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07-15-2013, 07:55 AM
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Buddy Robinson?

Read through the development thread and he sounds like a gem prospect.... 6'5 236, can skate, good on D and has untapped offensive upside.

Was curious how his compares to someone like Eric Daze? Does he have that type of upside?

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We'd hit the biggest homerun if he becomes anything Daze. His defense is solid. Reports out of Lake Superior Uni said he evolved into a terrific PKer.

His skating is what will surprise you, he moves so quick and protects the puck very well. He also has good offensive toolset and in the few games I seen him in Bingo he created good chances by himself and has a good shot.

We may have a real dark horse one here.

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It will be interesting to see how he plays down here on the farm this coming season. The line combinations are going to have some good balance of size, skill, and speed.

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We'd hit the biggest homerun if he becomes anything Daze. His defense is solid. Reports out of Lake Superior Uni said he evolved into a terrific PKer.

His skating is what will surprise you, he moves so quick and protects the puck very well. He also has good offensive toolset and in the few games I seen him in Bingo he created good chances by himself and has a good shot.

We may have a real dark horse one here.
Thx... I noticed too the Sens ELC was 1.25x3 ... That's like 1st rd pick money

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Thx... I noticed too the Sens ELC was 1.25x3 ... That's like 1st rd pick money
Ya most college free agents get a bigger deal than drafted prospects, due to the fact that other teams can try to entice him as well.

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Surprised Aragorn hasn't come up with some sort of code that alerts him when Robinson is mentioned on HFBoards.

And to The Great Below, that ELC isn't really like 1st round pick money. It's a lot of bonuses and something college FA's get because they could have other teams going after him. Intriguing for sure.

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True... I just seen how his signing bonus was as much as ceci's ... Both contracts are real close but Ceci has more potential performance bonuses.

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Surprised Aragorn hasn't come up with some sort of code that alerts him when Robinson is mentioned on HFBoards.

And to The Great Below, that ELC isn't really like 1st round pick money. It's a lot of bonuses and something college FA's get because they could have other teams going after him. Intriguing for sure.
He has never been a point Producer (outside 1 season of Jr. A), but he is intriguing seeing how his size, and especially skating are considered assets. See how he preforms in Bingo, hope he can put up 30-40 points (longshot if you consider his career avg. but his play in Bingo, while short, was inspiring).

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NCAA has bigger ice... And it seems he was in a defensive role.

This year in Bingo will be big for future projection... I think the smaller ice with his size and speed gives him an advantage to be a better pro then the numbers look like.

I've never watched him... Looking forward to seeing some Bingo games now

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I still don't think it's fair to project him as a Top 6 player.

Unless we have different thoughts on the definition of "gem", I don't think it's fair to attach that label to him.

It's unrealistic that he becomes a full time NHL player, let alone a top 6 player. Still, I don't think we can really project where he will be until he has a full AHL season under his belt.

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A 6'5 235lb player who can skate and kill penalties is a wicked base... Now if he develops 15-20G hands, he'd be a gem.

How many players with that skill set around the league?

Don't need impact offense to be a gem

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I would think 15-20 goals is impact offense. In 12-13 season, only about 90 skaters scored over 20 goals. That'd put him in the top 3 offensive player of most teams.

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I just wish he was a little less "buddy" and a little more mean.

I know it's unfair to expect every big guy to have a mean streak, but I personally find it a big negative.

It doesn't look like this kid has an edge to his game. Now I could be wrong, I only saw 2-3 bingo games and read everyone's reports on dev camp, etc. but if only that could change, he would be a lock for the NHL.

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I would think 15-20 goals is impact offense. In 12-13 season, only about 90 skaters scored over 20 goals. That'd put him in the top 3 offensive player of most teams.
Remember 2012-2013 was not a full season. What was it for 2011-2012?

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A 6'5 235lb player who can skate and kill penalties is a wicked base... Now if he develops 15-20G hands, he'd be a gem.

How many players with that skill set around the league?

Don't need impact offense to be a gem
He sure would, but how many guys who score 13 goals in their first 77 games of NCAA hockey ever develop 15-20 goal hands at the NHL level?

If he can be a 10 goal guy who is defensively responsible and hits like a truck, I'd be ecstatic.

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I just wish he was a little less "buddy" and a little more mean.

I know it's unfair to expect every big guy to have a mean streak, but I personally find it a big negative.

It doesn't look like this kid has an edge to his game. Now I could be wrong, I only saw 2-3 bingo games and read everyone's reports on dev camp, etc. but if only that could change, he would be a lock for the NHL.
Want to know something weird/funny?

I find that a lot (majority for sure) of big hockey players are friendly giants rather than big bruising powerforwards. I've found that all the way from my minor hockey to the professional leagues.

I almost think it's more likely to see a gritty player at 5'9" than one at 6'4".

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If he ever gets a regular shift in the NHL, it's a win.

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I just wish he was a little less "buddy" and a little more mean.

I know it's unfair to expect every big guy to have a mean streak, but I personally find it a big negative.

It doesn't look like this kid has an edge to his game. Now I could be wrong, I only saw 2-3 bingo games and read everyone's reports on dev camp, etc. but if only that could change, he would be a lock for the NHL.
Agree with you. A big guy like that who lacks offensive ability needs to develop a bit of a mean streak to stick, unless he's going to bank on some team needing a PK specialist.

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Want to know something weird/funny?

I find that a lot (majority for sure) of big hockey players are friendly giants rather than big bruising powerforwards. I've found that all the way from my minor hockey to the professional leagues.

I almost think it's more likely to see a gritty player at 5'9" than one at 6'4".
The little guys have to be gritty and tough just to survive (or have unbelievable wheels).

I do think it is possible to develop a mean streak. More likely than suddenly developing great hands, at any rate.


Kid sounds like he could be a good one. A solid addition for Bingo at the very least. Can never have too many good prospects.

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Maybe he'll turn out to be an improved version of Brian Boyle...

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Want to know something weird/funny?

I find that a lot (majority for sure) of big hockey players are friendly giants rather than big bruising powerforwards. I've found that all the way from my minor hockey to the professional leagues.

I almost think it's more likely to see a gritty player at 5'9" than one at 6'4".
A lot of that comes from coaches and parents always chirping at the bigger kids to play nice and not be a big bully.

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Yea I would agree with that stereotype to a large extent. Yeah you have guys like McGratton who would rip your head off, but a ton of fighters are very laid back and happy-go-lucky people.

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Surprised Aragorn hasn't come up with some sort of code that alerts him when Robinson is mentioned on HFBoards.

And to The Great Below, that ELC isn't really like 1st round pick money. It's a lot of bonuses and something college FA's get because they could have other teams going after him. Intriguing for sure.
Interesting, I came into this thread expecting Aragorn to have started it...

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Want to know something weird/funny?

I find that a lot (majority for sure) of big hockey players are friendly giants rather than big bruising powerforwards. I've found that all the way from my minor hockey to the professional leagues.

I almost think it's more likely to see a gritty player at 5'9" than one at 6'4".
Well, I'm 6'3", and I can confirm that "Napoleon Complex" is a real thing... at least, I've been on the other end of it far too many times in my youth: short guy gets drunk, looks for tall guy to pick a fight with. It happens. Most tall dudes learn to deal with "the Shorts" in a non-aggressive way sooner or later. You try to laugh it off, or joke your way out of a conflict, because the last thing you want to be doing on a Saturday night is giving some 5'6" drunk guy a pounding he wouldn't have looked for when sober. It definitely mellows you out after a while.

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