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07-07-2013, 09:45 AM
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Limit your team will go to match/make an offer sheet?

Some notable RFA players this year (like every year):
Rask, Pietrangelo, Stewart, McDonagh, Stepan, Bogosian, Kadri, Franson, Cowen, Alzner, Nyquist, Henrique to name only a few.

With cap issues around the league and trades being fairly costly. I think some offer sheets may be used this year if negotiations stretch into mid July.

*** How high are you willing to see your team go to match for your RFA's.
***How high are you willing to see your team go to make an offer sheet.

Would like to base it on the compensation levels for ease of discussion rather than argue over specific $ amounts.

1) $1,110,249 and below No compensation
2) $1,110,250 to $1,682,194 Third-round pick
3) $1,682,195 to $3,364,391 Second-round pick
4) $3,364,392 to $5,046,585 First- and third-round pick
5) $5,046,586 to $6,728,781 First-, second-, and third-round pick
6) $6,728,782 to $8,410,976 Two first-round picks and a second- and third-round pick
7) $8,410,977 and above Four first-round picks

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07-07-2013, 09:47 AM
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For my part, I'd only like to see the Avs (who have no real valuable RFAs of their own this year but will have plenty next year) target defensemen. However, I don't want to extremely overpay since one player will not bring the cup to Colorado this year.

My limits:
Pietrangelo- level 6
McDonagh- level 5
Alzner- level 4
Cowen- level 4
B. Smith- Level 3
Franson- Level 3
Tanev- Level 3

while I think most would be matched, there is always a chance a team will decide the picks out value the player + whatever assets may need moved in order to stay cap compliant if they match.

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Some notable RFA players this year (like every year):
Rask, Pietrangelo, Stewart, McDonagh, Stepan, Bogosian, Kadri, Franson, Cowen, Alzner, Nyquist, Henrique to name only a few.

With cap issues around the league and trades being fairly costly. I think some offer sheets may be used this year if negotiations stretch into mid July.

*** How high are you willing to see your team go to match for your RFA's.
***How high are you willing to see your team go to make an offer sheet.

Would like to base it on the compensation levels for ease of discussion rather than argue over specific $ amounts.

1) $1,110,249 and below No compensation
2) $1,110,250 to $1,682,194 Third-round pick
3) $1,682,195 to $3,364,391 Second-round pick
4) $3,364,392 to $5,046,585 First- and third-round pick
5) $5,046,586 to $6,728,781 First-, second-, and third-round pick
6) $6,728,782 to $8,410,976 Two first-round picks and a second- and third-round pick
7) $8,410,977 and above Four first-round picks
For McDonagh the Max would be $6,728,781. Anything over that and I think Sather would take the 2 1sts, 2nd & 3rd.

For Stepan its a bit trickier. Id guess if that team went over the $5,046,586 we may not match.

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For McDonagh the Max would be $6,728,781. Anything over that and I think Sather would take the 2 1sts, 2nd & 3rd.

For Stepan its a bit trickier. Id guess if that team went over the $5,046,586 we may not match.
I'd match a $6.7M offer for Stepan. We'd look pretty stupid if, 2 years later, he's putting up 70 points a year with solid defense and all we got was a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

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Compensation levels are so messed up relative to the current cap and max contract length. It's like people are begging GM's to offersheet someone to a ridiculous salary that is not worth the compensation.

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Pietrangelo level 7

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Compensation level 4 and I think you'd have to think long and hard about Smith and Nyquist. Andersson level 2.

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Would offersheet Cowen to a 3 year $4.8m contract.

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For Henrique level 4 and below I'd match but after that it would be hard. If a team like Chicago did level 5, I'd match but if a team like Calgary offered a level 5 contract I'd think about it.. Still not sure.

Devils can only offer up to level 3 because of the Kovalchuk penalty.

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Do all the picks need to be your own picks, or can they be picks you acquire from other teams?

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Do all the picks need to be your own picks, or can they be picks you acquire from other teams?
Have to be your own picks.

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My offer sheet to Pietrangelo would look something like this.

12+11+11+10+8+8+7.5=67.5 CH= 9.643

Now where do we get the cap space.......... That is a ridiculous offer though haha.

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The Leafs should go level 5 on either Henrique or Stepan. They have a lot of cap space and it can't end up much worse than paying Grabovski that kind of money or Bozak (and God forbid Dave freaking Bolland top next year) close to it.
That's the only big one that makes sense to me. Not feeling good at all about what it would take to get Pietrangelo.

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The Leafs should go level 5 on either Henrique or Stepan. They have a lot of cap space and it can't end up much worse than paying Grabovski that kind of money or Bozak (and God forbid Dave freaking Bolland top next year) close to it.
That's the only big one that makes sense to me. Not feeling good at all about what it would take to get Pietrangelo.
And then lose Nazem Kadri, Cody Franson, and Carl Gunnarsson? No thank you.

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For White and Tokarski... Whatever gets us a pick as it looks like the hab brass isn't too high on Tokarski for some reason.

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I'd offer sheet Pie at 8.4 million just to see if the Blues will match and screw their cap situation.

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For Calgary, probably best they stay away from this offersheet thing altogether, at least until they figure out how it works .

But the only player I would be happy seeing them give up their first round pick next year is Pietrangelo and realistically the Blues instant match anything under $6,728,782. Giving up even the 2 firsts, possible players like Ekblad and McDavid, would likely not be worth it in the long run. Just way too far away to bring in a player (even of Pietrangelo skill) at the cost of the future.

For everyone else, just don't see any way of getting the tempting players without at least breaking that $3,364,392 barrier and costing them their first.

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Mcdonagh I match unless some team is willing to give up 4 first round picks.

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Vancouver doesn't have any RFA's worth sigining for other teams.

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I would let Rask go for either level 6 or obviously 7.

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We have a lot of RFAs and could be in trouble, because we actually don't have a lot of cap space left. Here's the levels where we match:

Bogosian level 6
Wheeler level 6
Little level 5
Burmistrov level 3

There's no way we could match a level 7 and keep all 4 RFAs. This also depends greatly on what the contract is. Any offer sheet contract over 5 years gets shortened to 5 years for compensation purposes. For example if someone offers Bogosian $42 million over 7 years, the AAV is $6 million but is $8.5 million for compensation purposes. That's a level 7 but we'd match it.


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If a team offered Pietrangelo to a contract with a cap hit of over $8,000,000, St. Louis would let him go.

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Mcdonagh I match unless some team is willing to give up 4 first round picks.
As an Oiler fan I'd do it. 7 years x 6.1mil. A bit of an overpay, but I think if McDonagh were a UFA he'd get that much. Rangers get 4 first rounders.

Next years D:

McDonagh-JSchultz
Smid-Petry
Ference-NSchultz

Looks pretty good to me. None of those picks should be lottery picks.

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For McDonagh the Max would be $6,728,781. Anything over that and I think Sather would take the 2 1sts, 2nd & 3rd.

For Stepan its a bit trickier. Id guess if that team went over the $5,046,586 we may not match.
I'd easily give up a first, second, and third for Stepan. I'd OS him at $6M, see if the Rangers match what with McDonagh, Hagelin, and Zucc to sign still and only about $11M left to do it per capgeek (correct me if there's something I'm not aware of there). Hell, I'd trade off Thornton or Boyle to get the cap space.

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