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07-12-2013, 10:40 AM
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I've read from multiple places that the Kovi contract was ownerships decision and Lou was against it.

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07-12-2013, 10:41 AM
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I think he's one of the better GM's in the league still. I'd put him in a category with Jim Rutherford, both make some bad moves occasionally but are good GM's.
How is he on par with an average GM?

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07-12-2013, 10:48 AM
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He's ok. That's it. He's not bad, he's not excellent.

Can we just please admit that?

No. He's been inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in the builder category. I am more prone to believe the HHOF selection committee knows who constitute the most prominent front-office personnel in the history of the sport, than some random internetizen with a hate-on.

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Maybe not the best anymore but one of the most respected league-wide
Then why do all of his players not want to play for him?
ie, they all leave via free agents.

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07-12-2013, 10:49 AM
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No. He's been inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in the builder category. I am more prone to believe the HHOF selection committee knows who constitute the most prominent front-office personnel in the history of the sport, than some random internetizen with a hate-on.
Well to be fair Sather was inducted in 94 I believe, and his record since then has be awful.

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07-12-2013, 10:50 AM
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I think that many GM's are better than him such as Murray.

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Then why do all of his players not want to play for him?
ie, they all leave via free agents.
They all go home.

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07-12-2013, 11:10 AM
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Lol at this thread popping up after Kovy screws everyone over
Exactly. More slash & burn by the HF braintrust. Lou has made his fair share of mistakes but IMO he's done an excellent job with a a chaotic franchise in an apathetic market.

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07-12-2013, 11:12 AM
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Then why do all of his players not want to play for him?
ie, they all leave via free agents.
Can't beat family/geography.

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07-12-2013, 11:14 AM
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Then why do all of his players not want to play for him?
ie, they all leave via free agents.
Ignorant post.

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07-12-2013, 11:16 AM
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Was great pre-cap, good post-cap (mostly because most GMs have been worse post-cap). People judge him based on his excellent record before the cap and he hasn't maintained his own standard, but compared to other GMs around the league he's still much better

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07-12-2013, 11:20 AM
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Lou's glory years were from 1990-2003, if you ask me. Drafted well, kept talent, made smart moves, etc.

He's struggled with the cap, and has just suffered unfortunate break after unfortunate break.

Keeping the 29th was a ****ing stupid decision, no denying that. I think the penalty will somehow be lifted, especially if the Devils are horrible this year (which I suspect they will be).
Why do you expect the penalty will be lifted?

I don't see any reason for it to be, it makes no difference if you guys have a high pick this year as you could have forfeited the 29th pick when you had the chance.

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07-12-2013, 11:22 AM
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Take away one of the greatest goalies of all time who had insane longevity and I'd reckon that number would be much much smaller. Just sayin.

If Brodeur goes #11 in 1990 rather than Trevor Kidd, Lamoriello and the Devils history goes very different.
take away lidstrom and the red wings dont have their success.. take away sakic and they avs dont have their success..you argument is well pretty dumb..5 eastern conference championships and 3 stanley cups in the last 18 years. the devils and the red wings have been the two most successfull franchises in the last 20 years for a reason.

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07-12-2013, 11:26 AM
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I've read from multiple places that the Kovi contract was ownerships decision and Lou was against it.
He still has to be responsible for it. IF he felt that strongly about it he should have threatened to quit and taken a firm stand.
I still think he's an above average GM. The Schneider trade was a great one for the team, IMO. But he has to wear this whole Kovy fiasco. Traded some good assets to get him, signed a 17 year deal that rubbed the NHL's face in the contract so they took away a first round pick, and then didn't opt to give up the pick the year they made it to the finals. How could he have played this whole Kovy fiasco any worse.


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07-12-2013, 11:32 AM
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An ESPN article (go figure) said it best about the setback of Kovy:

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And this, of course, is the Devils we're talking about. They always seem to take punches -- only to deliver the final blow.
There is a reason why NJ has consistently been among the best in this league and its LL. Not making the flashiest moves by any means, but always getting players cheap, using them well, and staying patient.

As much as people bleat on about how great it is to make the playoffs every year, NJ has missed them only thrice in the last 24 years (made the post season 5/7 years post lockout) and they have actually won the only hardware that matters.

My opinion is that reports of their demise are greatly exaggerated. They will make moves to remain competitive. And no, I'm not a NJD fan.

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07-12-2013, 11:34 AM
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Then why do all of his players not want to play for him?
ie, they all leave via free agents.
id be willing to bet the devils have the most players that leave and then come back than any other organization. wonder why? also when your so good at obtaining talent there are gonna be more guys you notice leaving. many have stayed. have you ever wondered why your avs havent been able to get back to the organization they were before the 05 lockout yet we constantly stayed competitive? we survived losing niedermayer and stevens what happened to you guys when you lost forsberg and sakic? basically what im gettin at is if lou is so bad what does it make of your former gm PL who put together a great team for 10 years like lou did, but then completly fell apart and had to start from scracth unlike lou. or how do you compare lou to any gm who hasnt even had the sucess that PL had? lou is obvioulsy one of the best gms. he's gotten his team to 5 stanley cups and won 3 of them. only the red wings have had more success in the last 20 years.

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07-12-2013, 11:35 AM
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And yet the Devils were 2 wins away from a cup a year ago even though he is a 'bad' gm.

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07-12-2013, 11:39 AM
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Take away one of the greatest goalies of all time who had insane longevity and I'd reckon that number would be much much smaller. Just sayin.

If Brodeur goes #11 in 1990 rather than Trevor Kidd, Lamoriello and the Devils history goes very different.
You know this applies to every team in the league right? You can't discredit Lou's work like this.

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07-12-2013, 11:41 AM
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Becoming more and more senile every year.
I must admit he can dance around this Kovi screwup all he wants. But he was caught with his pants down making it easier for Kovalchuk to have his way with him. This has set this team back big time. Plus he really screwed up by not giving up his #1 pick in 2012. Yep the old man is slipping.

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07-12-2013, 11:47 AM
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Not a good salary cap GM. Has lost nearly every star the Devils have ever had.

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07-12-2013, 11:47 AM
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Is it just me or is the amount of respect/trust/etc he receives getting out of hand?

At this point, it seems Lou is the smartest GM ever, and that's it.

Yeah, he's a good GM but I'm so sick of hearing him basically touted as the number one hockey mind.

Can we all admit he's not as awesome as a lot of Devils fans claim he is?
why is this thread being made when he just did alot of work making the devils a potential contender over the offseason before kovy retired? He still is the best.

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07-12-2013, 02:21 PM
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Exactly. More slash & burn by the HF braintrust. Lou has made his fair share of mistakes but IMO he's done an excellent job with a a chaotic franchise in an apathetic market.
Better watch it or you'll be banned.

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07-12-2013, 02:31 PM
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It's one thing to bottom feed and build a contender out of that core but it's quite a different story to keep a team as high as Lou did for as long as he did . Lou's made mistakes , what GM hasn't but right now he still has to be considered in the top 5 as GM's go .

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Holy crap I'm drunk. My point is: Yes, he's a good GM, but why on Earth is his constantly looked at as this excellent GM and some incredible hockey mind?

He's ok. That's it. He's not bad, he's not excellent.

Can we just please admit that?
Because he is an excellent GM and an incredible hockey mind.

"Ok" General Manager don't have 3 Championships in the post-dynasty era, 5 Finals appearances in 17 years, and get inducted into the HHoF.

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I would love him to be gm of my team, the Kovalchuk saga has nothing to do with Lou, it dosent take away from is awsome work in the past.

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