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08-10-2013, 06:59 PM
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anyone think reffing will improve in the playoff or it will continue to be terrible and inconsistent

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08-10-2013, 07:07 PM
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There's always the Canucks...

What's with these Hipster Canuck avy's btw? They're awesome.
Canucks have had enough attention in the media the last few years - happy to be out of the spotlight for now. Not sure about the avatars, just found a bunch of them - PM me if you want 'em.

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anyone think reffing will improve in the playoff or it will continue to be terrible and inconsistent
I doubt it will "improve" but the terrible and inconsistent is always subjective.

Hockey is the hardest sport to ref and with the speed and players embellishment it will never get "better.

All teams and their fans tend to complain when a call doesn't go their way and then overlook when the ref misses an obvious call against their team, this will never change.

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08-10-2013, 11:57 PM
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I've actually loved all this Gretzky/25 coverage. Watching Oiler fans have to re-live it over and over again is amusing to say the least. Peter Pocklington is, was and always will be a loathsome *******, though.

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Oh man there are good arguments on why Mario probably isn't in the top 4, it's clearly Orr, Wayne and Howe (in no order) in the top 3 hockey players of all time.
When healthy, I think Lemieux was more dominant relative to his peers than anyone in the modern era.

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When healthy, I think Lemieux was more dominant relative to his peers than anyone in the modern era.
don't get me wrong his pure skill level was off the charts, probably the best of all time and better than Wayne but his health limited his effectiveness and his lack of attention to defense also hurts his legacy.

Even in his 2nd to last great season(96 when he led the league with 161 points) his ES GF on ice was lousy compared to ES GA on ice. so sure he was dominant in scoring points, especially lethal on the PP, but his overall effectiveness was not so great really.

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When healthy, I think Lemieux was more dominant relative to his peers than anyone in the modern era.
Which is why I feel if there was a single iteration game, and had to choose either Gretzky or Lemieux at their physical and mental peak, I'd take Lemieux.

But if it was multiple iterations, I'd take Gretzky. Lemieux's health issues have definitely cost him in the top-3 of all time discussion.

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08-11-2013, 02:06 PM
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Lemieux's health issues have definitely cost him in the top-3 of all time discussion.
Not saying he'd be in the top three, but injuries have done the same to Bossy's ranking.

I think i'd still put him in the top 5 though. I find he flies under a lot of peoples radar.

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who are the current East and West favourite and the underdogs?
West
Chicago
LA
Blues

East
Boston
Detriot
Flyers or Pens?

underdogs-East
Sens
underdogs-West
Canucks

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08-11-2013, 04:24 PM
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who are the current East and West favourite and the underdogs?
West
Chicago
LA
Blues

East
Boston
Detriot
Flyers or Pens?

underdogs-East
Sens
underdogs-West
Canucks
When you say underdog...
Do you mean dark horse...
As in a team that is not on people's radar...
But people will not be surprised if they pull one off?

I am not sure about the Sens...
Because while they are promising...
They are not a complete team...
And they still need a couple more pieces.
I cannot see them in a deep run.

The Canucks...
I feel...
Is a long shot dark horse.
The future is a lot brighter now...
But there are a couple of holes...
And many question marks.
I am sure they will make the playoffs...
But I am not sure how far they could go.

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08-11-2013, 04:25 PM
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Hmm...
This must be the 80s athlete's diet.

Boy...
Times change.

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08-11-2013, 04:39 PM
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When you say underdog...
Do you mean dark horse...
As in a team that is not on people's radar...
But people will not be surprised if they pull one off?

I am not sure about the Sens...
Because while they are promising...
They are not a complete team...
And they still need a couple more pieces.
I cannot see them in a deep run.

The Canucks...
I feel...
Is a long shot dark horse.
The future is a lot brighter now...
But there are a couple of holes...
And many question marks.
I am sure they will make the playoffs...
But I am not sure how far they could go.
underdogs as in no media or analyze to predict them to go far, everyone expect them to go make playoff with question marks.........there have been underdogs who won but it been a while....

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08-11-2013, 04:55 PM
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underdogs as in no media or analyze to predict them to go far, everyone expect them to go make playoff with question marks.........there have been underdogs who won but it been a while....
As of now the Canucks look to be a team in decline with an aging core and a good young talent base, mainly built on this past draft that probably will replace and not support the current core.

But who knows maybe a fountain of youth happens under Torts and the youth movement is successful earlier than expected then maybe they turn into an underdog.

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08-12-2013, 10:28 AM
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When healthy, I think Lemieux was more dominant relative to his peers than anyone in the modern era.
I'd actually use that line with respect to Bobby Orr. But it's all a matter of ones own personal opinion. I've watched Orr dominate a world tournament - on one leg.

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When healthy, I think Lemieux was more dominant relative to his peers than anyone in the modern era.
Guy had a 160 points in 60 games with a debilitating back disorder and cancer. I'm going to agree, but I'm biased, Lemieux is my favourite player of all time. My cats name is Mario Le"meow".

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I'd actually use that line with respect to Bobby Orr. But it's all a matter of ones own personal opinion. I've watched Orr dominate a world tournament - on one leg.
To my mind, Orr was too long ago to make any strong relative comparisons. That's why I said "modern era" -- I'm thinking post maybe around 1980 and beyond, where you can at least do late-career comparisons between guys like Gretzky and Lemieux and young future HOFers that entered the league (the Selannes, Yzermans, and Sakics of the world). I certainly take your point, though.

Lemieux's combination of sublime talent and size is unmatched. He was to hockey what LeBron James is to basketball right now, though the gap between Lemieux and everyone else was probably a bit bigger.

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Guy had a 160 points in 60 games with a debilitating back disorder and cancer. I'm going to agree, but I'm biased, Lemieux is my favourite player of all time. My cats name is Mario Le"meow".


There was just something about the way Lemieux played. He was always in control the way Gretzky was, but he had that extra power/size to force the play more when he needed to. Those Penguins power plays in the early 90s were something else.

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who are the current East and West favourite and the underdogs?
West
Chicago
LA
Blues

East
Boston
Detriot
Flyers or Pens?

underdogs-East
Sens
underdogs-West
Canucks
West
Chicago
Los Angeles
St. Louis

East
Boston
Pittsburgh
Ottawa

Underdogs: NY Rangers and Edmonton

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08-12-2013, 12:15 PM
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Guy had a 160 points in 60 games with a debilitating back disorder and cancer. I'm going to agree, but I'm biased, Lemieux is my favourite player of all time. My cats name is Mario Le"meow".
It's hard for me to pick between Orr and Lemieux, but consider that in that season, if he played for 80 games he would have had 213 (on pace) which would only be 2nd to Gretzky. All doing so with such big physical obstacles.

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To my mind, Orr was too long ago to make any strong relative comparisons. That's why I said "modern era"
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Good news, everyone!

The Blackhawks are now determined to bring themselves down from the inside. They've hired Steve Weeks as their goalie coach. Yes, that Steve Weeks.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=6...d=nhl:topheads

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Good news, everyone!

The Blackhawks are now determined to bring themselves down from the inside. They've hired Steve Weeks as their goalie coach. Yes, that Steve Weeks.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=6...d=nhl:topheads
Steve Weeks, the goalie of the past.

A goaltending specialist for nine years with the Thrashers. Should probably take that off his resume.

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Not to dump on Weeks but curious they'd do that after how well Crawford played last season.

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Not to dump on Weeks but curious they'd do that after how well Crawford played last season.
Did Chicago have a goalie coach last year?

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http://video.bluejackets.nhl.com/vid...ed-share-video

Some really great stuff in here, CBJ draft video. Includes Wennberg interview, and trade offers from the draft. Buffalo was possibly going to trade up to 14 to get Domi.

Would have loved to see them discuss Shinkaruk, they had him 27 IIRC. Didn't show any good looks of their full draft list, but maybe some people can piece some of it together.

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