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Help Minnesota get a PP QB!

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09-28-2003, 01:38 AM
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What does Vancouver want for Brett? I hear one minute he's a top defensemen, the next Vancouver wants to ship him out.

I know Vanny needs second line help and the only thing I can see going is Laaksonen and Veilleux going over to help but that's doubtful.

And Brisebois would get creamed by Lemaire.
If Zholtok plays RW, then by all means, Sopel for Zholtok .

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09-28-2003, 05:24 AM
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How about a semi-mirror Lindros deal??

To Colorado:
Marian Gaborik

To Minnesota:
Milan Hejduk
Derek Morris

Riku Hahl
Cody McCormick
Philippe Sauve
1st/COL/04
1st/COL/05
$15,000,000

Or:

To Colorado:
Marian Gaborik

To Minnesota:
Alex Tanguay
Derek Morris
Mikhail Kuleshov
2nd/FLA/04

Holy overpay for Gaborik batman!

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09-28-2003, 06:25 AM
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I might be wrong, but with Tverdovsky and Berard unsigned, I don't see why teams would trade a PP QB, as the other GM could use the «2 are available without giving anything» argument to sweeten the deal in his favor..

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09-28-2003, 08:56 AM
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Oleg Tverdovski : Two season of 50PTS with Anaheim in 99-00 , 00-01

Bryan Berard : 10G 38A 48PTS last year

 
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09-28-2003, 12:12 PM
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I thought Oleg was going to play in Russia this year?

And uh okay...Zholtok can play almost anywhere on the ice except defense and goalie. But fair warning, the guy is old and could drop off faster then a hooker's skirt.

 
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09-29-2003, 08:11 AM
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Tarnstrom for Schultz?


Maybe Rozsival for Schultz
Schultz is one of the cornerstones of the Wild, why the hell would the Wild take mediocre guys in their late 20's for Schultz?

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09-29-2003, 08:31 AM
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What about Pavel Kubina?

With Boyle being their number 1 guy on the PP, the Lightening probably would consider a trade. I don't know what they're looking for though. I can see the Wild being a little turned off by Kubina's salary ($2.5 M). Others have mentioned Berard as a potential solution, who I think fits the bill rather nicely as well.

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09-29-2003, 08:39 AM
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Kubina might be interesting...He's young and he looks pretty good. Lemaire can shape him well but what is the Lightning looking for?

 
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09-29-2003, 08:45 AM
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09-29-2003, 10:06 AM
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Tom Poti and Garth Murray
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Willie Mitchell and Pascal Dupuis
Deal looks fair since they have yet to sign Dupuis and might not anytime soon. But would Poti work as he barely knows what D is?

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09-29-2003, 11:03 AM
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Mitchell won't be moved and Minnesota doesn't need anymore centers or forwards.

 
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09-29-2003, 11:21 AM
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Mitchell won't be moved and Minnesota doesn't need anymore centers or forwards.
Hey, gotta give to get. Poti would be a great addition to the Wild pp and Murray, I think would be a great player for a Lemaire team. And you guys move a player who the team is struggling to sign. Seems more than fair to me.

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09-29-2003, 11:29 AM
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housley's still available, but i dont know how he'd fit in minny.

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09-29-2003, 12:01 PM
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Not really Singing, we lose two guys that are important to our future and I'm not sold on Poti.

Mitchell has yet to really hit his upside and is one of the most physical defensemen on the Wild. He has top-4 capability easily and him and Schultz makes a great pair.

Murray is kind of redundant for the Wild when they have O'Sullivan, Wallin, Bouchard, Koivu, Cavanaugh, Berzins, Cavosie, and Cullen positioning for the center and then:

Gaborik, Burns, Wanvig, Foy, Veilleux, Hannula, Wallin (he can play both wing position), Dupuis as our wingers.

Murray wouldn't get any chance to go anywhere and Dupuis has more postseason experience, and better chemistry with the guys.

Simply putting it, I don't Mitchell and Dupuis for Murray and Poti makes a lot of sense except that Minnesota gets robbed a bit.

 
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09-29-2003, 12:12 PM
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Not really Singing, we lose two guys that are important to our future and I'm not sold on Poti.

Mitchell has yet to really hit his upside and is one of the most physical defensemen on the Wild. He has top-4 capability easily and him and Schultz makes a great pair.

Murray is kind of redundant for the Wild when they have O'Sullivan, Wallin, Bouchard, Koivu, Cavanaugh, Berzins, Cavosie, and Cullen positioning for the center and then:

Gaborik, Burns, Wanvig, Foy, Veilleux, Hannula, Wallin (he can play both wing position), Dupuis as our wingers.

Murray wouldn't get any chance to go anywhere and Dupuis has more postseason experience, and better chemistry with the guys.

Simply putting it, I don't Mitchell and Dupuis for Murray and Poti makes a lot of sense except that Minnesota gets robbed a bit.

That's one way of looking at it.

In Poti and Mitchell both teams swap young defenseman that provide something that both teams are lacking: the Rangers get a hard hitting, crease clearing stay at home defenseman and the Wild get a puck moving point producing defenseman who can spearhead the Wild's power play. Murray is well regarded character player who I think fits in well with the system that the Wild play. Dupuis is a holdout who I think would fit well on the Rangers third line with Holik and Lundmark.

You might not like the deal and that's cool but the Wild hardly get robbed.

Poti>Mitchell
Murray<Dupuis

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09-29-2003, 12:30 PM
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I think of it more like this:

Mitchell=Poti

Poti can't play defense but he can move the puck around. Mitchell can't move the puck around but can play very solid defense and can fight...if provoked...like a stick in your teammate's throat.

But I wouldn't do that simply because Mitchell defines Minnesota's defense.

 
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09-29-2003, 12:37 PM
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I think of it more like this:

Mitchell=Poti

Poti can't play defense but he can move the puck around. Mitchell can't move the puck around but can play very solid defense and can fight...if provoked...like a stick in your teammate's throat.

But I wouldn't do that simply because Mitchell defines Minnesota's defense.

Poti might not play defense but the rest of the team does. Mitchels can't move the puck but the rest of the team does.

Hey, you don't like the deal, you don't like the deal.

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09-29-2003, 02:34 PM
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Would this work(probobly giving one team or the other a deal)

To Minnesota
-Derrick Walser

To Columbus
-Zbynek Michalek

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09-29-2003, 03:07 PM
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Just sign someone, like Berard or Housley. Tverdovsky is no longer in the question as it is probably past the deadline for signing players that have signed in Europe.

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09-29-2003, 05:24 PM
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I don't know. I love Zbenyk and he can move the puck but by no means is an offensive weapon. I would be torn with that trade because I think Michalek has a huge upside that remains largely untapped.

Sorry but I'm looking for a forward for defensemen trade mainly.

ALSO

Berard might be an option if the Wild don't get outbid. A lot of teams have their eyes on him. Housley needs to retire and NOW.

 
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09-29-2003, 06:50 PM
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[QUOTE=thestonedkoala]I don't know. I love Zbenyk and he can move the puck but by no means is an offensive weapon. I would be torn with that trade because I think Michalek has a huge upside that remains largely untapped.

Sorry but I'm looking for a forward for defensemen trade mainly.

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Who would be available? Berzins? Irmen? Hannula?

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09-29-2003, 07:05 PM
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Two out of the three, Hannula and Berzins...

 
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09-30-2003, 04:05 AM
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You could take a gamble on Buffalo's youngster Dmitri Kalinin, I think he will show up as a great D-man with offensive production really soon. Also if Zidlicky outperforms Timonen in Nashville Timonen might be up for grabs.

 
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Looks like we got Roche, so the PP QB position is filled, at least for now.

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otherwise trade a low pick for Atlanta for last season's leading scorer in the swiss league (first defenseman to win it), Petteri Nummelin.

 
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