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06-01-2013, 05:01 PM
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Jakub Voracek to Vancouver

Love Voracek. What is Philly's asking price? Edler +?

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06-01-2013, 05:03 PM
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We aren't trading Edler+ for Voracek. We shouldn't be trading Edler at all.

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Love Voracek. What is Philly's asking price? Edler +?
Yup. But get ready for cries of "untouchable." He's not though. No one is.

The + should be someone decent as well, a good young player.

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We aren't trading Edler+ for Voracek. We shouldn't be trading Edler at all.
But Vancouver is in desperate need of a Top 6 RW and Ballard could replace Edler.

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But Vancouver is in desperate need of a Top 6 RW and Ballard could replace Edler.
We can acquire a top-6 winger without giving up Edler, and Ballard in all likelihood will be bought out. Even if he weren't, he would still be an enormous downgrade.

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But Vancouver is in desperate need of a Top 6 RW and Ballard could replace Edler.
...what?

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But Vancouver is in desperate need of a Top 6 RW and Ballard could replace Edler.
O rly?

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We can acquire a top-6 winger without giving up Edler, and Ballard in all likelihood will be bought out. Even if he weren't, he would still be an enormous downgrade.
Yes, however Vancouver doesn't have alot of cap space and Edler's 5 million could free up space for Voracek. JV is also better than any free agent winger this summer.

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How about we just do Ballard for Voracek then?

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Meh I'd rather just move Edler for Ryan.

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...what?
Edler isn't much better than Ballard defensively and Ballard is cheaper. Edler's NTC comes up in a month and we should trade him while his value is high.

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It would have to be Edler.

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Meh I'd rather just move Edler for Ryan.
Voracek > Ryan. Im probably the biggest Bobby Ryan fan too, but Voracek is the more complete, better player.

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JV is not worth more than edler.. Sorry

He is a good young talent. He is a top 25 winger.. maybe even 30.

Edler is a top 15-20 dman.

Dman > winger

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Meh I'd rather just move Edler for Ryan.
Voracek is younger, cheaper, and probably better...

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Voracek is younger, cheaper, and probably better...
Ryan is bigger and RH both what van needs

Is JV RH?

RH is a big key for van

if JV is RH id have interest because Id prefer not to play edler 8x a year

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But Vancouver is in desperate need of a Top 6 RW and Ballard could replace Edler.
Lolwut? Ballard can't even come close to replacing Edler.

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Canucks would have to give up more than Edler for Voracek.........Voracek is better than Ryan.

I think the Nucks are one of the teams that can take the hit by losing an Edler, they have a good back-end with Hamhuis, Garrison, etc.

However, I don't think they need to make this deal. I don't think they break bank unless it's a move that takes them over the top.

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Not a chance that we'd trade Edler for JV straight up let alone add

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Not a chance that we'd trade Edler for JV straight up let alone add
But most of your fan base agrees to trading him straight up for Ryan, who isnt as good of a player as Voracek? Keep laughing, your value of each player is skewed.

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But most of your fan base agrees to trading him straight up for Ryan, who isnt as good of a player as Voracek? Keep laughing, your value of each player is skewed.
I wouldn't trade Edler for either. It's a lot harder to find a #1 dman than a first line winger.

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I wouldn't trade Edler for either. It's a lot harder to find a #1 dman than a first line winger.
I dont think Edler is a #1 dman yet, but I know what you mean.


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But most of your fan base agrees to trading him straight up for Ryan, who isnt as good of a player as Voracek? Keep laughing, your value of each player is skewed.
Most of the world also thought the earth was flat. How did that work out for them?

JV is a 4.5M winger who has broken 50 points ONCE. Sorry we just went down this road with Booth. Edler is a #1B Dman who consistently puts up 40+ points and is on a fantastic contract. Edler is far and away worth more than that.

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Most of the world also thought the earth was flat. How did that work out for them?

JV is a 4.5M winger who has broken 50 points ONCE. Sorry we just went down this road with Booth. Edler is a #1B Dman who consistently puts up 40+ points and is on a fantastic contract. Edler is far and away worth more than that.
And was on pace for 79 points this season in 82 games. Hes also only 24 years old.


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Again with all the insults.

JV has to prove more to be considered a legit first liner. He has had 1.5 good years.
He could be a legit PPG player or settle in at .75 PPG

I like Ryan because of his size.. has played with Kesler.. and has put up numbers on a consistent basis for 3-4 years.

You have to give to get.

Edler for either player helps vans scoring and gives them another legit top 6. IMO he needs to be RH for it to work. We have hammer and garrison on the Left with Bieska and tanev on the right. So we lose some depth from a position of strength to help are problems up front.

Does it really matter if JV ends up a .82 ppg or edler is a #1.2 or 1.7 d man?

No they are both great assets.

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