Explain the precedent that it sets, and then maybe we can get on the same page.
You show potential, we'll match the market price?
BTW if we really want to compare Leddy's contract with Spurgeon, you got to remember Leddy was making a ton more than Spurgeon. Around 1.17 million compared to Spurgeon getting 540K. The jump for Leddy from 1.17 to 2.7 isn't as huge as Spurgeon going from 540K to 2.66 million. If anything I still see Raphael Diaz's contract as a better equivalent than Leddy, maybe a tad bit more for Spurgeon due his potential.
And Kuba was our #1 defenseman for years. Also Gilbert was our number 1 defenseman for stretches at a time. His durability has me a bit concerned (he has a few injuries the past few seasons).
The contract is bad when you are pushing up against the cap. Spurgeon hasn't shown enough to warrant a big contract yet. I mean if that's the case, should we give Brodin 6 million? Zucker 4-5 million? Spurgeon was a cost-controlled player. He wasn't going to hit free agency if we didn't sign him back immediately. So why didn't Fletcher push for a discount and tell Spurgeon to prove it? Show that you can be a healthy top 4 defenseman these next two years and then we'll talk about a very large extension.
We're in a poor position cap-wise because of other decisions. Our forward group is making far too high % of our cap to be a middling group. Our 4th line wingers are slated to make basically what our 2nd d pairing will make with this "albatross" contract.
There was a time when 2nd contracts were smaller but that time has passed. They aren't UFA value mostly, but they are bigger than they were. People praised Fletcher for his Clutterbuck extension 3 years ago when he was a 3rd line winger for 1.4M, but now he's an idiot for giving a top-4 d-man 2.66M?
Right now I'd say Brodin is lining himself up for a nice payday on his 2nd contract, and if he's a #2 d-man, that's perfectly fine. Zucker doesn't warrant anything at this point really, he hasn't even established himself as a full-time NHLer. By comparison, Devin Setoguchi had 60+ NHL goals in 3 seasons and got 1.8M on his 2nd deal(1-year), before signing his 3/9M as a RFA coming off a 22g season.
As for what Spurgeon's next contract is, who knows. Who knows what the cap will be and if we'll improve the D to the point that he's not needed in the top-4.
Originally Posted by State of Hockey
Correct. A little bit here and a little bit there makes the difference between still having Tom Gilbert on defense versus a Clayton Stoner. Case in point this offseason how it adds up.
Except Jared Spurgeon isn't the reason we bought out Tom Gilbert. Tom Gilbert himself is the main reason he was bought out, though was required because we have many overpaid forwards on this roster, though none to the extent Gilbert was overpaid.
Didn't think Spurgeon had that much of leverage honestly.
That's just the things tho..... The players do NOT have that much leverage this off-season. They just agreed to a CBA that gives them a smaller piece of the pie. The players will have to bite the bullet and sign smaller contracts until the cap gets back up to $70+ million (which could be just a few years if the NHL continues solid growth)
IMO, neither Cooke nor Spurgeon should have gotten more than Torrey Mitchell did last off-season.