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07-13-2013, 07:23 PM
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Hemsky to Florida seems reasonable, especially if we're taking back salary. They only have Kopecky on the right?
Sean Bergenhiem has been mentioned here a few times, he'd fit in well on the 3rd line LW.

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Decent, but isn't Goc injury prone? I don't think that would be good for our bottom 6.
You might be right, but he played 42 games last years.

Looking at Florida's roster, there's a nice fit there.

To FLA: Hemsky and N. Schultz

To EDM: Kopecky and Bergenheim


Florida gets a cheap-ish one year vet (they only have 5 NHL defensemen under contract and legit top-6 winger.

Oilers get depth and take Bergenheim's ugly contract.

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Ponikarovsky... size... skill... some physicality...LW

...good fit for that #3LW spot on the Oilers.

I'm surprised he hasn't attracted more interest as of yet.

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07-13-2013, 07:35 PM
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Penner will not be signing here, so let's move on.

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I read an article about the Oilers going after Phaneuf so I brought up the topic with a Leaf's friend of mine and we agreed upon a deal, so tell me what ya guys think.

To: TOR
D Nick Schultz
D Gernat/Musil/Marincin
2015 2nd

To: EDM
D Dion Phaneuf (35% retained)
Your friend agreed because he was under the impression that Nick Schultz was in fact Justin Schultz...

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Ponikarovsky... size... skill... some physicality...LW

...good fit for that #3LW spot on the Oilers.

I'm surprised he hasn't attracted more interest as of yet.
Yes, he would definitely be a better 3rd line fit then Penner, maybe if it gets later in the summer and he's still there.

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You might be right, but he played 42 games last years.

Looking at Florida's roster, there's a nice fit there.

To FLA: Hemsky and N. Schultz

To EDM: Kopecky and Bergenheim


Florida gets a cheap-ish one year vet (they only have 5 NHL defensemen under contract and legit top-6 winger.

Oilers get depth and take Bergenheim's ugly contract.
Florida will never trade Kopecky.

And if we're moving Hemsky to Florida, you move heaven and Earth to get Brian Campbell from them.

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Florida will never trade Kopecky.

And if we're moving Hemsky to Florida, you move heaven and Earth to get Brian Campbell from them.
Fair enough, maybe try to get Goc and a later pick instead of him. Still give the Oilers some depth.

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Wouldn't take Phaneuf for free...

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Wouldn't take Phaneuf for free...
Yes you would

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Wouldn't take Phaneuf for free...
Don't be ridiculous, Phaneuf would immediately be our best defender and a big improvement on our blue line. The only reason why we show no interest is because the cost to acquire him is unreasonable to the output he would provide compared to cheaper alternatives.

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Wouldn't take Phaneuf for free...
i am with you, Phaneuf makes almost consistently 1 or 2 bone headed plays a game.

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Tim Connolly would be a good depth C for the Oilers. He seems to have fallen off the planet but certainly in a 4th line role he would be much better than what the Oilers have now which is essentially nothing down there.

He'd have to take a huge pay cut from his last contract... but he'd be a really nice piece to add to the C depth on the team. I know he has injury concerns but that's one of the reasons he'd have to be signed cheap... and there's no way you get a player with that type of upside without some risk as well.

If he could be signed cheap enough it would be a very solid move. I would imagine Eakins knows Connolly well coming from that org... thing is he wouldn't be expected to play a top 6 role... so he wouldn't have huge pressure to produce huge numbers BUT when injuries do happen in the lineup... and they will... he could slide up the chart quite easily (much better than a player like Lander/Acton).

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i am with you, Phaneuf makes almost consistently 1 or 2 bone headed plays a game.
Better then the 3 to 4 most of our dmen make per game.

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Tim Connolly would be a good depth C for the Oilers. He seems to have fallen off the planet but certainly in a 4th line role he would be much better than what the Oilers have now which is essentially nothing down there.

He'd have to take a huge pay cut from his last contract... but he'd be a really nice piece to add to the C depth on the team. I know he has injury concerns but that's one of the reasons he'd have to be signed cheap... and there's no way you get a player with that type of upside without some risk as well.

If he could be signed cheap enough it would be a very solid move. I would imagine Eakins knows Connolly well coming from that org... thing is he wouldn't be expected to play a top 6 role... so he wouldn't have huge pressure to produce huge numbers BUT when injuries do happen in the lineup... and they will... he could slide up the chart quite easily (much better than a player like Lander/Acton).

i have always liked Connolly; having said that this is a guy that has just been riddled by injuries his whole career. He is a gamer, and if he can even play a diminished role he's well worth it just for that pedigree he brings. The only thing you have to wonder is if he can even play at a high level anymore.

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Better then the 3 to 4 most of our dmen make per game.
yea, but unless you have a coach that's going to out you (i see not necessarily entitlement with Phaneuf but hes just so unapologetic about it) how will we have our young d-man not take his bad example.

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I'd MUCH rather have Franson than Phaneuf from the Leafs.

I've been on the Franson train for ages saying he would be a solid addition and most said he was junk. Well turns out the guy is a fricken diamond. It would be a huge cost to get him now. Shows how well people on these boards can judge talent.

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07-13-2013, 08:42 PM
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Hemsky for Bergenheim + Goc would probably enough for MacT to call it a summer.

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Not the prettiest lineup, but could be interesting. I think Klefbom will start in the AHL until he's doing so well he's forcing his way onto the roster. He missed a year of development. I doubt they throw him onto into the big show.

The biggest concern would be RNH. Hall took a good while to get into gear after his surgery. And he was lucky enough to have the ability to play in the AHL before. RNH, unfortunately, will probably have to get accustomed to the NHL rigors right away.

Is that a playoff roster? Well we're closer now with Perron than MPS, but apart from that? I'm not sure.


Also, someone mentioned Franson, he wants 3.5-4M/yr from the Leafs is what the rumor is. Hence why he's unsigned.

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Sean Bergenhiem has been mentioned here a few times, he'd fit in well on the 3rd line LW.
I've always been a huge Sean Bergenheim fan, even back when he first started with the Isles. I'd love to see him on the 3rd line.

Is he healthy now?

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Could we finally get our hands on Devante Smith-Pelly? They could use a 2nd line RW considering they have quite a young offensive group now. Maybe Hemsky and 2015 2nd?

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I would do Hemsky for Bergenheim, then I'd sign Steckel and Mueller

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Just sayin'... I'd take Phaneuf considering that I doubt Toronto could ask for much since he's on the last year of his contract.

Yeah, it's 6.5M... big whoop. Give him a year, if he pans out, great. If he doesn't, you can let him walk as a UFA after the year. Or peddle him away at the deadline for an asset.

Don't give him the pressure of a letter, just let him play his game. Punish people who enter the zone.

Who knows, we may like having that physical threat on the blue line. No, he isn't Pronger (I still think that some of us are expecting the next Pronger in Oiler blue any day now), but he'll lay out the pain every now and again.

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Tim Connolly would be a good depth C for the Oilers. He seems to have fallen off the planet but certainly in a 4th line role he would be much better than what the Oilers have now which is essentially nothing down there.

He'd have to take a huge pay cut from his last contract... but he'd be a really nice piece to add to the C depth on the team. I know he has injury concerns but that's one of the reasons he'd have to be signed cheap... and there's no way you get a player with that type of upside without some risk as well.

If he could be signed cheap enough it would be a very solid move. I would imagine Eakins knows Connolly well coming from that org... thing is he wouldn't be expected to play a top 6 role... so he wouldn't have huge pressure to produce huge numbers BUT when injuries do happen in the lineup... and they will... he could slide up the chart quite easily (much better than a player like Lander/Acton).
That could be a good depth move.

But he's barely an NHL player at the moment.

I can see him as a camp invite in either NYI or Buffalo.

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I would do Hemsky for Bergenheim, then I'd sign Steckel and Mueller

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It's kinda depressing how unintimidating we are.

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I really like the Bergenheim idea. Might be good to move for Florida if Hemsky's salary is reduced, and they can get an offensive player to pair with Huburdeau-Barkov-(Hemsky) (if he is coming over). Goc would a good addition too, depends on what they want back if Hemsky isn't enough.

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