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07-10-2013, 06:39 PM
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Boychuk will not be dealt.

Kelly has been actively shopped for a while. We are tight against the cap after Gagner signs and if we have to retain Hemsky's salary.

People, please keep in mind...if Yak, Nuge, and Schultz light it up we could be in cap trouble NEXT season with bonus overages.

Better to be safe than sorry. I'd go for a cheaper 3rd line option than Kelly or pray that Hemskys salary doesn't have to be eaten.

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07-10-2013, 06:41 PM
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Hemsky for Daniel Winnik?

The Ducks just trade Ryan for 1st + Noeson(sp?) + Silverberg. Hemsky would give them another source of offense.

Winnik gives us another PK-able forward and a gritty presence on the 3rd line.

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07-10-2013, 06:43 PM
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It's great that the top 6 is even more skilled now, but the Oilers were skilled last year, and when the games got tough, they usually lost. I think with the addition of Perron, we may see a few more offensive outbursts during the season, but they need to add some players to the bottom 6 that can win the team some games where everything isn't going in for the stars.

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Boychuk will not be dealt.

Kelly has been actively shopped for a while. We are tight against the cap after Gagner signs and if we have to retain Hemsky's salary.

People, please keep in mind...if Yak, Nuge, and Schultz light it up we could be in cap trouble NEXT season with bonus overages.

Better to be safe than sorry. I'd go for a cheaper 3rd line option than Kelly or pray that Hemskys salary doesn't have to be eaten.
In a perfect world we deal Hemsky and his entire salary to the Sens for a guy like Smith making room for Kelly and his salary.

But I get where you're coming from for sure. Rumours are the cap could go up a lot the following season and continue to do so the season after that so it might not be much of a worry then.

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Our fanbase is way too reactionary.

Last summer: Eberle is the greatest young player EVER! He will win the Richard one day! Hallsy is injury prone! Let's trade him if we need to get rid of one of the kids!

This summer: Hall is a god amongst men! Eberle isn't very good! Let's trade Eberle!.

I can almost guarantee next summer: Yakupov is the greatest thing since sliced bread!! get rid of Hall and RNH!!
Quoted for truth.

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07-10-2013, 06:45 PM
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Why? Pavelski isn't any bigger really and Eberle out scores him and is 5 years younger. Seems like a backwards move to me.
Scores less points and is older, but he is a centerman, good on draws, better defensively, not as soft, etc. More well-rounded pretty much and fills more of a need.

Although if Eberle returns to 76 point form it might look bad on us.

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Boychuk will not be dealt.

Kelly has been actively shopped for a while. We are tight against the cap after Gagner signs and if we have to retain Hemsky's salary.

People, please keep in mind...if Yak, Nuge, and Schultz light it up we could be in cap trouble NEXT season with bonus overages.

Better to be safe than sorry. I'd go for a cheaper 3rd line option than Kelly or pray that Hemskys salary doesn't have to be eaten.
I dunno with cap probably rising by $4 million or so next year. We shouldn't take on any long term salary for Hemsky if we can help it.

Him + cap rising will be almost $10 million off the cap, and we probably won't even spend to the cap this year either.

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Hemsky for Daniel Winnik?

The Ducks just trade Ryan for 1st + Noeson(sp?) + Silverberg. Hemsky would give them another source of offense.

Winnik gives us another PK-able forward and a gritty presence on the 3rd line.
Sign me up, as much as I love Hemmer at this point I will take any 3rd line gritty player just to free up cap space to fill out this roster, we don't have a ton of room left...

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07-10-2013, 06:51 PM
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Perron just said he feels he likes the left side more than the right. The puck possession game Edmonton seems to want to play better suits him for the left, whereas he was good on the right in St. Louis because they'd be shooting for a rebound.

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Hemsky for Daniel Winnik?

The Ducks just trade Ryan for 1st + Noeson(sp?) + Silverberg. Hemsky would give them another source of offense.

Winnik gives us another PK-able forward and a gritty presence on the 3rd line.
Not a huge fan of trading Hemsky in division, but I'd probably do this. Ideally I'd like to wedge a little more out of the Ducks.

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07-10-2013, 06:58 PM
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Signing off for the night I think

If the Oilers are done, I'm angry, because I'm angry right now.

If I wake up tomorrow morning to see Hemsky dealt for a useful piece and Penner or Morrow brought in on the left side...then I'm happier. Much happier.

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Scores less points and is older, but he is a centerman, good on draws, better defensively, not as soft, etc. More well-rounded pretty much and fills more of a need.

Although if Eberle returns to 76 point form it might look bad on us.
Suspect Eberle will do a lot better than what he did in 2011-2012 soon.

Only a fool would trade him.

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07-10-2013, 07:15 PM
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One more attempt to make the team better:

Gagner, Petry, Brown, 3rd rounder in 2014 for Coburn and Couturier
Hemsky for 2nd round pick in 2014
N.Schultz, 1st in 2014 for Gardiner
Potter to DET for 5th rounder
Sign Penner, Grabovski, Cleary, Gilbert

Hall-Grabovski-Yakupov
Perron-RNH-Eberle
Penner-Couturier-Cleary
Smyth-Gordon-Jones
Joensuu

Coburn-Schultz
Smid-Ference
Gardiner-Gilbert
Belov

Dubnyk
LaBarbera



More likely to see:
Hall-RNH-Eberle
Perron-Gagner-Yakupov
Joensuu-Gordon-Jones
Smyth-Lander-Brown

Ference-Schultz
Smid-Petry
N.Schultz-Belov

Dubnyk
LaBarbera

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07-10-2013, 07:19 PM
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Gagner, Petry, Brown, 3rd rounder in 2014 for Coburn and Couturier
Hemsky for Smith
N.Schultz, 1st in 2014 for Gardiner
Potter to DET for 5th rounder
Sign Penner, Grabovski, Cleary, Gilbert
None of these trades would be accepted by the other team good try though lol.

Just an FYI we have 7M in capspace so not sure how we are signing all 4 of those FA's either.

More realistic would be signing a guy like cleary and trading Hemsky for depth pieces.

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07-10-2013, 07:23 PM
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Hall-Gagner-Eberle
Perron-RNH-Yakupov
Penner-Gordon-Cleary

Smyth-Smith-Jones
Joensuu/Brown

PLEASE MACT DONT BE DONE

Our bottom six is the worst in the league.
That would be sick.

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07-10-2013, 07:26 PM
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That would be sick.
That would be my ideal middle solution.

What I posted above is the "impossible Cup winner roster" and the below of it was the "We are finishing 9th place" roster.

This roster, with the additions of Penner and Cleary up front, probably cement our playoff status.

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07-10-2013, 07:28 PM
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I'm thinking MacT has telegraphed the rest of his moves bringing in Perron instead of a big tough winger with skill.

So IMO, we'll likely see Hemsky traded for a bottom 6 forward and a pick, 2014 UFA Gagner traded for a top 4 defenseman, Grabowski signed as 2nd C and a few lesser big players for the bottom 6 signed cheap when we get closer to camp.

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lets just sign Penner for the third line left win now

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If the Oilers are going to the UFA route, here's a couple that might make the team better and harder to play against.

Latendress and Larose. They're both veterans who play hard games, I think it would be a good fit.

Hall - Nuge - Yakupov
Perron - Gagner - Eberle
Latendress - Gordon - Jones
Brown - Lander - Larose
Smyth, Joensuu

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If the Oilers are going to the UFA route, here's a couple that might make the team better and harder to play against.

Latendress and Larose. They're both veterans who play hard games, I think it would be a good fit.

Hall - Nuge - Yakupov
Perron - Gagner - Eberle
Latendress - Gordon - Jones
Brown - Lander - Larose
Smyth, Joensuu
The same Chad Larose Carolina fans refer to as the worst player in the NHL??

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I have a hunch we trade Hemsky to PHX.

I can seeMacT trying to reunite Gordon with Moss and maybe even Klinkhammer.

Hemsky
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Moss and Klinkhammer

That line was effective for PHX.....the Coyotes are looking for offense so Hemsky makes sense for them

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The same Chad Larose Carolina fans refer to as the worst player in the NHL??
I guess, if he was being over used that would make sense.

See a "not 4-line" Ryan Smyth

And if Larose isn't a fit, Halischuk, Armstrong, Lombardi are all options too.

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I don't want injury prone, 5 foot 10 Chad LaRose.

Give me Penner and Cleary

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I don't want injury prone, 5 foot 10 Chad LaRose.

Give me Penner and Cleary
I'd take "injury prone" Chad LaRose over only shows up when he feels like Dustin Penner.

You don't have to question LaRose's commitment.

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I have a hunch we trade Hemsky to PHX.

I can seeMacT trying to reunite Gordon with Moss and maybe even Klinkhammer.

Hemsky
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Moss and Klinkhammer

That line was effective for PHX.....the Coyotes are looking for offense so Hemsky makes sense for them
I'd freaking love it if we brought Moss in to play with Gordon.

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