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07-14-2013, 11:45 PM
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Would take ROR. Not interested in Stastny
That's what I was thinking. Something around ROR+

Guess some people don't like the injury risk though or the Carolina thing

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Avs Fan 1: I want Staal
Rangers Fans: Overpayment, we're not looking to trade him
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YOU ASKED - NOT US


So say he's not available, don't escalate the thread into stupid territory. Staal isn't going to net you a young asset like them without a significant addition.

Or did you think we should just bend over and accept the opinion of some fans that Sather is going to just destroy whatever team he trades with so fair value should go out the window automatically.

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He forget how to play Defense all of the sudden?
Maybe. He got hit in the head pretty hard.

Or maybe he'll just be more reluctant to engage in the physical aspects of the game and blocking shots. A little bit of hesitation can go a long way to wrecking a guy's game.

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Maybe. He got hit in the head pretty hard.

Or maybe he'll just be more reluctant to engage in the physical aspects of the game and blocking shots. A little bit of hesitation can go a long way to wrecking a guy's game.
For the record, he played very timid in his return game in the playoffs and was immediately shut down.

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07-14-2013, 11:49 PM
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That's what I was thinking. Something around ROR+

Guess some people don't like the injury risk though or the Carolina thing
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Every year the "experts" around here doubt the Rangers' trading ability....worked so far right?

If Marc Staal was missing a head Slats' probably still get 100% of his value.

Player is not for sale. If you want him, it's overpayment. If not, he'll be a UFA in 2 years, make a pitch then. It's really that simple. I don't care what you think about him as a player, or his eye or whatever. He's an important player to us and will be an important part of our top 4 next season.

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He forget how to play Defense all of the sudden?
Well eye injuries do tend to have an impact on your sight...

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Ya... the + wouldn't be Elliot.

Anyways, this is pointless to argue. Should just lock'er up.

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For the record, he played very timid in his return game in the playoffs and was immediately shut down.
Which is understandable, and I sincerely hope he comes back next season as good as ever. But the possibility that the injury affects him for years means that the big 3 are off the table. If that means Rangers' fans will be unwilling to trade him, I can respect that.

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So say he's not available, don't escalate the thread into stupid territory. Staal isn't going to net you a young asset like them without a significant addition.

Or did you think we should just bend over and accept the opinion of some fans that Sather is going to just destroy whatever team he trades with so fair value should go out the window automatically.
"You'll never get Rick Nash for Dubinsky, Anisimov, Erixon and a 1st!"

I'll just side with history on this one. I don't give a **** about fair.

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"You'll never get Rick Nash for Dubinsky, Anisimov, Erixon and a 1st!"

I'll just side with history on this one. I don't give a **** about fair.
or you can look at the Ryane Clowe trade.

"no one is going to give multiple picks/prospects for Ryane Clowe"

Sather did that.

The Nash trade doesn't really mean anything.

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Guess I'd do this, though we really don't need Powe. Would maybe make it a 2nd or something instead of Elliott, if that's reasonable.

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or you can look at the Ryane Clowe trade.

"no one is going to give multiple picks/prospects for Ryane Clowe"

Sather did that.

The Nash trade doesn't really mean anything.
No it does. Theres a large difference between Nash and Clowe.


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No it does. Theres a large difference between Nash and Clowe.
You claimed that there wouldn't be 'fair' trades made, but Rangers fans were sticking their noses (myself included) that they wouldn't give up multiple picks for Clowe. So history doesn't actually side with you at all on that one.

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I don't think Sather would deal him, he would get no value coming back if he did.
No value? That's more ridiculous than any of you Avs fans saying that it's ridiculous that we're insane for wanting MacKinnon, Duchene or Landeskog.

Reduced right now? Sure. Sather won't deal him and if he does it won't be anytime soon.

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No it does. Theres a large difference between Nash and Clowe.
Don't you sound completely reasonable. "If it isn't totally lopsided in my team's favor, no deal!" The Nash trade has no bearing on any other. Not every GM is Scott Howson, and Sather winning a trade isn't a prerequisite for any deal.

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07-15-2013, 12:01 AM
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Don't you sound completely reasonable. "If it isn't totally lopsided in my team's favor, no deal!" The Nash trade has no bearing on any other. Not every GM is Scott Howson, and Sather winning a trade isn't a prerequisite for any deal.
Well if we don't want to trade him, then the trade should be to the point where we can't refuse. Otherwise, what's the point? WE DONT WANT TO TRADE HIM.

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Don't you sound completely reasonable. "If it isn't totally lopsided in my team's favor, no deal!" The Nash trade has no bearing on any other. Not every GM is Scott Howson, and Sather winning a trade isn't a prerequisite for any deal.
This. It's irreverent to this discussion.

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Don't you sound completely reasonable. "If it isn't totally lopsided in my team's favor, no deal!" The Nash trade has no bearing on any other. Not every GM is Scott Howson, and Sather winning a trade isn't a prerequisite for any deal.
A trade? Sather has won every trade he's made in NY with the exception of the Lisin/Korpikoski trade, which is a small loss.

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Well if we don't want to trade him, then the trade should be to the point where we can't refuse. Otherwise, what's the point? WE DONT WANT TO TRADE HIM.
I'm sure the OP was unaware of your psychotic attachment, otherwise he never would have made the thread. But that's how we learn.

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I'm sure the OP was unaware of your psychotic attachment, otherwise he never would have made the thread. But that's how we learn.
And I guess you're unaware of what "we don't need to trade him so why settle for anything less than exactly what we want in order to move him" means.

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Guess I'd do this, though we really don't need Powe. Would maybe make it a 2nd or something instead of Elliott, if that's reasonable.
Would be tough for the Rangers since they're so tight against the cap. What was O'Reilly's qualifying offer again?

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Staal isn't expendable. It would require overpayment.

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ROR would almost have to come back, but the Rangers have Stepan, Richards, Brassard, Boyle, Moore, and Miller all who can play C so I'm not sure ROR is a fit.

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Staal isn't expendable. It would require overpayment.
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And I guess you're unaware of what "we don't need to trade him so why settle for anything less than exactly what we want in order to move him" means.
What exactly have I said that seems like an attempt to coerce a trade? I said before that Staal has more value to the Rangers than a team would be willing to give, and that he will not be moved. Your frothy rage has completely blinded you to what people are actually saying.

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