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Florida signs Aleksander Barkov to ELC

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07-15-2013, 05:24 AM
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A lot of people didnt think Barkov was ready for FM-liiga when he first started playing there, but look how wrong they had.. Barkov had an more defensive role his first year, but learned to adjust hes offencive game as well and the year after that he nearly dominated in FM-liiga. Its realy the right thing to have him play in the NHL right away, And maybe put him in a more defensive role if hes offence not working. I realy think thats the best way he develops
Baring an additional free agent signing, I believe that he will initially be the 3rd line center for the Panthers. The Cats are going to give Matthias a chance to hold down the #1 center spot but he's probably not going to work. Goc is the only veteran center on the roster so he will get the other top 6 mins. The Panthers will let Barkov adjust to the smaller ice and speed of the NHL before putting him in a top 6 role. That said, I think that will happen rather quickly and by mid season, he will be at least on the 2nd line. Florida won't be rushing him in any bad ways and while he probably won't be winning the Calder next yr, he will put up decent numbers and not look out of place in the NHL at such a young age.

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A lot of people didnt think Barkov was ready for FM-liiga when he first started playing there, but look how wrong they had.. Barkov had an more defensive role his first year, but learned to adjust hes offencive game as well and the year after that he nearly dominated in FM-liiga. Its realy the right thing to have him play in the NHL right away, And maybe put him in a more defensive role if hes offence not working. I realy think thats the best way he develops
I thought he was ready. Of course he played better than expected but FEL is nothing like NHL no matter how people say they are similar IMO. Barkov was great because of his smarts, FEL lacks players with the kind of hockey sense. Thats why Barkov and Granlund dominated the league. And even though Barkov is big and strong kid he hasnt used to play as physical as needed in NHL. IMO it would be best to develop his offensive game and physicality a bit further for 1 year and then jump into that 3rd C role - wouldnt take long for him to climb up. Now i fear he'll be stuck on that defensive role for longer than people expected.

Granlund is in many ways similar. He competed against older guys all his life and always played better than them. But the transition from FEL to NHL is huge. They dont play quite as physical here and especially the developing of young players lacks the physicality needed for NA. Barkov has the size Granlund doesnt but he will be in for a big surprise that he can no longer dominate with his body - instead the strongest guys will push him around. He will learn and be a force but this rushing aint necessarily the best way.. i hope he proves me wrong though.


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Standard cap hit for 2nd overall picks.
Yup Seguin had a similar ELC

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Does someone know the conditions for the bonuses? I don't have any idea what they usually are
http://www.capgeek.com/faq/how-do-en...racts-work.php

I'm not sure if it's those specific numbers mentioned for all ELCs, or the team and the player can negotiate the details themselves.

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I thought he was ready. Of course he played better than expected but FEL is nothing like NHL no matter how people say they are similar IMO. Barkov was great because of his smarts, FEL lacks players with the kind of hockey sense. Thats why Barkov and Granlund dominated the league. And even though Barkov is big and strong kid he hasnt used to play as physical as needed in NHL. IMO it would be best to develop his offensive game and physicality a bit further for 1 year and then jump into that 3rd C role - wouldnt take long for him to climb up. Now i fear he'll be stuck on that defensive role for longer than people expected.

Granlund is in many ways similar. He competed against older guys all his life and always played better than them. But the transition from FEL to NHL is huge. They dont play quite as physical here and especially the developing of young players lacks the physicality needed for NA. Barkov has the size Granlund doesnt but he will be in for a big surprise that he can no longer dominate with his body - instead the strongest guys will push him around. He will learn and be a force but this rushing aint necessarily the best way.. i hope he proves me wrong though.
You got some great points there, but as you said yourself he has the size granlund lacks and I watched a lot of granlunds games in nhl and the big factor why granlund didnt produced as expected was because he realy got pushed around, barkov is bigger and stronger with longer reach so he sould do much better than granlund in that factor. But you still has some points and I realy hope barkov is working on hes lowerbody strenth now when he realy cant do anything else

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07-15-2013, 07:50 AM
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If anyone is ready for NHL in this draft, it's him.
Can't wait to see what he'll do.
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Standard cap hit for 2nd overall picks.
Or Corban Knight...

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Or Corban Knight...
Yes, it's also standard cap hit for top college FA's (Knight, Schultz, Bozak). Well actually, those guys will get paid like 1st overall picks in terms of cap hit.

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How long till he retires?
he's Finnish, not Russian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander Barkov Jr.

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Yeah, like Selšnne does not yet at 43-year-old know retire or not.

Barkov could have 26 years of NHL career left.

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Yeah, like Selšnne does not yet at 43-year-old know retire or not.

Barkov could have 26 years of NHL career left.
Was thinking of Saku Koivu... but that one is even better

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Yaay Barkov
Best player out of Finland since Selanne.

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In this case I think you are wrong. There is no transcription nor transliteration to latin letters for his name since he was named in latin letters. His name is Aleksander Barkov in his passport. Aleksander Semin's name is Александр Валерьевич Сёмин. So in Barkov's case his name doesn't need to be transliterated since he was named in Finland.
Yeah, his name is simply "Aleksander", and it's a Finnish name so there's no wiggling room for different transcription interpretations. It's a pretty interesting case, though, as he was named after his father, whose name is transcripted from Александр.


Good for both Panthers and Barkov to get the contract signed and out of the way. I'm pretty curious about the bonuses, though.

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Best player out of Finland since Selanne.
Selšnne wasn't as good as a prospect.
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Yeah, his name is simply "Aleksander", and it's a Finnish name so there's no wiggling room for different transcription interpretations. It's a pretty interesting case, though, as he was named after his father, whose name is transcripted from Александр.


Good for both Panthers and Barkov to get the contract signed and out of the way. I'm pretty curious about the bonuses, though.
I find it a little odd that some medias insist on transliteration in Barkov's case. I mean, I sort of get why they do it, but to me it's just another Finnish name that doesn't need transliteration, so it feels weird.

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Welcome aboard, can't wait to see him in a Cats sweater.

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I find it a little odd that some medias insist on transliteration in Barkov's case. I mean, I sort of get why they do it, but to me it's just another Finnish name that doesn't need transliteration, so it feels weird.
Maybe everyone just doesn't know Finland uses Latin letters. Or they are too used to Russian translittered alexanders to mind the few wrong letters. It still sounds the same so it's not that bad. It's not the same as calling Sidney Cindy .

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Obviously, a bust because he is the 7th person to sign from this draft. j/k

Drouin, MacKinnon, Jones, Mccarron, Ristolainen, Domi, Barkov, Lindholm...

I remember one year where like half of the first rounders signed in order.

Seriously, great signing, although obvious. I really like his game and look forward to what he can do. And he gets to play in the NHL rink, IMO,

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Pair him with Huberdeau and he wins the Calder.

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$925k salary plus standard top prospect ELC bonuses
What's the maximum bonus amount right now?

Cap hit seems a bit high, not that it matters of course, but got me curious.

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LOL @ people calling him a sleeper. This kid was as touted as much as the rest of the them, maybe not to the extent of MacKinnon and Jones but this guy isn't a sleeper at all. He was expected to go high and he did.

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