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07-08-2013, 01:34 PM
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Poulin Accepts QO

http://islanderspointblank.com/islan...lifying-offer/


The Islanders have announced that goaltender Kevin Poulin has accepted his qualifying offer and will sign a one-year, two-way contract.

Poulin was an RFA. According to Cap Geek, Poulin’s qualifying offer was $577,500.

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The Islanders have announced that goaltender Kevin Poulin has accepted his qualifying offer and will sign a one-year, two-way contract.

Poulin was an RFA. According to Cap Geek, Poulinís qualifying offer was $577,500.
So that means he doesnt have to clear waivers before being sent down? Correct?

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So that means he doesnt have to clear waivers before being sent down? Correct?
Correct, he is not waiver eligible until April 2014. Regardless of one/two way contract.

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Good news.

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You had to figure he'd accept the QO. Good news that it's a 2-way contract though, gives us flexibility.

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You had to figure he'd accept the QO. Good news that it's a 2-way contract though, gives us flexibility.
2-way contract doesn't really mean anything other than a different AHL/NHL salary. Staple, I believe, said that Poulin would have to clear waivers no matter what, which a few on this board have proven to be untrue. It's a strange situation.

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You had to figure he'd accept the QO. Good news that it's a 2-way contract though, gives us flexibility.
Good "prove it" season for both him and Nilsson. Either could take the reigns if Nabby falters.

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Correct, he is not waiver eligible until April 2014. Regardless of one/two way contract.
Thank you!! I've tried to make this point several times in vein, ever since Staple incorrectly said otherwise.

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This makes me think they can still get another goaltender.

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good news.. now I would still go after another netminder... this is the position that scares me most..

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Wow I thought they would atleast agree to a short term deal...2 years 2 mil.....


Im Guessing Poulin is hoping to prove himself this year and get a better deal next year..

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I am guessing since the contract is two way that Snow is still looking for a back up or a number one. Maybe they still have something in the works. There are teams out there that have to make trades just to get under the cap. I am sure snow isnt done. I am guessing still looking for a goalie and hopefully a top winger for JT. Lots of time yet.

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#Isles G Kevin Poulin does require waivers to be sent down this season, team says. Means he could be gone if he doesn't win job w/ big club.
Plot thickens

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2-way contract doesn't really mean anything other than a different AHL/NHL salary. Staple, I believe, said that Poulin would have to clear waivers no matter what, which a few on this board have proven to be untrue. It's a strange situation.
Snow stated at that recent STH meeting Poulin requires waivers.

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What do you guys think is Poulin's problem right now?

In 2010-11 he had a .932 SV% in AHL and a .924 SV% in the NHL. Since then his numbers have got worse each season. I know he had surgery after that 2010-11 season...is that the issue or something else?


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What do you guys think is Poulin's problem right now?

In 2010-11 he had a .932 SV% in AHL and a .924 SV% in the NHL. Since then his numbers have got worse each season. I know he had surgery after that 2010-11 season...is that the issue or something else?


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Probably the knee injury. Pretty clear that he hasn't been the same since, it's weird.

EDIT: anyone know if he's changed his goaltending style since that injury? He seemed less positionally sound in action this season.

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Snow stated at that recent STH meeting Poulin requires waivers.
Completely flies in the face of the collective bargaining agreement. Goalies exempt from waivers for 4 pro seasons or 60 NHL games played when you sign your ELC from age 20-23

I'll add that I wish Staple would actually do some work and fill us in as to WHY Poulin has to clear waivers when by all indications it seems to contradict the Collective Bargaining Agreement (new AND old). I wont hold my breath. Probably just have to wait for another "The 'team' says" tweet.


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I expect a BIG season from Poulin. This is truly a make or break season for him. The 1 year QO makes that painfully obvious. So many goalies in the pipeline as well as FA goalies next year. My prediction is 15 wins in 30 starts (like a 15-9-6 type of record), 2.70 ga and .915 sp. IF he can't come up with those type of numbers, I feel he will be history after this season.

Of course, it all starts in training camp, he has to blow away the coaches with his play. Either way, makes great competition come training camp, Poulin vs Nilsson, may the better goalie win.

As far as his stats the last few seasons, I believe besides Donovan, Bridgeport had some putrid defense playing in front of our goalies. 2011-12, a slow start hurt Poulin as well. 2013, I don't know what happened there, but both goalies had bad stats.

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So basically hes the back up or he is waived?


I really hope Poulin is ready for this, I would hate to lose him

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very interesting..does this mean we're definitely going with Nabby/Poulin this year, or is there a chance garth signs someone and its a ?/Nabby tandem and Poulin gets waived? What do yall think will happen?

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If I was more optimistic in our ability to make bigger deals I would hope this was a prelude to a trade and upgrade at goalie, but not holding my breath so will assume it means Nabby/Poulin, unless Nilsson blows them away and forces his way onto the team.

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Please don't roast me if I'm wrong.. I'm not a lawyer nor CBA expert, but this is why I believe KP is eligible to be claimed on waivers..

CBA Article 13.4

(c) A 20 year old Player who plays in one or more Professional Games in the 2013-
14 season will be exempt from Regular Waivers as follows:
Season Regular Waivers
13-14 Exempt
14-15 Exempt
15-16 Exempt
16-17 Eligible

Because KP was 20 when he played in his first "Professional Game" in 2010-11, I believe by that ruling 2013-14 would make him waiver eligible..

There's a couple examples in the CBA where "NHL Games" and "Professional Games" are used somewhat differently for a player who is 18 or 19 compared to a 20+ year old.. I know it's confusing but based on 13.4c, I do believe Snow and Staple are correct.

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In case I wasn't clear..

I think because KP played in a professional game in 2010-11 as a 20 year old, his eligibility became:

2010-11 Exempt
2011-12 Exempt
2012-13 Exempt
2013-14 Eligible

I do not believe the games played is a minimum requirement for waivers.. I believe the table with the minimum games played makes you IMMEDIATELY ELIGIBLE once you cross that threshold.. but once you've played in your 3rd season after playing a game as a 20 year old pro, you're eligible regardless of how many games you play.

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Jeff I believe that to be true for Skaters. Goalies (aged 20-22 when signing an ELC) are given a 4th year of waiver exemption.

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Jeff I believe that to be true for Skaters. Goalies (aged 20-22 when signing an ELC) are given a 4th year of waiver exemption.
This isn't Poulin's ELC?

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