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07-15-2013, 11:34 AM
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Hank's gonna be the first $8 mill a year tender...bank on it...

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As a WPG fan I would easily buy out Jokinen, and likely Pavs too (if we don't have the space already) to sign Henrik. 9m, maybe even 10m, or a blank check. In a couple years when our prospects are coming out of ELC wouldn't be surprised if we won a cup with him behind us.

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07-15-2013, 11:38 AM
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I actually believe he's going to end up taking less money to stay with the Rangers because he loves everything about the city, and his teammates. Yes, I absolutely believe he wants a cup, but I believe his ultimate goal is to win one here.
So was Alfredsson's...

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07-15-2013, 11:39 AM
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prob should have went somewhere other than Detroit then.

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Starts at 7m, STARTS, and good luck from there.

Luckily the cap looks like it will go up quite a bit in the coming years.... But yeah. A LOT. I'm guessing he gets at least 8, if he goes on the market 9 is completely possible.

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07-15-2013, 11:55 AM
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Penguins signing another 7 year/7 mil per contract? They'd be running one line with Henrik on the back end playing 82 games.
Its just so crazy it just might work...

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Henrik, on a team like Chicago or Pittsburgh would simply be too much. I think the idea would be, try to make enough room that you can offer him a virtually blank check and see if you can get a deal done. I could see team's signing him (10% over in the off season) and then dumping their previous starter at below market just to make room for his contract.

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07-15-2013, 12:04 PM
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We'd move Coburn to free up cap space and then we'd throw more money at him than any other team in the league. If you have any doubts about this just look at some of the really really stupid contracts our GM has paid out in the past 5 years.

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07-15-2013, 12:16 PM
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We'd move Coburn to free up cap space and then we'd throw more money at him than any other team in the league. If you have any doubts about this just look at some of the really really stupid contracts our GM has paid out in the past 5 years.
Emery and Mason bro....Jennings trophy winners

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Ridiculous amounts of money. Could see a team like Chicago making room for him and sign him at 8-9m.

Dream scenario, although extremely unlikely, would be:
Islanders youngsters turns out to be an extreme success as early as next year. We win the cup, gains a lot of media hype, Hank gets on the wrong foot with Rangers fans and gets declared unwanted on Manhattan. In revenge he decides to sign with the new brooklyn franchise. Hank and JT leads the isles to a new dynasty!

Remember, DrCrush called it first!

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07-15-2013, 12:58 PM
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I'm somewhat surprised that the consensus so far is still to pay out gobs of money on long-term contracts for goaltenders.

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I think some of these might be optimistic. Why would he sign for 7x7 for 49m? A team in FA would sign him to a 5 year 10m deal easily. I could see him going shorter term for really big cash.

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07-15-2013, 01:05 PM
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Mentioned this in an old thread a few months back;

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I guess a fair comparison would be to say look at Luongo's first 8 years of his contract (using 8 because that's the max for contracts now). Luongo was 32 when he signed that new deal and Lundqvist will be 32 next year. Both are/were UFA's (unlike Quick and Price extensions who had a few of their RFA years bought out).

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Year 1: $10 million
Year 2: $6,716,000
Years 3-8: $6,714,000

8 years, $57 million - $7.125 million AAV.

Do Rangers go less term more money (6-7 years, 8-8.5 AAV) or try to do something similar to that of Luongo
Open market I could see, 7 years at least $8 mil AAV.

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Emery and Mason bro....Jennings trophy winners
I bet they both have better seasons than Bryz just did.

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worth 8 or 8.5 i think he signs 6 yrs in NY with a 7.3m cap hit

9,9,7,7,6,6

Something like that

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I bet they both have better seasons than Bryz just did.
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worth 8 or 8.5 i think he signs 6 yrs in NY with a 7.3m cap hit

9,9,7,7,6,6

Something like that
That actually seems like a fairly accurate number.

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07-15-2013, 02:19 PM
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He is getting up there in age though so max years will be a little risky but I can definitely see him getting north of 8M.

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Yes, Rask and Rinne are the 2 $7m goalies, for now
Just like he did with his last contract signing, No goalie will make more than Henke. 7m is the minimum ...and he'll be worth every penny of it.

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worth 8 or 8.5 i think he signs 6 yrs in NY with a 7.3m cap hit

9,9,7,7,6,6

Something like that
Something like 12, 12, 9, 8, 6, 7, 6 with aav of 8.57 wouldn't surprise me at all. If there are the top5 players in the league, Henke is one of them and most of them are already north of 8m. Add to it Richards' contract went 12, 12, 9 and you can easily see Henke getting that kind of money.


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Just like he did with his last contract signing, No goalie will make more than Henke. 7m is the minimum ...and he'll be worth every penny of it.
I could see him taking a bit of a discount to play in Pittsburgh or Chicago

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I think if there's any position you can worry less about giving out term at, it's goalie. Hank will decline, but should still be a solid starter for 45-55 games in front of a young goalie when he is in the 37-40 range.

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I think if there's any position you can worry less about giving out term at, it's goalie. Hank will decline, but should still be a solid starter for 45-55 games in front of a young goalie when he is in the 37-40 range.
me and someone else mentioned this on the Rangers board.. I'd go a higher AAV (say 9M?) to get Hank to sign for a shorter contract (5 years). Takes him to age 37 and if he's still good at that time, he's gonna get another deal from us or someone.. just my opinion to give him a higher AAV for less years.

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me and someone else mentioned this on the Rangers board.. I'd go a higher AAV (say 9M?) to get Hank to sign for a shorter contract (5 years). Takes him to age 37 and if he's still good at that time, he's gonna get another deal from us or someone.. just my opinion to give him a higher AAV for less years.
See, that doesn't make sense to me. You gamble on him still being pretty decent at 37-40 years old (enough so that he can play 1a/b with a young goalie, whom you have the next 5+ years to find and develop) that it's not that bad to still be paying him and you sign him longer term at lower AAV. The lower his AAV, the more competitive you can afford to keep the team throughout those prime years of his that you're paying for. Giving him shorter term and higher AAV simply means you've got him for a limited term and you can't afford to be as competitive during that time as if you just gave him longer term and kept his cap hit down. At the very worst, Hank will be a serviceable mentor to a developing young, cost controlled goalie at the end of a long term deal and, even though we're probably not talking about a massive discrepancy in cap hit between a 5 year deal and an 8 year deal, we should know by now (especially our team) that even a simple 1.8M in additional space can be the difference between keeping a Prust, or wanting to add a winger to put you over the top when you only have 4M available instead of 5.2M (or getting one of our RFAs signed when we're tight to the cap). You want to have to get creative and sacrifice depth somewhere else to free up that money, or is it better to keep Hank's AAV as low as possible and make sure the roster is as strong as it can possibly be to get this guy his Cup?

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