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[ANA/OTT] Bobby Ryan for Jakob Silfverberg, Stefan Noesen, 1st round pick (2014)

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07-05-2013, 03:12 PM
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I'm guessing Noesen isn't NHL ready. How about Silvferberg, will he push for roster spot or is he a year away?
He has been in the NHL since the playoffs a year ago. He is a top-9 roster player without much question.

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I'm guessing Noesen isn't NHL ready. How about Silvferberg, will he push for roster spot or is he a year away?
He played in the NHL last year for Ottawa so I assume he's ready.

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I keep reading good 2 way player with Silfverberg (that "f' in the middle is going to be a pain to type haha). So Pahlsson + hands is what we're looking at?
He has been extremely effective in SEL playoffs.

Clutch, leadership. Not a defensive stalwart in Pahlsson territory but solid.

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Silf is a left winger who shoots left, he'd be my first choice to play with the twins, put Palms on his natural wing on the second line.

Anyways, I like the return, I think Silf will provide most of the scoring we lost with Ryan, as well as end up a better fit with the twins because of the fact that he shoots left and plays with more jam. Noesen and the first are both extremely nice assets that will either become good players for us, or can be used in a trade to acquire something we're missing.

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^Silf is actually a righty.

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07-05-2013, 03:19 PM
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Really thought we would have traded him for players that can help the team right away, all the players and management seemed to think we were close to being a contender again.

If this is a for salary cap room why? Hiller makes 1 million less. I'm pretty sad about this trade. It feels like the summer we traded Pronger to make room sign that "2C". I said all summer long we would be better with Ebbet and Pronger than Koivu, and I think that statement still is true.

If we don't make a splash for another big forward than I just don't understand how this helps the team next season.

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07-05-2013, 03:20 PM
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Sens fan here. Giving you a heads up of what you got in return for Ryan:

Silfverberg: Excellent 2-way player. Had a better rookie year than Zibanejad, but he is 2 years older. He`s definitely a top 6 player, but still not sure if he can pan out as a legit top 3. He doesn't have top speed or top puck handling abilities, but when he's on ice, you'll notice how he works hard. He kind of reminds me of a younger version of Alfie.

Noesen: Murray once compared him to Perry, but I personally think the comparisons end there. Still too early to tell what potential Noesen has.

A lot of Ottawa fans are complaining right now about losing Silfverberg, even if we acquired Ryan. That says a lot about how Silfverberg plays!

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^Silf is actually a righty.
Damn, I thought he shot left. That sucks, I'm not quite as happy now.

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The only problem with Silf, glaring, actually, is his lack of NHL speed. That is one thing, though, that he can improve on. If he put in the work he will score 30 every year. Good trade both sides.
Ryan falls down all the time and can barely skate but still scores 30!

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07-05-2013, 03:23 PM
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Search for silfverberg on youtube and you will find his nhl goals too very good kid!
That release is just ridiculous. It reminds me a little bit of Selanne, in that there is no real load-up and it just explodes off the stick.

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Depth scoring on this team could be really good...

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I'm guessing Noesen isn't NHL ready. How about Silvferberg, will he push for roster spot or is he a year away?
If Silfverberg doesn't score at least 20 goals next year I'll be shocked.

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You guys are going to love Silf. Good size and speed - his biggest asset though is his shot... It's an absolute bullet. Go look at his shootout goal against Lundquist this past year.

When I heard Ryan was coming to Ottawa my initial reaction was "Awesome - so long as we don't give up Zibanejad or Silfverberg". I think I'll become ok with it over time though... But Silf is a real raw young talent who is only going to get better.

Good trade for both sides I think.

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One thing this team needs more is players that give everything on the ice, on every shift. So welcome Silfverberg!

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07-05-2013, 03:27 PM
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Let me just say this. In Silfverberg's last year in the Swedish league. His team was winning 3-0 in the finals and he scored 2 goals and hit the post in overtime shot which almost got the team a sweep and hattrick to end it yet he still scored game winner in game 6. He is an amazing player.

He was compared to Forsberg in those playoffs because his dominance was unheard of for a while. He is also the youngest to win MVP since Forsberg.

His potential is incredibly high. His release is also best in the league, imo.

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07-05-2013, 03:29 PM
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I remember in the 2011 draft, you guys really loved Noesen, so it doesn't surprise me he was included in the deal.

Noesen is going to be a good one. He's big, strong, gritty, competitive and has the talent to put up points at the NHL level. Should become one of the better forwards in front of the net in terms of tipping shots, and could carve out a niche as a complimentary power winger to a skilled 2nd line center.

EDIT: Don't buy into the hype some Sens fans will try to sell to you about Silfverberg. He's not that special, could be a good 2nd line winger for a long time, but is not Forsberg, Alfie, Eriksson or anything of the sort.

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if silf's most glaring weakness is his skating that i feel ok about that.
we seem to be able to improve the skating ability of players.

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I'm loving this trade the more I hear about these two players we received. I'll miss Bobby though, but at least I can root for Ottawa big time now Alfy is out of there.

We definitely are signing some now, praying it's Grabo over Roy.

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I'm disappointed we did not get a more NHL proven return. That said it sounds like if we were going more towards youth then this package is looking pretty good.

From the reports I read here Silf may be the exact replacement I previously said could be an upgrade over Bobby. That is, a few less goals but a better two way and all around player who perhaps helps bring out more in his teammates because of his play.

Wonder if Noesen will make it out for the public sessions tomorrow and/or Sunday?

Oh, and the best part of this deal? It's not with Philly! WAAAAA! WAAAAA! "Coburn and the 11th is way better than what you got!" WAAAAA! WAAAAA!

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07-05-2013, 03:38 PM
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No clue how to feel about this. I know Bobby is gonna go out and score 40 this year.

Our top 6 is going to be so young this year unless we sign someone like Grabo.

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No clue how to feel about this. I know Bobby is gonna go out and score 40 this year.

Our top 6 is going to be so young this year unless we sign someone like Grabo.
Why is it an issue that they're young? They're not rookies and defensively they're some of our more responsible players (excluding Palms).

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Ehhh. You knew he was gone after the Getzlaf Perry extensions. Had to get value for him while it was still there, as there was no chance he re-signed here. 3 first round picks? That's good value.

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We traded Ryan, but we didn't just eliminate 29 other teams from the league. It doesn't just come down to our choice between Roy/Grabo. Just to keep in mind.

Either on a decent deal would be cool to pull off.

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I'm hoping we sign Grabo but I know we won't. I bet we'll end up with Roy, if anything. Which will upset me.

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Crap. My prospect rankings. Shot.

Totally gutted right now, guise, seriously.

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