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12-14-2013, 10:31 AM
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They could have recalled someone other than Liles but didn't.
Loiselle said Liles is the best defenseman not playing in the NHL right now. Does that include the KHL, SHL, etc., or just the AHL.

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Loiselle said Liles is the best defenseman not playing in the NHL right now. Does that include the KHL, SHL, etc., or just the AHL.
TBH for the most part he's the best defender not playing anywhere ...

You always pump up your assets as a GM.

Maybe this is another Carlyle situation?

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Hope we sign Dane Fox. He seems to be pretty good playing with Conor Brown.

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12-15-2013, 08:53 AM
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Couple thoughts from the Hamilton game that I forgot to post yesterday -

Holzer/Devane were out of the lineup. Not sure if injury/scratch. Devanes case most likely the casualty of a healthy scratch because Mike Duco returned from Orlando (he was sidelined with injury, went to Orlando for a short conditioning stint).

Holzer was replaced by Dylan Yeo, who actually played really well. He sort of replaces the style of game that Liles had on the team.

(Ryan, McKegg both as far as I know rehabbing from injuries. MacLeod was also a scratch).

Lines:

Leivo - Carrick - Abbott
Broll - - Nagy - Bodie
Ross - Smithson - Biggs
Duco - Crescenzi - Staubitz

MacWilliam - Granberg
Brennan - Marshall
Percy - Yeo

MacIntyre
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PP Unit:

Ross - Leivo - Abbott
Percy - Brennan

Broll - Carrick - Bodie
Yeo - Marshall

PK Unit:

Smithson - Crescenzi
MacWilliam - Granberg

Carrick - Bodie
Yeo - Marshall

Also rotated Biggs in at times on the PK. I'm sure Percy/Brennan played parts too.

Thoughts:

Ross and Biggs both had their stronger games of the season. Aside from the scoresheet, they were both noticeable on the ice. Good checking, and kept their feet moving all game which made them factors. They teamed up for a beautiful goal. Biggs fed a cross zone pass from the boards to Ross sitting at the side of the net to tap it home. Should have had another one later in the game, they almost connected again when Ross fed a 2-on-1 pass to Biggs, but Biggs was on his backhand and wasn't able to direct it home. Ross showed good jump and physical play, Blunden went after him at one point which I'm sure had to do with Ross being his rat self. Had a disciplined game too; sort of like Komarov use to draw the ire of opponents (played physical/hard).

For the most part, Biggs didn't get a ton of special teams time. Gets 0 power play time, and is seen primarily as a defensive forward by the coaching staff. I don't necessarily agree with that. I don't know why they continue to pigeon hole him even if he's not going to be a scorer at the next level. He should be given some PP to mature his skills infront of the net. Broll sees PP time (or Bodie), I don't see why Biggs can't from time to time especially with the current lineup. For the criticism Biggs takes all the time, you can tell he's starting to get accustomed to the pro game. Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part, but I think he'll have a better 2nd half to his season if he ever gets into more offensive situations.

Levio was OK after his stint on the sidelines. Had some nice flashes, wasn't noticeably dominant as I've seen in other games (which is fine). Abbott had a nice goal in tight. I think he should get a shot with the Leafs if a scorer goes down. I think the big thing aside from his size hindering him is his skating. He's not the fastest guy, and he tends to stop moving his feet at times. Sort of like a lesser skilled version of Wellwood. He uses his vision to create a lot of the time. I can see why there are reservations about calling that type of player up in a bottom-six role.

Percy and Granberg were impressive. Percy had a bit of a gaff on the first goal as a result of a bad bounce/bad decision. He's an impressive player for a rookie. I say this all the time, but he has ice in his veins. It almost makes me gitty how well he escapes plays. He's not a fast player in the Rielly/Gardiner mold, but he always seems to slip by guys when you think he has no way out. Extremely confident puck mover. His first pass/passing in general is very strong. Granberg is starting to develop a bit of that in his game too. Where he handled the puck like a grenade earlier in the year, he's starting to become more smoother/confident. He's timing his hits a lot better and rarely (do I find) gets beaten/exposed off the rush. Think of a more physical Gunnarsson, which is exactly the type of player the Leafs need right now oddly. He also has a great stickcheck. Always seems to get the last ditch touch on the puck when trying to get it pushed up the boards past/through scrums. Both just need to continue maturing really, I think as they gain more experience they'll just be even better. Adding an extra gear would be beneficial, but should also come with time/training.

If Leivo is the only forward prospect to be excited about with the Marlies, then these two would be the defenseman to pay attention to.

MacWilliam played well too. I imagine he would play a depth role at the NHL right now if they wanted him to. I hold him to a lesser light because he's almost 24, but he could probably be as good or better then what Fraser has shown this year. With Liles up with the Leafs, Granberg has joined him as a defensive/shutdown pairing.

Duco - Crescenzi - Staubitz actually had really good zone time all game. They worked the cycle very well and caused Hamilton D some issues on the forecheck.

Marlies back at it today @ 3:00pm vs. St. Johns.

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12-15-2013, 10:24 AM
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Thanks for the update JE ... Good to hear about the kids in detail

I have the same hopes for Biggs, sounds like he's had a few solid games in the last while .. Perhaps he'll start to earn some PP time if he keeps playing well

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12-15-2013, 10:26 AM
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12-15-2013, 01:24 PM
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Percy and Granberg were impressive. Percy had a bit of a gaff on the first goal as a result of a bad bounce/bad decision. He's an impressive player for a rookie. I say this all the time, but he has ice in his veins. It almost makes me gitty how well he escapes plays. He's not a fast player in the Rielly/Gardiner mold, but he always seems to slip by guys when you think he has no way out. Extremely confident puck mover. His first pass/passing in general is very strong.
Percy will be even better in the NHL where forwards are generally in better position to receive his passes.

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12-15-2013, 04:46 PM
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Marlies win again 3-2. Ross, Ashton and Broll with the goals. Marlies lost Abbott to an injury in the first period though

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12-15-2013, 09:22 PM
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Marlies

C P.Holland (22): 10gms, 5gls, 9pts (82gms, 41gls, 74pts)
W T.Smith (28): 7gms, 4gls, 12pts (82gms, 47gls, 141pts)
W T.Bodie (28): 9gms, 3gls, 4pts (82gms, 27gls, 36pts)
W J.D'Amigo (22): 19gms, 5gls, 8pts (82gms, 22gls, 35pts)


C G.McKegg (21): 18gms, 5gls, 10pts (82gms, 23gls, 46pts)
W C.Ashton (22): 5gms, 4gls, 6pts (82gms, 66gls, 98pts)
W S.Abbott (25): 23gms, 4gls, 25pts (82gms, 14gls, 89pts)

C S.Carrick (21): 24gms, 3gls, 10pts (82gms, 10gls, 34pts)
W J.Leivo (20): 20gms, 5gls, 12pts (82gms, 21gls, 49pts)
W K.Nagy (24): 10gms, 1gls, 5pts (82gms, 8gls, 41pts)

C J.Smithson (34): 10gms, 1gls, 2pts (82gms, 8gls, 16pts)
W D.Broll (20): 22gms, 2gls, 7pts (82gms, 8gls, 26pts)
W B.Ross (21): 20gms, 3gls, 4pts (82gms, 12gls, 16pts)

C A.Crescenzi (21): 22gms, 0gls, 1pts (82gms, 0gls, 4pts)
W T.Biggs (20): 23gms, 2gls, 3pts (82gms, 7gls, 11pts)
W J.Devane (22): 16gms, 1gls, 2pts (82gms, 5gls, 10pts)

C K.Ryan (22): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)
W B.Staubitz (29): 16gms, 0gls, 2pts (82gms, 0gls, 10pts)



D J.Liles (33): 16gms, 3gls, 13pts (82gms, 15gls, 67pts)

D T.Brennan (24): 24gms, 12gls, 25pts (82gms, 41gls, 85pts)
D S.Percy (20): 22gms, 0gls, 6pts (82gms, 0gls, 22pts)

D K.Holzer (25): 23gms, 2gls, 6pts (82gms, 7gls, 21pts)
D K.Marshall (24): 12gms, 0gls, 3pts (82gms, 0gls, 21pts)

D A.MacWilliam (23): 17gms, 0gls, 2pts (82gms, 0gls, 10pts)
D P.Granberg (21): 23gms, 1gls, 2pts (82gms, 4gls, 7pts)

D D.Yeo (27): 4gms, 0gls, 1pts (82gms, 0gls, 21pts)



G C.Gibson (21): 2gms, 1-1-0, 2.02gaa, 0so, .932sv%
G D.MacIntyre (30): 19gms, 13-6-0, 2.20gaa, 0so, .917sv%
G G.Sparks (20): 3gms, 0-3-0, 4.10gaa, 0so, .848sv%

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12-15-2013, 09:28 PM
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Marlies

C P.Holland (22): 10gms, 5gls, 9pts (82gms, 41gls, 74pts)
W T.Smith (28): 7gms, 4gls, 12pts (82gms, 47gls, 141pts)
W T.Bodie (28): 9gms, 3gls, 4pts (82gms, 27gls, 36pts)
W J.D'Amigo (22): 19gms, 5gls, 8pts (82gms, 22gls, 35pts)


C G.McKegg (21): 18gms, 5gls, 10pts (82gms, 23gls, 46pts)
W C.Ashton (22): 5gms, 4gls, 6pts (82gms, 66gls, 98pts)
W S.Abbott (25): 23gms, 4gls, 25pts (82gms, 14gls, 89pts)

C S.Carrick (21): 24gms, 3gls, 10pts (82gms, 10gls, 34pts)
W J.Leivo (20): 20gms, 5gls, 12pts (82gms, 21gls, 49pts)
W K.Nagy (24): 10gms, 1gls, 5pts (82gms, 8gls, 41pts)

C J.Smithson (34): 10gms, 1gls, 2pts (82gms, 8gls, 16pts)
W D.Broll (20): 22gms, 2gls, 7pts (82gms, 8gls, 26pts)
W B.Ross (21): 20gms, 3gls, 4pts (82gms, 12gls, 16pts)

C A.Crescenzi (21): 22gms, 0gls, 1pts (82gms, 0gls, 4pts)
W T.Biggs (20): 23gms, 2gls, 3pts (82gms, 7gls, 11pts)
W J.Devane (22): 16gms, 1gls, 2pts (82gms, 5gls, 10pts)

C K.Ryan (22): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)
W B.Staubitz (29): 16gms, 0gls, 2pts (82gms, 0gls, 10pts)



D J.Liles (33): 16gms, 3gls, 13pts (82gms, 15gls, 67pts)

D T.Brennan (24): 24gms, 12gls, 25pts (82gms, 41gls, 85pts)
D S.Percy (20): 22gms, 0gls, 6pts (82gms, 0gls, 22pts)

D K.Holzer (25): 23gms, 2gls, 6pts (82gms, 7gls, 21pts)
D K.Marshall (24): 12gms, 0gls, 3pts (82gms, 0gls, 21pts)

D A.MacWilliam (23): 17gms, 0gls, 2pts (82gms, 0gls, 10pts)
D P.Granberg (21): 23gms, 1gls, 2pts (82gms, 4gls, 7pts)

D D.Yeo (27): 4gms, 0gls, 1pts (82gms, 0gls, 21pts)



G C.Gibson (21): 2gms, 1-1-0, 2.02gaa, 0so, .932sv%
G D.MacIntyre (30): 19gms, 13-6-0, 2.20gaa, 0so, .917sv%
G G.Sparks (20): 3gms, 0-3-0, 4.10gaa, 0so, .848sv%
Looking good. I can't wait until we move some of our bottom 6 forwards to make some room for the new guys.

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12-16-2013, 08:33 AM
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Marlies win again 3-2. Ross, Ashton and Broll with the goals. Marlies lost Abbott to an injury in the first period though
On the whole, a pretty poor effort IMO. Very sloppy on the Marlies part. Leivo and Ashton stood out for me. Granberg had a rough night I thought. Losing Abbott hurt, and I hope he's not out long for offensive sake. Ashton's goal was a beauty, but I think it also speaks to the AHL vs. NHL game. He probably doesn't have that much time to get the shot off at the NHL level on that type of play. It was one of those pull back, snap (boomerang type) shots.

I'll take the W against a tough St John team though.

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Ross is starting to turn it around I see. Seems to have a bit more of an impact at least.

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Hope we sign Dane Fox. He seems to be pretty good playing with Conor Brown.
I would take a look at signing him this off-season. I'm pretty sure he is a Free Agent.
Good project. At very least he would provide the Marlies with some scoring and grit. His skating has always been the concern, but that can be improved upon.

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Ross is starting to turn it around I see. Seems to have a bit more of an impact at least.
Would be great to see this prospect start to figure it out yeah.

If he could be like a wee Komarov would be awesome!

One of my favourite prospects, but is he running out of time?

This season & next to prove otherwise - believe D'Amigo was in the same boat in that this is his 3rd/final year of pro.

Is a 3 yr trajectory about right for a bottom-6 player? We certainly do seem to have an abundance of them. Ross, Carrick, Devane, Broll, Ashton, Biggs...

Will be very interesting to see h=who we retain beyond their entry level contracts.

Crecenzi bound to be history unless he shows WAY more, especially when the Goat Man Frederic appears in 2015/16

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Ashton produces and plays well in ahl, nhl he plays well, but doesnt produce. John eric made a good point. However ashton should be on third line in NHL. Like the role D amigo was given
Brad ross is producing a little now which is good

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Our toughness was overrated since last season. Only the heavyweights did the fighting and they're on the bench most of the time. Our team is more the gritty kind. I look forward to the inclusion of skill players that can drop em and log decent minutes.

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Marlies up 1-0 so far on Rochester. Ashton with the PPG

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Marlies up 1-0 so far on Rochester. Ashton with the PPG
2-1 loss in shootout.

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2-1 loss in shootout.
Yea damn I just checked the score. Curse Zigomanis!

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Spencer Abbott is surprising me. Is he that good?

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Spencer Abbott is surprising me. Is he that good?
AHL star, likely not a NHL player though.

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AHL star, likely not a NHL player though.
Too early to say considering he hasn't had a chance to show his game in the NHL yet.

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Too early to say considering he hasn't had a chance to show his game in the NHL yet.
He's had a NHL game where he was barely noticeable and was a -2. He's had a couple preseason games as well where he didn't really show much of anything. The sample size is very small, I definitely agree.

I'm not saying he's completely done as a NHL prospect but considering his age, size and what he's shown against NHL players, I think it's safe to say that the chances are very slim.

I like him though. Probably one of my favorite players on the Marlies. He works hard and he is talented. Perhaps I'm being harsh but I just don't see NHL potential in him. I do hope he can stay longer so that he can perhaps become a leader for the Marlies with the odd NHL callup.

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Too early to say considering he hasn't had a chance to show his game in the NHL yet.
I like him for the NHL. I'm just not sure where he fits on the spectrum between Aucoin and St. Louis. He'll put up points in the NHL for sure with those great hands. Dunno how his defense will translate among other things, but i'd like to see how it turns out.

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Abbott isn't a particularly dynamic skater, a least not at the level that would be required for him to compensate for his size at the NHL level

Also i don't think he has a strong shot either, he's more of a pure playmaker

It's something that he could improve for sure though, I wouldn't mind hanging on to the kid

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