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Brendan Smith files for salary arbitration

Helene St. James ‏@HeleneStJames 1 min
#RedWings D Brendan Smith filed for salary arbitration. Per Ken Holland, Wings will ask for 2-year deal, if it does go to arbitration.


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Red Wings D Brendan Smith is one of 21 players who have elected salary arbitration.

trade him?

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I don't mind it, no one can offer sheet him now.

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I don't mind it, no one can offer sheet him now.
He must be really ''paired'' with KFQ

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trade him?
Typically it has been Ken Holland's one-way ticket out of town.

Dunno. I expected 1.75 million extension for 2 years before this. Nice to see what he will get.

Year ago Quincey filed for arbitrator, but Holland re-signed him before that arbitration day. He just commented that "it was the part of the process".

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Teams now facing arbitration cases are granted a second buyout window, but no amnesty buyouts. Those must wait for next summer.
Maybe they buy out Sammy now?

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I think they will work something out before arbitration, Kenny has just had other things to worry about so far in the summer(like trying to sign Cleary ).

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Maybe they buy out Sammy now?
That's a pretty significant part of this 'deal'.

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@jtbourne I filed with Pheonix and in their brief they called me the worst forward in the NHL the previous year. You can't help but laugh.
Probably motivates a lot to play for them after that..

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Remember when people tried to argue that Holland was a "genius" for keeping prospects buried so long, because it would save him money for their 1st contract after their ELC expired?

Yeah, I guess that doesn't always work.

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It's probably difficult for Smith not to compare his situation to McDonagh's with the NYR. Both guys played 3 years together at the U of Wisconsin and then started their 3 year ELC's which ended last season. Both were first round selections in 2007, with McD going 12th and Smith 27th.

McD just signed a 6 year deal for $28.2M while Smith obviously won't be seeing anything approaching that term or salary. Of course, McD is a far superior player as of right now, but I'd guess that Smith feels that he could have proved himself as a regular last season, which would have upped his salary potential.

Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

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11.18 Ordinary Course Buy-Outs Outside the Regular Period. Clubs shall have the right to exercise Ordinary Course Buy-Outs outside the regular period for Ordinary Course Buy-Outs in accordance with Paragraph 13(c)(ii) of the SPC. Each Club shall be limited to no more than three (3) such Buy-Outs outside the regular period over the term of this Agreement pursuant to Paragraph 13 of the SPC. However, in the event that a Club has only one salary arbitration hearing pursuant to Section 12.3(a) in a given League Year, such Club shall not be entitled to exercise such an Ordinary Course Buy-Out outside the regular period. Moreover, a Club shall not be entitled to exercise an Ordinary Course Buy-Out outside the regular period for: (i) any Player who was not on the Club's Reserve List as of the most recent Trade Deadline,
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Remember when people tried to argue that Holland was a "genius" for keeping prospects buried so long, because it would save him money for their 1st contract after their ELC expired?

Yeah, I guess that doesn't always work.
How do you figure? Smith had a grand total of 8 points last year and arbitration guys love stats. This is Smith's only chance to assure he won't be lowballed to sign close to the QO money.

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Maybe they buy out Sammy now?
Very nice. Then give Smith 2 yrs 4M and Gus 3 years 6M.

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Smith had a lousy year statistically (and in all other ways). I fail to see why everyone is writing down a huge cap hit for the guy now, just because he filed for arb. He won't get a huge contract out of arb, though he may still get one out of Holland.

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Smith had a lousy year statistically (and in all other ways). I fail to see why everyone is writing down a huge cap hit for the guy now, just because he filed for arb. He won't get a huge contract out of arb, though he may still get one out of Holland.
I know. But I'm just hoping the Wings overpay these guys in the short term so they can't bring back he who shant be mentioned.

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Wonder how often they will quote Zetterberg's line about creating chances... for both teams.

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Wonder how often they will quote Zetterberg's line about creating chances... for both teams.
How about showing them our GDT's from the Chicago series?

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Remember when people tried to argue that Holland was a "genius" for keeping prospects buried so long, because it would save him money for their 1st contract after their ELC expired?

Yeah, I guess that doesn't always work.
And what multimillions are you predicting him to get?

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How about showing them our GDT's from the Chicago series?
Or Romersworld's posts about him.

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WTF........This makes no sense.

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During the summer of 2002, Brendan Morrison of the Canucks was a man being compared to a mouse. During a salary arbitration hearing, an attorney arguing on behalf of the team tried to minimize Morrison's contributions to Vancouver's just-concluded season by likening linemates Todd Bertuzzi and Markus Naslund to elephants.
"'But for the elephant, [Morrison] never would have been able to get across the swaying bridge,' I still remember the lawyer, in a French accent, telling the arbiter," says Morrison's agent, Denver-based Kurt Overhardt. "'Monsieur arbiter, can we agree that the linemates are the elephant, and player X is the mouse?' It was hilarious. By then, my client was laughing so hard he was turning beet red. Even the guys from the league who were monitoring the whole thing were laughing."
Morrison, who had set career-highs for goals (23), assists (44) and points (67) and was plus-18 that season, laughed last after the hearing. His $775,000 salary tripled as part of a two-year, $4.6 million settlement awarded by an independent third-party. It was the second-highest arbitration increase to that point in league history.

Horror stories from old arbitration cases remain cautionary tales for both teams and players, such as the time in 1997 when former New York Islanders GM Mike Milbury reportedly reduced Tommy Salo to tears with reasons why the goalie didn't deserve his asking price.
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And what multimillions are you predicting him to get?
Unless they get him to 4-5 yr contract at 2.5-3 mil, I agree. And I don't see them doing that.

Second contract is always small unless you're a star.

Subban got what, 2.8 mil?

Leddy 2.7 mil.

Kulikov 2.5 mil.

And if Smith could make a case for that type of money, he would also be much better player.

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If the buyout thing really is true, I bet the Wings asked him to do this.

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