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Oilers top 6 vs Leafs top 6

View Poll Results: Oilers top 6 vs Leafs top 6
Oilers fan saying Oilers 81 27.46%
Leafs fan saying Leafs 33 11.19%
Non Oilers fan saying Oilers 152 51.53%
Non Leafs fan saying Leafs 29 9.83%
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07-14-2013, 11:09 AM
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Oilers top 6. But I think Toronto might have the best top 9 in the league. Not even joking.
Colorado counters

O'Reilly - Duchene - Parenteau
Landeskog - Stastny - Tanguay
McGinn - MacKinnon - Downie

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07-14-2013, 11:10 AM
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Colorado counters

O'Reilly - Duchene - Parenteau
Landeskog - Stastny - Tanguay
McGinn - MacKinnon - Downie
This poll really should be Colorado vs Edmonton.

Talk about dynamic offensive players...

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07-14-2013, 11:24 AM
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Strange question. Should have made it for just next year.

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07-14-2013, 11:27 AM
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Edmonton's top 6 really lacks size, may look good on paper but unless the league is going to non touch hockey it really is not an imposing top 6.

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07-14-2013, 11:28 AM
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I'm a leafs fan, and I'm saying Edmonton

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07-14-2013, 11:30 AM
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Just like the Kessel trade, this is based on potential, not reality.

Leaf top 6 wins this poll.

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07-14-2013, 11:30 AM
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Last 2 Years:

W P.Kessel (26): 130gms, 57gls, 134pts, 28ht, 44bk, 19:57 (82gms, 36gls, 85pts, 18ht, 28bk)
W T.Hall (22): 106gms, 43gls, 103pts, 68ht, 54bk, 18:28 (82gms, 33gls, 80pts, 53ht, 42bk)

W J.Lupul (30): 82gms, 36gls, 85pts, 141ht, 32bk, 18:07 (82gms, 36gls, 85pts, 141ht, 32bk)
W J.Eberle (23): 126gms, 50gls, 113pts, 76ht, 40bk, 18:07 (82gms, 33gls, 74pts, 50ht, 26bk)

C N.Kadri (23): 69gms, 23gls, 51pts, 87ht, 27bk, 15:29 (82gms, 27gls, 61pts, 103ht, 32bk)
C R.N-Hopkins (20): 102gms, 22gls, 76pts, 65ht, 60bk, 18:06 (82gms, 18gls, 61pts, 52ht, 48bk)

C T.Bozak (27): 119gms, 30gls, 75pts, 182ht, 57bk, 19:41 (82gms, 21gls, 52pts, 125ht, 39bk)
C S.Gagner (24): 123gms, 32gls, 85pts, 56ht, 45bk, 18:01 (82gms, 21gls, 57pts, 37ht, 30bk)

W J.VanRiemsdyk (24): 91gms, 29gls, 56pts, 92ht, 33bk, 17:15 (82gms, 26gls, 51pts, 83ht, 30bk)
W N.Yakupov (20): 48gms, 17gls, 31pts, 41ht, 14bk, 14:34 (82gms, 29gls, 53pts, 70ht, 24bk)

W D.Clarkson (29): 128gms, 45gls, 70pts, 253ht, 25bk, 16:50 (82gms, 29gls, 45pts, 162ht, 16bk)
W D.Perron (25): 105gms, 31gls, 67pts, 80ht, 24bk, 18:10 (82gms, 24gls, 52pts, 63ht, 19bk)
David Clarkson has 3 fewer goals than Kovy had the last 2 seasons. Just thought I would throw that in there. It's not like he was playing for Ron Wilson or Ralph Krueger.

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07-14-2013, 11:54 AM
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Its not really a hard choice, if I needed to win NOW I'd probably choose TO because they are older have a more experienced top 6 and probably well out score the Oilers top 6 next season.

But going forward into the next few season you'd have to be nuts not to take the oilers top 6, its pretty insane with top 10 talent

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07-14-2013, 12:47 PM
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I don't like how soft the Oilers are but that can be fixed easier than adding top end talent

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07-14-2013, 12:48 PM
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Easily leafs ha

Top 6 ain't only about offense. Clarkson alone would smack the oilers softest top 6 in tha league


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07-14-2013, 12:55 PM
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Offensively it's the Oilers.

BUT, I'm taking this question in the sense of who I would rather have in the playoffs if I'm trying to win a cup. That's why I voted Leafs. All non-offensive factors are in Toronto's favour, which makes me believe they would win a head to head matchup of top 6s. Oilers will see soon that they need more size and strength in the top 6 to compete in the playoffs.

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07-14-2013, 12:55 PM
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Oilers easily have more talent, so probably them but that's a really, really small top-6. One of the kinds that I'd love the Bruins to face. Gotta pick Edmonton here, though. Better talent and will be better in 5.

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07-14-2013, 01:00 PM
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Not a big deal but I think the Oilers top 6 looks best as:

Hall - Gagner - Yakupov
Perron - RNH - Eberle

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07-14-2013, 01:07 PM
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Yah kinda agree with the sentiment that the Leafs will probably outproduce the oilers next year and maybe the one after but there is more high end talent with the Oilers. Toronto is undoubtedly more balanced given that they have 3 power forward types (JVR,Lupul,Clarkson) but their center depth (see Bozak) hurts them...Kessel is the best player on either team currently production wise....In 5 years who knows what either team will look like but for now the Oilers have more shinny new toys...will they win? Who knows..

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Kessel is the best of the bunch, but this one is Oiler's easily, now and going forward.

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07-14-2013, 01:16 PM
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Some people think Cogliano, Gagner, and Nilsson are comparable to Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, and Yakupov.

Go figure.


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07-14-2013, 01:17 PM
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In terms of raw talent, the Oilers.

In terms of NHL production against another team over 82 games, the Leafs.

Edmonton is running a pretty small top 6. Push them around a bit and the talent isn't nearly as much a factor. They lack balance.

A very HF poll though.

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07-14-2013, 01:22 PM
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If we're talking about production, it's the leafs. A lot of the Oilers youngsters are unproven
2012-13...

Taylor Hall- 45 GP, 50 pts (1.11 PPG)
Phil Kessel-48 GP 52 pts (1.08 PPG)

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins- 40 GP, 24 pts (0.60 PPG)
Tyler Bozak- 46 GP, 28 pts (0.61 PPG)

Sam Gagner- 48 GP, 38 pts (0.79 PPG)
Nazem Kadri- 48 GP 44 pts (0.92 PPG)

James Van Riemsdyk- 48 GP, 32 pts (0.67 PPG)
Jordan Eberle- 48 GP, 37 pts (0.77 PPG)

And the new guys even though did not play on their teams last year...

Daivd Clarkson- 48 GP 24 pts (0.50 PPG)
David Perron- 48 GP 25 pts (0.52 PPG)

If the Oilers are unproven offense what does that make Leafs I wonder...

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this. leafs offense has been significantly better than the oilers offense the past few years.
Except it has not been...

2008-09: Toronto 2.98 GF/G Edmonton 2.78 GF/G (0.20 GF/G gap)
2009-10: Toronto 2.56 GF/G Edmonton 2.51 GF/G (0.05 GF/G gap)
2010-11: Toronto 2.60 GF/G Edmonton 2.33 GF/G (0.27 GF/G gap)
2011-12: Toronto 2.77 GF/G Edmonton 2.52 GF/G (0.25 GF/G gap)

Unless you would cal la quarter of a goal per game (20 goals over a whole season) "significant" the Leafs have been better but not by much... 2012-13 is the only major difference

2012-13: Toronto 3.02 GF/G Edmonton 2.56 GF/G (0.46 GF/G)

But this was a result of Oilers playing a defense first system under a now unemployed coach and the Leafs actually having third line scoring... as we see above top sixes produced at nearly similar paces/final numbers


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07-14-2013, 01:38 PM
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In terms of NHL production against another team over 82 games, the Leafs.
That's weird... last 82 game season both teams played...

Kessel- 82 GP 82 pts (1.0 PPG)
Hall- 61 GP 53 pts (0.87 PPG)

Bozak- 73 GP 47 pts (0.64 PPG)
Gagner- 75 GP 47 pts (0.63 PPG)

Lupul- 66 GP 66 pts (1.01 PPG)
Eberle- 78 GP 76 pts (0.97 PPG)

Grabovski- 74 GP 51 pts (0.69 PPG)
RNH- 62 GP 52 pts (0.84 PPG)

Then Smyth had 46 pts to MacArthur's 43... and Hemsky and Connolly each had 36 points... this despite Oilers offense being much younger... weird

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Edmonton is running a pretty small top 6. Push them around a bit and the talent isn't nearly as much a factor. They lack balance.
Yes the Leafs are hulking beasts...

Hall- 6'1
Kessel- 6'0

Joffrey Lupul- 6'1
Jordan Eberle- 5'11

Nazem Kadri- 6'0
Sam Gagner- 5'11

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins- 6'1
Tyler Bozak- 6'1

David Clarkson- 6'1
David Perron- 6'0

James van Riemsdyk- 6'3
Nail Yakupov- 5'11

That settles it... because one player has more than an inch on another the Leafs would brutalize EDM...


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As an oilers fan I voted oilers. I do agree with the leafs argument that they are too soft. However in the next five years the oilers could have one of the best top sixes in the league. The oilers are only going up. Whereas the leafs are basically topped out unless they add a better 1C than Bozak.

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I think its the Oilers, but in some ways its "men vs. boys" and the Leafs are the men.

Regardless, the Oilers is better.

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07-14-2013, 02:04 PM
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Toronto, seriously stop hating the Leafs so much and being biased everyone. Edmonton will be like Montreal unless they don't get some big forwards. Toronto will smack around Edmonton.

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That's weird... last 82 game season both teams played...

Kessel- 82 GP 82 pts (1.0 PPG)
Hall- 61 GP 53 pts (0.87 PPG)

Bozak- 73 GP 47 pts (0.64 PPG)
Gagner- 75 GP 47 pts (0.63 PPG)

Lupul- 66 GP 66 pts (1.01 PPG)
Eberle- 78 GP 76 pts (0.97 PPG)

Grabovski- 74 GP 51 pts (0.69 PPG)
RNH- 62 GP 52 pts (0.84 PPG)

Then Smyth had 46 pts to MacArthur's 43... and Hemsky and Connolly each had 36 points... this despite Oilers offense being much younger... weird



Yes the Leafs are hulking beasts...

Hall- 6'1
Kessel- 6'0

Joffrey Lupul- 6'1
Jordan Eberle- 5'11

Nazem Kadri- 6'0
Sam Gagner- 5'11

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins- 6'1
Tyler Bozak- 6'1

David Clarkson- 6'1
David Perron- 6'0

James van Riemsdyk- 6'3
Nail Yakupov- 5'11

That settles it... because one player has more than an inch on another the Leafs would brutalize EDM...



In that the Leafs are not winning it? Must seem like it I guess...
Yes because physicality is measured in height...

Clarkson 6'1 and RNH 6'1? must play with the same physicality


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Yes the Leafs are hulking beasts...

Hall- 6'1
Kessel- 6'0

Joffrey Lupul- 6'1
Jordan Eberle- 5'11

Nazem Kadri- 6'0
Sam Gagner- 5'11

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins- 6'1
Tyler Bozak- 6'1

David Clarkson- 6'1
David Perron- 6'0

James van Riemsdyk- 6'3
Nail Yakupov- 5'11

That settles it... because one player has more than an inch on another the Leafs would brutalize EDM...



In that the Leafs are not winning it? Must seem like it I guess...
Lmao that was probably the worst comparison I've ever seen made.

Clarkson will hit Peron so hard he'll forget his name, nobody push JVR around, Kadri plays a physical game for a small guy. He's WAY more physical than Gagner don't even try to compare. Lupul can play with contact and Kessel is well Kessel every team is allowed 1 player like him. Edmonton has like 3 of em.

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People bash Edmonton for not doing anything with their talented roster but there better than Toronto even though we are more accomplished. OK THERE.

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