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07-13-2013, 08:29 PM
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Because the teams that are the driving force behind revenue exploding is not ottawa.... And Ottawa does not even qualify for revenue sharing.
How can Ottawa qualify for revenue sharing?

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if the cap ever goes to 120 Mill, the sens are ****ed
If the cap ever gets to $120 mil, the NHL is ****ed.

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How can Ottawa qualify for revenue sharing?
This gives a better idea.

http://basketball.about.com/od/nba-v...-Leagues_4.htm

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Does not fit the system at all

Spezza has great south-north speed but isn't all that agile and Ryan is an average skater

I think a speedy winger is going to be required on that line
Michalek - Spezza - Ryan
Penner - Turris - MacArthur

Murray took a chance with Latendresse who clearly wasn't suited for our speed game but added another dimension.

He can score garbage goals, is a physical force and is impossible to move in front of the net.

Although Penner doesn't have great acceleration he has good speed. It's a weird misconception around here, but he's actually a good skater with good top end speed, just a bit slower to accelerate.

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07-13-2013, 10:09 PM
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If the cap ever gets to $120 mil, the NHL is ****ed.
The cap will get there eventually

It's how fast it gets there that matters

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07-13-2013, 10:12 PM
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Murray took a chance with Latendresse who clearly wasn't suited for our speed game but added another dimension.
Now I won't debate that Penner elevates his game come playoff time, but using Lats as a comparable begs the mention of Gui being scratched for most of our playoff games this year. Also Lats was a very cheap gamble, which Pancakes is not.

And him still being UFA leads me to believe that he's holding out hope of going back to LA. If anything we'd probably have to overpay for him.

But I'm not against the idea, I just don't think it is very likely.

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An NHL GM knows a HELL of a lot more about NHL Finances and the CBA than you do, kid.



BUT, my question re growth, I thought the idea of the salary cap was to make it fair for every team so they all had a chance? If it goes up to 70, that's going to take a fair few teams out of contention - financially at least.
Whatever you say, little boy.

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07-13-2013, 10:49 PM
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This is what the Great Below would do with the ability to spend to the cap

Sign Penner to whatever he wants, lose Hoffman to waivers, trade Zibanejad + Wiercioch for Byfuglien, trade Smith for Hemsky, trade Lehner + Greening for Nielsen

The Sens would be so much better off doing this and spending all that money. Stupid Eugene

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Whatever you say, little boy. is right
Fixed. I'm jelly of the info GMs must have. Not even out of the question of them hitting up Daley et all and getting the best speculation info.

I do agree that unless we spend close to the cap, the Cup may be more a fantasy than a reality. If our budget was large, it's not as if we can pluck core players from free agency these days, but at least some useful player and it'd help our team stay together as our young players will warrant more money.

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07-13-2013, 10:52 PM
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This is what the Great Below would do with the ability to spend to the cap

Sign Penner to whatever he wants, lose Hoffman to waivers, trade Zibanejad + Wiercioch for Byfuglien, trade Smith for Hemsky, trade Lehner + Greening for Nielsen

The Sens would be so much better off doing this and spending all that money. Stupid Eugene
wat.

Edit: nvm, misread the post

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07-13-2013, 10:53 PM
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Fixed. I'm jelly of the info GMs must have. Not even out of the question of them hitting up Daley et all and getting the best speculation info.

I do agree that unless we spend close to the cap, the Cup may be more a fantasy than a reality.
Well wtf do you propose spending it on if there was hypothetically some to be spent?

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07-13-2013, 10:55 PM
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Well wtf do you propose spending it on if there was hypothetically some to be spent?
Perry : (. Like the Ducks we better sign up our own players long term before they all hit UFA in two years. Being a cap team is the general idea, not necessarily today.

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07-13-2013, 10:59 PM
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Perry : (. We better sign up our own players long term before they all hit UFA in two years.
Well no way the Ducks let him go obviously


If Cowen, or Zibanejad or someone like that leaves because Euge won't open his wallet, then I'll be pissed. For now, I don't care

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This fanbase though

Trades for Bobby Ryan --> complains about not spending money to improve

Wow

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Given what was available, who was traded, and the prices of Free Agents, I'd like to see anyone on this forum come up with a better roster that was cheaper.

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This fanbase though

Trades for Bobby Ryan --> complains about not spending money to improve

Wow
this x100

we are also in a rebuild we arent going to spend to the cap or close to the cap yet


I don't know why it is such an issue when we have clearly improved this summer imo

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07-13-2013, 11:24 PM
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This fanbase though

Trades for Bobby Ryan --> complains about not spending money to improve

Wow
We gave away our face of franchise to afford Ryan

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07-13-2013, 11:26 PM
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Gonchar dominates for us last year as a top pair D... Making up for the Karlsson injury

We let him go and replace him with Corvo cause he was willing to take 900K

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07-13-2013, 11:28 PM
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We gave away our face of franchise to afford Ryan
we didnt give him away.. he left. It is his right and we replaced him with a better younger player.

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we didnt give him away.. he left. It is his right and we replaced him with a better younger player.
Fine and what about Gonchar?

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Gonchar dominates for us last year as a top pair D... Making up for the Karlsson injury

We let him go and replace him with Corvo cause he was willing to take 900K
we are rebuilding. You get rid of the old and let younger guys have a chance. Boston got rid of a lot of faces to the franchise and became better for it. Same with other rebuilding teams

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we are rebuilding. You get rid of the old and let younger guys have a chance. Boston got rid of a lot of faces to the franchise and became better for it. Same with other rebuilding teams
How young is Corvo?

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07-13-2013, 11:42 PM
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Corvo is 36 years old for the people curious...

This teams money issues caused us to downgrade from Gonchar to Corvo

It's obvious to anyone not drinking the koolaid that lack of money is already effecting the Sens

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07-13-2013, 11:50 PM
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It's obvious to anyone not drinking the koolaid that lack of money is already effecting the Sens
Well what do you want done about it? Murray himself has said he's working with a budget and it's not a shocker.

Am I missing the discussion here or there's imo needless chatter about how we're a budget team because of an owner which is a situation that won't be changing anytime soon. Best to work with what we got and looks good to me.

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07-13-2013, 11:53 PM
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I have no complaint that we are under a budget.

It's people like mandyknowsbest coming in here closing his eyes and plugging his ears pretending nothing is wrong.

Just helping people realize don't expect this team to be a cap team... It will be like the Bryden years for now.

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