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07-06-2013, 03:22 PM
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I think it's kind of a charity. He's a loyal and friendly guy, Ilitch likes him.

Somebody else will step up and take Cleary's spot as soon as he gets injured. Then, next time around, Ilitch will have to buy him out, that's all; and it ain't like he ain't got it.

No major emergency.

Now, what should be done is to dump Gustavsson and bring up Mrazek. That would free up some cheese.
He'll get injured. Then be back out there the next period. He'll take a dumb penalty. Then go right back out on the ice for 45 seconds after getting out. I wouldn't be shocked if Babcock invites Cleary to the Candian Olympic tryouts again.

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07-06-2013, 03:22 PM
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Question is, does he have a NMC or a NTC. If a bum like Sammy gets a NTC, St James boy will probably get a NMC
Doesn't matter now does it? KH doesn't trade his beloved veterans. We're stuck with Cleary for 3 more years either way.

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07-06-2013, 03:23 PM
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I still think he might be re-signed to be part of a deal

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I agree that we should expect a trade for a defenseman. Even if this signing was somehow a good one (and it's not), it would be too many useful NHL-level forwards.

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07-06-2013, 03:24 PM
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I still think he might be re-signed to be part of a deal
Wishful thinking to make you feel a wee bit better?

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07-06-2013, 03:24 PM
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I...don't even know what to say. Guess I was wrong.

Off season went from good to bad. All from ONE signing.

Nyquist and Andersson better be signed and better play along with Tatar. If not Ima lose mah s***.

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07-06-2013, 03:25 PM
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someone needs to make some fire holland themed avatars for us

this is the absolute last straw for me,i'm 100% done with this guy

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07-06-2013, 03:25 PM
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Make that make sense while being cap compliant. At the very least we are sending Franzen + Tatar and some other pluses and that sucks.
Cant see Franzen moving we still need scoring, After being 20th in scoring last year I cant see us moving our top goal scorer without getting another one in return. Holland had mentioned at the draft that he might make a deal or two saying 1 for 1 deals or 2 for 1 deals or 3 for 2 deals maybe this is what he has in mind to shed players and cap.

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I think those smilies sum up how I feel about this. Holland is a moron in my book now for listening to Babcock. It's Babcock who has this obsession with Cleary.

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07-06-2013, 03:26 PM
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I like Cleary the guy, he seems like an alright dude.
I liked Cleary the hockey player, he was tough and always gave everything he had.

I hate this deal with the fire of a thousand suns. It doesn't matter if you'll give every ounce of effort if your 110% falls somewhere around everyone else's 70%.


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07-06-2013, 03:27 PM
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And almost worst thing of all are these ****ing moron beat writers, instead of asking the hard questions, pushing players and management, they only act as Hollands voice through media, they're WORTHLESS. DO YOUR JOB.
the papers need to starting asking why the even employ beat writers.
They could just print the NHL.com gamers for a small fee and get features from Red Wings employee Bill Roose and run the Press Releases.

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07-06-2013, 03:27 PM
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At least we're pretty much all in agreement on how bad and unneccesary this is.

Feeling very disappointed and angry from a fan standpoint.

Really don't want to spend my money on tickets or center ice to watch Dan Cleary bring down the level of play of whatever ES or PP line he is playing. And don't kid yourself, considering he was signed for 2.6 mill per, he's not going to be a 4th liner guys.

You would think we would have learned from the Sammy and Bert deals not to do deals like this. Guess we can't differentiate personal relationships from business relationships that put you in better positions to win.

All of my excitement for the 13-14 season is pretty much gone.

Have a bad feeling this is going to affect either Tatar's playing time, or roster spot.

This was the worst thing that could happen this off-season IMO, and I'm going to have a hard time putting up with it.

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07-06-2013, 03:27 PM
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Well... I guess you can put a good chunk of Red Wings nation on suicide watch. I find it hilarious that Dan Cleary can make the acquisitions of Alfredsson and Weiss bad.

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07-06-2013, 03:28 PM
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There isn't even a thread about this deal on the frenzy board. That's how ****ing bad this deal is. No one can believe it.

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Wishful thinking to make you feel a wee bit better?
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I kind of hope we crash and burn this year. Like 1st overall bad, then Holland is ****ing finally in the hot seat for once. I've almost always defended him but then he goes and does this when we have to sign the 2 most important RFAs still... Not impressed at all

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I was really excited yesterday about the upcoming season, but this just crushes it. 3 freaking years makes no sense.

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someone needs to make some fire holland themed avatars for us

this is the absolute last straw for me,i'm 100% done with this guy
I guess you must be done with the whole Wings management team then?

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07-06-2013, 03:30 PM
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What happened to those 12 teams that were interested in him. WTF!!! How stupid is this!!!!

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07-06-2013, 03:31 PM
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I feel......defeated. Last year I had to hear **** all summer about us signing Tootoo and now this.

Celebrating Cleary's departure yesterday feels like a football player spiking the ball at the one yard line on his way to the end zone. Embarrassing.

I'm not a Holland basher but how do you defend this? There were better old guys on the UFA market than Cleary if that's what you fancy, Kenneth.

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I kind of hope we crash and burn this year. Like 1st overall bad, then Holland is ****ing finally in the hot seat for once. I've almost always defended him but then he goes and does this when we have to sign the 2 most important RFAs still... Not impressed at all
I'd rather that wait til next season, then we can get Connor McDavid

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17 contracts now
Exactly what we had last season? It was only the lockout that saved any players from being dealt, I'm pretty sure that Holland will be looking to deal a player or two for an upgrade on defense I think he pretty much said that after he signed his last forward that he now wants to upgrade the defense so let's start with Quincey he should be the next expendable one

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Well...****. Can't defend this move.

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07-06-2013, 03:32 PM
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Well... I guess you can put a good chunk of Red Wings nation on suicide watch. I find it hilarious that Dan Cleary can make the acquisitions of Alfredsson and Weiss bad.
Takes up a roster spot from a more skilled player on the PP and probably the 3rd or 4th line (which would be any hockey player with a pulse). There's a reason 99% of this board thinks this is a terrible move.

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But oh, it's the price of tea in China, guys.

You want to get your players you have to pay for them... right?

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