HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Pacific Division > Calgary Flames
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Flames Sign Mikael Backlund to a 2-year, $1.5M AAV deal.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
07-10-2013, 06:28 PM
  #26
Johnny Hoxville
Moderator
Dust Buster
 
Johnny Hoxville's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Calgary
Country: Canada
Posts: 13,149
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by MonahanTheMan View Post
He's at least getting better. The second Jokinen contract was pretty cringy.

EDITED: Oh wait that was Sutter, I just proved your point XD Hahaha.
The only big money deals he handed out were to Wideman and Hudler. Both were FA's, so I don't consider them excessive.

Johnny Hoxville is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 06:49 PM
  #27
Stewie Griffin
Moderator
Driving a Bandwagon
 
Stewie Griffin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
Posts: 7,349
vCash: 106
Fire Feaster!




I'm shocked that it was a deal for less than $2 million and for more than one year. Fantastic signing.

__________________
For those who oppose socialism, I ask you this: What is more fun, one guy drinking twelve beers, or six guys each drinking two beers?
Stewie Griffin is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 07:07 PM
  #28
Flames7676
Registered User
 
Flames7676's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Alberta
Country: Canada
Posts: 393
vCash: 500
Great deal for 1.5M now sign T.J. Brodie.

Flames7676 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 07:38 PM
  #29
InfinityIggy
Inflammatory Poster
 
InfinityIggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Calgary, AB
Country: Canada
Posts: 15,325
vCash: 355
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Feaster gets a steal of a deal with Brodie:

2.35per for 4 years.

InfinityIggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 07:41 PM
  #30
MonahanTheMan
Pray for Flames
 
MonahanTheMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Bellingham, WA
Country: United States
Posts: 1,837
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by InfinityIggy View Post
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Feaster gets a steal of a deal with Brodie:

2.35per for 4 years.
If this happens I'd be the happiest lad in town.

MonahanTheMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 08:04 PM
  #31
tmurfin
500g1000pts
 
tmurfin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,501
vCash: 100
Fantastic deal for Backs! Gonna go right ahead and pat myself on the back for sticking up for him last year! Now let's hope he earns big money for his next raise

tmurfin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 08:10 PM
  #32
Adirondack Flames
Unofficial
 
Adirondack Flames's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Country: Canada
Posts: 11,556
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noori View Post
He proved me wrong and showed a consistent NHL game. I still question his health and longevity (shoulder issue + knee issue), but hopefully he can overcome that. Great deal for the Flames. I would have gone as high as 2-2.25 million + an extra year.

T.J. Brodie, you're next!
This is what I think too

Quote:
Originally Posted by InfinityIggy View Post
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Feaster gets a steal of a deal with Brodie:

2.35per for 4 years.
No.

With Brodie we have 2 options. 3 years or less, or 8 years IMO.

4+ years makes him a UFA at the end of his deal, so I would prefer 3 for that reason but if he is going to be a UFA at the end of his deal we might as well lock him up as long as possible.

Adirondack Flames is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 08:17 PM
  #33
MarkGio
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,383
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abbotsford Heat View Post
This is what I think too

No.

With Brodie we have 2 options. 3 years or less, or 8 years IMO.

4+ years makes him a UFA at the end of his deal, so I would prefer 3 for that reason but if he is going to be a UFA at the end of his deal we might as well lock him up as long as possible.
Didn't the new CBA cap contract lengths at 6 years or something?

But I would be for a long term contract if its on the table. Brodie's a keeper

MarkGio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 08:24 PM
  #34
SmellOfVictory
Registered User
 
SmellOfVictory's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 5,186
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkGio View Post
Didn't the new CBA cap contract lengths at 6 years or something?

But I would be for a long term contract if its on the table. Brodie's a keeper
8 years for players drafted by that team, 7 if not drafted by that team.

SmellOfVictory is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 08:28 PM
  #35
MonahanTheMan
Pray for Flames
 
MonahanTheMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Bellingham, WA
Country: United States
Posts: 1,837
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkGio View Post
Didn't the new CBA cap contract lengths at 6 years or something?

But I would be for a long term contract if its on the table. Brodie's a keeper
I think it's a little too soon to say something like that. Brodie has decent offensive abilities but his defensive game seems pretty deficient, and obviously he's not really a very physical player.

If it's a choice between two/three years or eight years, I'd have to go with a two year to at least see whether his offensive upside pans out to the point at which he would make a potential top two defenseman.

MonahanTheMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 08:32 PM
  #36
Adirondack Flames
Unofficial
 
Adirondack Flames's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Country: Canada
Posts: 11,556
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkGio View Post
Didn't the new CBA cap contract lengths at 6 years or something?

But I would be for a long term contract if its on the table. Brodie's a keeper
8 years if you are re-signing a player, 7 years if it is a UFA signing.

Adirondack Flames is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 08:35 PM
  #37
Devilspuppet666
Registered User
 
Devilspuppet666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Calgary
Posts: 1,601
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MVW View Post
This is the area I rank as Feaster's greatest strength, contract signing. In this department he is infinitely better than Sutter. Great job to everyone, and hopefully Backlund can take that next step.
wasnt he educated as a lawyer? im sure hes done negotiating before so it really doesnt surprise me the least TBH

Devilspuppet666 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 08:50 PM
  #38
tfong
Registered User
 
tfong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,597
vCash: 500
Now if only he could have Sather's trading ability....

Anyhow this is a good contract.

tfong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 08:59 PM
  #39
Noori
Registered User
 
Noori's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Calgary
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,724
vCash: 1638
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calculon View Post
3 years would have taken him straight to UFA. 4 years of more would have meant buying up UFA years, which increases the price significantly.
Yeah, I didn't consider his free agent status at all.

Noori is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 09:04 PM
  #40
TheHudlinator
Registered User
 
TheHudlinator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Victoria,BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 19,928
vCash: 57
Good contracts for both sides. If Backlund takes the next step he gets a big pay day in 2 years if not we get a decent 3rd liner on a good contract.

TheHudlinator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 09:05 PM
  #41
SaintMorose
Registered User
 
SaintMorose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,071
vCash: 50
I feel like we didn't pay enough o.0

SaintMorose is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 09:06 PM
  #42
TheHudlinator
Registered User
 
TheHudlinator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Victoria,BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 19,928
vCash: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaintAnton View Post
I feel like we didn't pay enough o.0
For a player that has a career high of 25 points 1.5 a year is good money.

TheHudlinator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 09:17 PM
  #43
MonahanTheMan
Pray for Flames
 
MonahanTheMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Bellingham, WA
Country: United States
Posts: 1,837
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaintAnton View Post
I feel like we didn't pay enough o.0
Hopefully that means he likes Calgary and wants to play here.

MonahanTheMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 09:28 PM
  #44
Padlock
Registered User
 
Padlock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 413
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MVW View Post
This is the area I rank as Feaster's greatest strength, contract signing. In this department he is infinitely better than Sutter. Great job to everyone, and hopefully Backlund can take that next step.
I'd have to disagree. Sutter gets ripped on anytime someone sees the slightest chance. Infinitely better? NTC Sarich? Babchuk? Horrible length contract on Tanguay. This is just off the top of my head, hasn't been here long and those are bad deals. Sutter was here a lot longer, and yes made some bad signings, but also made great ones that nobody ever brings up. Feaster has done nothing but come in here promising to not blow the team up, I'm the wrong guy, they'll have to find someone else. Then proceeds to blow the team up, way too late. He's accomplished nothing here, I really don't understand the love for him and the vitriol in general against the man who single handedly brought this team back to respectability.

Padlock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 09:37 PM
  #45
Johnny Hoxville
Moderator
Dust Buster
 
Johnny Hoxville's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Calgary
Country: Canada
Posts: 13,149
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Padlock View Post
I'd have to disagree. Sutter gets ripped on anytime someone sees the slightest chance. Infinitely better? NTC Sarich? Babchuk? Horrible length contract on Tanguay. This is just off the top of my head, hasn't been here long and those are bad deals. Sutter was here a lot longer, and yes made some bad signings, but also made great ones that nobody ever brings up. Feaster has done nothing but come in here promising to not blow the team up, I'm the wrong guy, they'll have to find someone else. Then proceeds to blow the team up, way too late. He's accomplished nothing here, I really don't understand the love for him and the vitriol in general against the man who single handedly brought this team back to respectability.
Name one good value contract signing Sutter made in his entire time here, he would if given Glencross over 4. Feaster has made several and this is one of them. Tangs contract had a long term yes, but the dollar was great value based on his production. Babchuk and Sarich should not of got NMC's, but it lowered their dollar amount which were both fine. No one would of picked up Babs regardless and Feaster still managed to move Sarich despite not producing much of anything but a poor attitude. I'm not a fan of Feaster either, but saying he's not good at contract signings is completely inaccurate. Sutter was good at many other things and better than Feaster in some areas, contract signings was not one of those areas.

Yes Feaster was a lawyer.

Johnny Hoxville is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 09:39 PM
  #46
Padlock
Registered User
 
Padlock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 413
vCash: 500
I actually came on here to say that I like the signing though. Just got sidetracked. I'm not a blind feaster hater I just don't understand the unbridled love for a guy that has done nothing but make us the worst we've been in decades and hate for a guy who's the only one to get us in the playoffs since

Padlock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 09:39 PM
  #47
MarkGio
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,383
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Padlock View Post
I'd have to disagree. Sutter gets ripped on anytime someone sees the slightest chance. Infinitely better? NTC Sarich? Babchuk? Horrible length contract on Tanguay. This is just off the top of my head, hasn't been here long and those are bad deals. Sutter was here a lot longer, and yes made some bad signings, but also made great ones that nobody ever brings up. Feaster has done nothing but come in here promising to not blow the team up, I'm the wrong guy, they'll have to find someone else. Then proceeds to blow the team up, way too late. He's accomplished nothing here, I really don't understand the love for him and the vitriol in general against the man who single handedly brought this team back to respectability.
I think both are two peas in a pod. Both had the same guy sign their cheque and both had to put together a team that's keeps fans buying tickets

MarkGio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 09:40 PM
  #48
MonahanTheMan
Pray for Flames
 
MonahanTheMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Bellingham, WA
Country: United States
Posts: 1,837
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Padlock View Post
I'd have to disagree. Sutter gets ripped on anytime someone sees the slightest chance. Infinitely better? NTC Sarich? Babchuk? Horrible length contract on Tanguay. This is just off the top of my head, hasn't been here long and those are bad deals. Sutter was here a lot longer, and yes made some bad signings, but also made great ones that nobody ever brings up. Feaster has done nothing but come in here promising to not blow the team up, I'm the wrong guy, they'll have to find someone else. Then proceeds to blow the team up, way too late. He's accomplished nothing here, I really don't understand the love for him and the vitriol in general against the man who single handedly brought this team back to respectability.
Don't you dare rip on The Anton's contract! It's a well known fact (you can find it on Antonpedia) that Pittsburgh had offered him their full organization salary for the next ten years and were prepared to move the rest of the roster if he would grace Consol Energy Center with his aura. Feaster acquiring him for 2.5 million is the biggest steal in NHL history and makes Jay easily the greatest GM of all time.


Last edited by MonahanTheMan: 07-10-2013 at 09:55 PM.
MonahanTheMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 09:41 PM
  #49
Padlock
Registered User
 
Padlock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 413
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MVW View Post
Name one good value contract signing Sutter made in his entire time here, he would if given Glencross over 4. Feaster has made several and this is one of them. Tangs contract had a long term yes, but the dollar was great value based on his production. Babchuk and Sarich should not of got NMC's, but it lowered their dollar amount which were both fine. No one would of picked up Babs regardless and Feaster still managed to move Sarich despite not producing much of anything but a poor attitude. I'm not a fan of Feaster either, but saying he's not good at contract signings is completely inaccurate. Sutter was good at many other things and better than Feaster in some areas, contract signings was not one of those areas.

Yes Feaster was a lawyer.
Name one? How about 2 of the players you named. Glencross and Tanguay. Whom he signed cheaper than feaster

Padlock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-10-2013, 09:44 PM
  #50
Johnny Hoxville
Moderator
Dust Buster
 
Johnny Hoxville's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Calgary
Country: Canada
Posts: 13,149
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Padlock View Post
Name one? How about 2 of the players you named. Glencross and Tanguay. Whom he signed cheaper than feaster
Completely different circumstances. Defending Sutter saying he's better at contract signings than Feaster is laughable.

Johnny Hoxville is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:05 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.