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Jacob Markstrom to Edmonton?

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07-11-2013, 11:38 AM
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Jacob Markstrom to Edmonton?

I am not sure what LaBarbera or Bachman do for the organization. I am not dumping on Dubnyk either, he has some more reliable defence in front of him these days to perform at an all-time high.

What would Craig MacTavish have to offer in order to get Dale Tallon's attention?

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07-11-2013, 11:40 AM
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Markstrom's solidified as part of their core prospects to build around (Markstrom, Gudbranson, Huberdeau, Barkov). He's not moving without an equally valuable piece coming back in.

FLA have so many prospects. No quantity for quality will work for them or Tallon. IMO.

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07-11-2013, 11:43 AM
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I am not sure what LaBarbera or Bachman do for the organization. I am not dumping on Dubnyk either, he has some more reliable defence in front of him these days to perform at an all-time high.

What would Craig MacTavish have to offer in order to get Dale Tallon's attention?
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2014 1st

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07-11-2013, 11:46 AM
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2014 1st

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Wow. You know those rare moments when you read a proposal on HF and can't see a lopsided winner.....

Pretty interesting for both teams.

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It would HAVE to include one of the Big 4. And we all know how that discussion goes...

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07-11-2013, 11:53 AM
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2014 1st

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Good lord. This is actually pretty close. Swap in one of the blue chip defense prospects for that first rounder, though.

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07-11-2013, 11:55 AM
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We don't have the greatest goalie pool, I'll give you that.

We tried to sign a Euro FA at the end of the season, but he ended up going elsewhere.

Trading for a goalie rarely works out.

And yes, it would be a king's ransom for a organisation's best goalie prospect.

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07-11-2013, 11:58 AM
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lakai, it's more than we can afford. Pointless thread.

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Good lord. This is actually pretty close. Swap in one of the blue chip defense prospects for that first rounder, though.
Then it wouldn't be close.
Yakupov>/=Markstrom
Nurse/Klefbom>Bjugstad>/=2014 1st

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Why would Florida trade Markstrom? Longterm potential core pieces on Florida

Centre - Barkov/Bjugstad/Grimaldi/etc
Winger - Huberdeau/Versteeg/Fleishmann/etc
Defence - Kulikov/Gudbransson/Campbell/Matheson/etc

Goaltending - Markstrom/nobody

If they trade Markstrom... Theyd be doing it for what reason? They have potentially high-end pieces in all positions right now. Theyll probably have to find a top 6 winger and top 4 dman at some point, but those are a lot easier to find than legitimate starting goaltenders that you can win the Cup with.

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This thread needs some perspective.

Corey Schneider fetched a 9th overall pick.

Why would we trade a 1st overall winger with dynamite scoring touch PLUS a 1st round pick next year for a goaltending prospect???

Use your heads guys. This ridiculous Homerism and over valuing of assets is why the trade board is just hopeless.

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07-11-2013, 12:04 PM
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If Yakupov AND next years first are going to FL, Barkov is coming back










With Markstrom.

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07-11-2013, 12:04 PM
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This thread needs some perspective. Corey Schneider fetched a 9th overall pick.
This post needs some perspective. That trade should not be used as a measuring stick for player value. Not that it was far off, mind you, but there's obviously some context there. Prying the Panthers' goalie of the future away probably takes some more doing than swooping in to take advantage of a desperate GM who absolutely has to trade one of his two goalies.


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07-11-2013, 12:08 PM
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No deal to be made here.

Florida has no depth in net, Edmonton has zero interest in moving Yakupov (only way Yakupov or Eberle move is for a legitimate number 1 defensman and yes i realize there not worth that but thats the price it would take for Edmonton to even think about it)

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Never going to happen. Markstrom is a part of our Future. He is our #1 goalie that we have been preparing for a while.

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07-11-2013, 12:11 PM
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This thread needs some perspective.

Corey Schneider fetched a 9th overall pick.

Why would we trade a 1st overall winger with dynamite scoring touch PLUS a 1st round pick next year for a goaltending prospect???

Use your heads guys. This ridiculous Homerism and over valuing of assets is why the trade board is just hopeless.
You didn't add in the fact that bjugstad was in there as well cause ur a homer also. Yak +1st 2014 for markstrom and bjugstad is fair value.

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07-11-2013, 12:14 PM
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Undervalueing of Yakupov is pretty short sighted here. Markstrom is a good prospect, but he hasn't proven anything. Yakupov was the top scoring rookie last year. He's a recent first overall who's actually played in the NHL.

Barkov hasn't played a game yet. So explain to me how Barkov and Markstrom have more value than a scoring top 6 winger who has 40 goal potential and a likely high first rounder ?

Don't even know why I'm bothering. Should have just stayed away.
The problem is everything you just said also applies to both prospects lol. Markstrom played on a horrible florida squad this year and didnt get blown out, and barkov is a recent 2nd overall pick with similar skill to yak with size as well. Stop over valuing your prospects and other posters will stop undervaluing them on purpose to get a rise out of you.

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okay then.

Devan Dubnyk + Jordan Eberle + Olivier Roy or 2014 1st

for

Jacob Markstrom + Scottie Upshall

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okay then.

Devan Dubnyk + Jordan Eberle + Olivier Roy or 2014 1st

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Jacob Markstrom + Scottie Upshall
Oilers say no.

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This thread needs some perspective.

Corey Schneider fetched a 9th overall pick.

Why would we trade a 1st overall winger with dynamite scoring touch PLUS a 1st round pick next year for a goaltending prospect???

Use your heads guys. This ridiculous Homerism and over valuing of assets is why the trade board is just hopeless.
Schneider only fetched a 9th overall pick because Gillis was completely handcuffed and had no leverage to get more. If Gillis wasn't handcuffed or was a better GM he could have gotten more for Schneider. So you can't really use that deal as a benchmark for Markstroms value.

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okay then.

Devan Dubnyk + Jordan Eberle + Olivier Roy or 2014 1st

for

Jacob Markstrom + Scottie Upshall

Eberle as of right now is the best player in the deal and if your gonna deal a talented top line forward for potential you better make sure it's for atleast two potential higher end pieces to minimize your risk.

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07-11-2013, 12:19 PM
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Schneider only fetched a 9th overall pick because Gillis was completely handcuffed and had no leverage to get more. If Gillis wasn't handcuffed or was a better GM he could have gotten more for Schneider. So you can't really use that deal as a benchmark for Markstroms value.
Markstrom also needs to put up better numbers and actually play a few seasons in the nhl before you can consider him to have the same value as the new ginger devil.

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Amazing how before Yakupov put on an Oilers shirt he was being compared to Stamkos type company but, once he puts on that shirt, he automatically just degenerates into a prospect who's worth less than a guy who hasn't even played in the NHL yet


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Well, Bernier fetched less than Schneider if you want comparables. For an unproven prospect, I would go something like Musil and a 2nd at best.
Another dissimilar situation? Yay!

Show me where the Panthers have Markstrom logjammed behind a top 3 goalie in the NHL, who's young himself.

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This thread needs some perspective.
Corey Schneider fetched a 9th overall pick.
That trade needed some perspective. Vancouver's hands were pretty much tied.

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That's ridiculous. Not sure MacTavish would be willing to make such a bad trade so early in his career.

Why does Edmonton need Markstrom?

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