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[MIN] Wild sign Matt Cooke (3 years, $2.5MM AAV)

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07-07-2013, 12:43 PM
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i've been through several stages of grief since the signing and now i'm okay with it.

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07-07-2013, 03:08 PM
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People on this forum are brutal. The guys been a clean player for the last 2 years, forgive and forget..
Letís get something straightÖ

Cooke has calmed down over the last couple of years, but it isnít because heís ďreformedĒ. I mean itís not like he went to a therapist and got some much needed psychiatric help.
He was simply told; stop the B.S. or youíre out.

When youíre in your adult age, and you donít understand that your actions literally almost crippled other human beings, youíre never going to get it.

Itís too late for change, now heís in control mode.

And thatís the messed up part about CookeÖheís has to stop and think before deciding, ďshould I cripple or shouldnít I.Ē

So please people, stop this ďheís a changed manĒ crap.

As for the forgive or forget, easy to say when itís not your career he ruined.


I just feel sorry for his kids.

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07-07-2013, 03:16 PM
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Letís get something straightÖ

Cooke has calmed down over the last couple of years, but it isnít because heís ďreformedĒ. I mean itís not like he went to a therapist and got some much needed psychiatric help.
He was simply told; stop the B.S. or youíre out.

When youíre in your adult age, and you donít understand that your actions literally almost crippled other human beings, youíre never going to get it.

Itís too late for change, now heís in control mode.

And thatís the messed up part about CookeÖheís has to stop and think before deciding, ďshould I cripple or shouldnít I.Ē

So please people, stop this ďheís a changed manĒ crap.

As for the forgive or forget, easy to say when itís not your career he ruined.


I just feel sorry for his kids.
oh well isn't that touching...

you have no clue how he is as a person outside of hockey, so drop the act of concern for his family. it would be like me saying "Marchand/Bertuzzi/Scott Stevens would be an absolutely terrible father."

if it's that hard for you to separate someone's on-ice personality from their off-ice personality, then you probably shouldn't be the one feigning concern for that someone's family.

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07-07-2013, 03:17 PM
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Pretty decent replacement of Clutterbuck. I wouldn't be happy as a Minnesota fan, but he's an effective player and if he plays clean it'll be a good signing.

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07-07-2013, 03:32 PM
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oh well isn't that touching...

you have no clue how he is as a person outside of hockey, so drop the act of concern for his family. it would be like me saying "Marchand/Bertuzzi/Scott Stevens would be an absolutely terrible father."

if it's that hard for you to separate someone's on-ice personality from their off-ice personality, then you probably shouldn't be the one feigning concern for that someone's family.
Letís talk about his off ice personality for a momentÖ

I canít remember ever hearing of a player confronting a senior citizen after a game, because he didnít like what he said about him, can you?

But youíre right, who am I to judge.

Personally, Iím glad my dad never INTENTIONALLY ruined someoneís life for nothing.

But thatís just me.

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07-07-2013, 04:42 PM
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Letís talk about his off ice personality for a momentÖ

I canít remember ever hearing of a player confronting a senior citizen after a game, because he didnít like what he said about him, can you?

But youíre right, who am I to judge.

Personally, Iím glad my dad never INTENTIONALLY ruined someoneís life for nothing.

But thatís just me.
Serious question: how long have you been watching hockey? If you have been watching for a while, and have likely seen a number of guys' careers derailed from hits, questionable or otherwise, what distinguishes Matt Cooke from the rest of his ilk who have ben playing the game, like, forever?

I find the drama and the frothy, hyperventilating, faux indignation a little over the top and borderline disingenuous. I get it if you're a Boston fan, fanning Cooke hate is a cottage industry there, but for others, it just seems weird to me.

Anyway, he's a very useful player who happens to be a tool. The league is loaded with 'em.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's Mario going to say when Cooke severs Sid throats with a karate kick in a corner.....

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07-07-2013, 04:52 PM
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Good signing. Was hoping for the leafs to grab him. Hope he can keep his game in check and play some good hockey for you guys! You should all be excited to have this guy on your team!

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07-07-2013, 05:04 PM
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Serious question: how long have you been watching hockey? If you have been watching for a while, and have likely seen a number of guys' careers derailed from hits, questionable or otherwise, what distinguishes Matt Cooke from the rest of his ilk who have ben playing the game, like, forever?

I find the drama and the frothy, hyperventilating, faux indignation a little over the top and borderline disingenuous. I get it if you're a Boston fan, fanning Cooke hate is a cottage industry there, but for others, it just seems weird to me.

Anyway, he's a very useful player who happens to be a tool. The league is loaded with 'em.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's Mario going to say when Cooke severs Sid throats with a karate kick in a corner.....

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"I find the drama and the frothy, hyperventilating, faux indignation a little over the top and borderline disingenuous."

From your lips to Crosby and Lemieux's ears.

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07-07-2013, 05:06 PM
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"I find the drama and the frothy, hyperventilating, faux indignation a little over the top and borderline disingenuous."

From your lips to Crosby and Lemieux's ears.
thanks for that very important contribution to the discussion.

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07-07-2013, 05:12 PM
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The day will come I predict that I come to hate the Minnesota Wild and Matt Cooke will be a part of that.

I suppose that's one way of saying this is a good signing for them.

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07-07-2013, 05:18 PM
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Yeah, the misconduct that was bought by a guy playing dead.
Now what if he were dead? or been wheeled off to the hospital?--would Cooke have deserved that misconduct then?

Thinking about it--it's too bad Cooke didn't sign with my team--the Rangers. I would really look forward to games between your team and mine then. I'd be all ready with all kinds of pithy remarks such as--'It was an accident!'--'nothing more than a 2 minute penalty'--'that guy was faking'--'he's a really good guy-he gives to charities'--'best third line winger in the game'--'you don't know what he's really like'--'he's cleaned up his act'--'look he only missed a couple shifts-then I'm not sure what happened to him-but he did come back for a minute or two'--all kinds of **** like that.

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07-07-2013, 05:19 PM
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Going to be sweet to see him get a season long suspension sometime during this deal. He doesn't have Super Mario protecting him anymore. Eff Matt Cooke
I wonder what players in the West cooke will attack first ? Watch your heads and knees.

Oh...Sid...you have to play them too. Keep your head up because cooke will be looking for you.

cooke should have been thrown out of the NHL a long time ago.

Oh...and he has not reformed...Just ask Karlsson....accident...yeah sure. cooke has too many accidents.


I am happy he is no longer in the East.

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07-07-2013, 05:20 PM
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Matt Cooke is raw. That fool makes some questionable hits sometimes but the dude can play.

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07-07-2013, 05:34 PM
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Serious question: how long have you been watching hockey? If you have been watching for a while, and have likely seen a number of guys' careers derailed from hits, questionable or otherwise, what distinguishes Matt Cooke from the rest of his ilk who have ben playing the game, like, forever?

I find the drama and the frothy, hyperventilating, faux indignation a little over the top and borderline disingenuous. I get it if you're a Boston fan, fanning Cooke hate is a cottage industry there, but for others, it just seems weird to me.

Anyway, he's a very useful player who happens to be a tool. The league is loaded with 'em.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's Mario going to say when Cooke severs Sid throats with a karate kick in a corner.....
Iíve been a hockey fan for over 30 years. So I know Cooke ainít the first, nor will he be the last.

Is Cooke the dirtiest player in history, of course not. And I never stated that.
Is he a dirty player, YES HE IS.

Iíve never started any drama on this site.

My attitude on this whole subject is a very simple one: kids make mistakes, no matter how big, they should be forgiven, itís part of the growing process. Adults make mistakes too, but they should know better. And if they repeat said mistake, then itís a character issue, not a mistake.

And thatís wear my beef stems from; not his hits, but this idea that after playing more than a decade, and being in his 30ís, NOW he getís it, and heís born again, and fans should forgive and forget.

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07-07-2013, 06:22 PM
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1M too much IMO.

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07-07-2013, 06:52 PM
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Dany Heatley and now Matt Cooke? Looks like the Wild aren't going to win any popularity contests in the new division next year.

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Love the Wild Jerseys that spell out Minnesota, maybe Ill have a reason to buy one now. So man people are over reacting about this signing.

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Yeah, the misconduct that was bought by a guy playing dead.
Or a blatant high speed check from behind.

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07-07-2013, 08:03 PM
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Iíve been a hockey fan for over 30 years. So I know Cooke ainít the first, nor will he be the last.

Is Cooke the dirtiest player in history, of course not. And I never stated that.
Is he a dirty player, YES HE IS.

Iíve never started any drama on this site.

My attitude on this whole subject is a very simple one: kids make mistakes, no matter how big, they should be forgiven, itís part of the growing process. Adults make mistakes too, but they should know better. And if they repeat said mistake, then itís a character issue, not a mistake.

And thatís wear my beef stems from; not his hits, but this idea that after playing more than a decade, and being in his 30ís, NOW he getís it, and heís born again, and fans should forgive and forget.
Since you do believe that people can grow and develop, then you should agree that it is possible.

People can change and grow of all ages, not just people under 23.5.

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07-07-2013, 09:00 PM
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Since you do believe that people can grow and develop, then you should agree that it is possible.

People can change and grow of all ages, not just people under 23.5.
I can certainly agree that old dogs can learn new tricks, but weíre not talking about maturity in Cookeís case.

Think about this; someone had to tell him to stop trying to hurt people!!!

Now if I read somewhere that he entered some type of anger management program, then Iíd listen.

Mattís ďchangeĒ came down to just making sure he keeps getting a pay check.

I donít believe he learned a thing.

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07-07-2013, 09:10 PM
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I can certainly agree that old dogs can learn new tricks, but weíre not talking about maturity in Cookeís case.

Think about this; someone had to tell him to stop trying to hurt people!!!

Now if I read somewhere that he entered some type of anger management program, then Iíd listen.

Mattís ďchangeĒ came down to just making sure he keeps getting a pay check.

I donít believe he learned a thing.
Some believe different.

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It's okay to drop the gloves and try to knock a person unconcious by pounding them in the head/face with your fists, but not to make a hit during actual play that ends up getting a player hurt by a shoulder to the head. Makes sense.


This entire "no head shots" thing is a joke when players never get suspended for repeatedly punching another person in the head during a stoppage in play. Can't have your cake and eat it too, hypocrites.

The Savard hit was perfectly legal under the rules at the time. I guess anybody who has ever fought during a hockey game is a piece of trash and a horrible human being for attempting to hurt somebody for no good reason.


Cooke is a good player, he helps their team.

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07-07-2013, 09:32 PM
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Wild got a really good third liner, excellent PKer, and someone that never takes a shift off. Look past the trendy indignation from fans of a few teams. The guy has been clean for two years. As long as he keeps his head on straight he will be a very valuable player.

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Some of you take your hockey pretty seriously, no?

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