordeal ends with waivers. He is coming in at 3 million supposedly.

Just an interesting team to keep an eye on, but in the end I think they figure a way out to keep him. July 5th is coming up though extremely quickly.

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BSchenn can be our new Patrick Sharp. Moving to wing, but able to play center if necessary.

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4. I've been saying for some time that Ladislav Smid is not a player MacT is a huge fan of. I don't know why, ladies and gents...I just know this is the case. With his new contract, Smid is a very easy player to deal. The Oilers could get an immediate player for him. Maybe a 2nd line LW. Or maybe Braydon Coburn. With Smid instead of Coburn, the Flyers shave a million off their cap number.

Do you think coburn vs smid is a good trade (I dont know him???)
If u add Talbot for Paajarvi that could be nice.
Richard Coutier is a rumor mongol. He never breaks deals or anything of that sorts for them. What I am trying to say nicely is he is a hack.

If you want Edmonton news follow Bob Stauffer on twitter.
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4. I've been saying for some time that Ladislav Smid is not a player MacT is a huge fan of. I don't know why, ladies and gents...I just know this is the case. With his new contract, Smid is a very easy player to deal. The Oilers could get an immediate player for him. Maybe a 2nd line LW. Or maybe Braydon Coburn. With Smid instead of Coburn, the Flyers shave a million off their cap number.

Do you think coburn vs smid is a good trade (I dont know him???)
If u add Talbot for Paajarvi that could be nice.
The Flyers should not be in favor of any deal that makes them worse-off in the short term.

If they are in favor of deals that make them worse right now, then what is the point to signing Streit and Lecavalier?

Ladies and gentlemen, the Flyers are going to try to win the Cup just like they do every year, so I can't see them, at this stage of the game, trading Coburn in a deal that does not make them a better team.

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Unless they just flat out think Coburn is not worth his contract.

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I would imagine with Schenn probably moving to the wing, if anyone gets traded from the top 9 it will be Read.

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Unless they just flat out think Coburn is not worth his contract.
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Coburn being on a bargain contract and all makes me think that this isn't the case.

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BSchenn can be our new Patrick Sharp. Moving to wing, but able to play center if necessary.
This is a concept very few are understanding. If they are to do this I hope they commit to it.

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I would imagine with Schenn probably moving to the wing, if anyone gets traded from the top 9 it will be Read.
Agreed, he's super valuable, but next year he will probably command a good amt of money.

He's a legit Top 6 forward.

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Coburn being on a bargain contract and all makes me think that this isn't the case.
My guess is that categorizing bargain is a point of view. They may not think he's playing up to it.

I don't think that's true, because he wasn't traded for junk during the draft thank god.

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Agreed, he's super valuable, but next year he will probably command a good amt of money.

He's a legit Top 6 forward.
I think he could bring a pretty good return for that exact reason. A lot of teams could use a good top 6 forward who can do pretty much everything.

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This is a concept very few are understanding. If they are to do this I hope they commit to it.
I pretty much said that was their plan as of yesterday.

But I've been saying that it should be their plan since the offseason started.

I swear to god, Holmgren's stalking me on HFBoards. Everything I've told him to do he's basically done. Well, the Lecavalier thing was his own idea, but it accomplished basically what I wanted done in a much better way since now we don't have to use Laughton as a 3rd line center and we can let him develop on the 4th.

Mad props to Holmgren for actually listening to HFBoards this year.

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My guess is that categorizing bargain is a point of view. They may not think he's playing up to it.

I don't think that's true, because he wasn't traded for junk during the draft thank god.
Any defenseman leading your team in TOI is going to be worth at least 4.50m.

He probably will lead us in TOI again this year, but he'll have a capable partner for a change.

Every year that Coburn has excelled, he's been paired with somebody who can take some responsibilities away from him. Streit does just that.

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4. I've been saying for some time that Ladislav Smid is not a player MacT is a huge fan of. I don't know why, ladies and gents...I just know this is the case. With his new contract, Smid is a very easy player to deal. The Oilers could get an immediate player for him. Maybe a 2nd line LW. Or maybe Braydon Coburn. With Smid instead of Coburn, the Flyers shave a million off their cap number.

Do you think coburn vs smid is a good trade (I dont know him???)
If u add Talbot for Paajarvi that could be nice.
Another so called expert or insider who doesn't get our cap-situation.

Coburn for Smid straight up is a pretty significant downgrade.
Not happening.

I want Klefbom if I trade Coburn to Edmonton.

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The Flyers should not be in favor of any deal that makes them worse-off in the short term.

If they are in favor of deals that make them worse right now, then what is the point to signing Streit and Lecavalier?

Ladies and gentlemen, the Flyers are going to try to win the Cup just like they do every year, so I can't see them, at this stage of the game, trading Coburn in a deal that does not make them a better team.
Agreed, but there is a deal to me had with Edmonton that doesn't hurt the team. Smid is a good defensive defenseman but the salary is a little close to make hat trade make sense. The guy I would want is Jeff Petry. He is a big right handed defenseman who can move the puck a bit who has played big minutes for Edmonton the last two plus years. He is not a top pair guy, for which Edmonton was using him last year, but would be a very good 2nd pair guy and has room to grow. He only has a 1.75 cap hit too. It would have to be Petry plus but I thinks it could be a good deal for the Flyers.

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Any defenseman leading your team in TOI is going to be worth at least 4.50m.

He probably will lead us in TOI again this year, but he'll have a capable partner for a change.

Every year that Coburn has excelled, he's been paired with somebody who can take some responsibilities away from him. Streit does just that.
Well I'm sure the reason Coburn was floated was because the Flyers could actually get value for him. Meszaros has none and now the Flyers need to shed money.

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I pretty much said that was their plan as of yesterday.

But I've been saying that it should be their plan since the offseason started.

I swear to god, Holmgren's stalking me on HFBoards. Everything I've told him to do he's basically done. Well, the Lecavalier thing was his own idea, but it accomplished basically what I wanted done in a much better way since now we don't have to use Laughton as a 3rd line center and we can let him develop on the 4th.

Mad props to Holmgren for actually listening to HFBoards this year.
I'm starting to believe in a god. I've prayed so hard for this offseason to be a smart one, and it has been so far. Commit to Schenn at LW (either with G or Cavy. Not a bad option anywhere) and let it all work out.

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I'm looking forward to Schenn just going out and thinking offense like all the time.

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