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07-15-2013, 01:36 PM
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Toronto needs a potential #1 c who has a great shot at getting there and edmonton needs a a top 15 two way physical dman. I know this wont be popular from both sides but would this trade work if it was worked out that phaneuf would extend with edmonton?

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07-15-2013, 01:38 PM
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You are going to get a lot of heat for that. Toronto is making themselves worse with that trade.

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You are going to get a lot of heat for that. Toronto is making themselves worse with that trade.
Thats ok I expect as much but for toronto it's short term pain for long time gain cause I think RNH will be a notch above kadri when both are in there respective primes.

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Sorry there is not enough there to consider trading RNH. That would leave the Oiler's in the same spot the Leafs are in now, we can get tough other ways without trading our franchise center.

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Sorry there is not enough there to consider trading RNH. That would leave the Oiler's in the same spot the Leafs are in now, we can get tough other ways without trading our franchise center.
In trade value I believe there is but importance to your team I can understand that.

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You are going to get a lot of heat for that. Toronto is making themselves worse with that trade.
I agree. The Oilers are going to lose it at the thought of giving up one of their golden boys (not to mention their only potential 1C) and the Leafs are getting worse after this trade.

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I'd rather keep Kadri, Phaneuf, Fraser and the 2nd because it adds balance to our roster. Besides, know one really knows what we have in Kadri or what you have in RNH. Clearly RNH has a higher upside, but Kadri is ultra-competitive and feisty, which is exactly the kind of guys Nonis is trying to build with.


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I agree. The Oilers are going to lose it at the thought of giving up one of their golden boys (not to mention their only potential 1C) and the Leafs are getting worse after this trade.
I like RNH a lot but I don't think he's enough to compensate for the state of their D after losing both Phaneuf and Fraser.

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i dont like it from a toronto pov but either way it is pretty unrealistic that so many significant pieces to each team would get moved in one deal.

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Absolutely awful! Easy pass from oil

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Kadri is a notch below sam gagner let alone nuge... nuge will be a top 5 center one day... also its one year of phaneuf gonna have to be a big no from edmonton.

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07-15-2013, 01:59 PM
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This is so bad it's not even funny. The Leafs don't ever make that trade.

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It does nothing for Edmonton, makes them an AHL team.

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I didn't watch the Edmonton Oilers dress Jason Strudwick for 3 years to make sure they sucked enough to draft RNH just to trade him away after his second year for this underwhelming package.

I'd instantly stop being an Oilers fan if this trade happened.

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Smid > Phaneuf
RNH >> Kadri
T.O's 2nd >> Fraser

Although Hall-McDavid-Yakupov looks like a decent #1 line.

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Smid > Phaneuf
RNH >> Kadri
T.O's 2nd >> Fraser

Although Hall-McDavid-Yakupov looks like a decent #1 line.
Phaneuf is a better Dman than Smid.

Smid is a better value than Phaneuf.

Lets get that one straight.

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absolutely horrible...

we are not trading what essentially boils down to phaneuf + kadri for rnh ans a small plus

and the oilers fans calling this package "underwhelming" and "awful" ... i dont even know what to say

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I wouldn't make this deal as an Oilers fan, that said it's a rare proposal where a teams fan actually offers up value for valuable pieces so I'll commend the OP for that!

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07-15-2013, 02:25 PM
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absolutely horrible...

we are not trading what essentially boils down to phaneuf + kadri for rnh ans a small plus

and the oilers fans calling this package "underwhelming" and "awful" ... i dont even know what to say
And if Phaneuf walks at the end of the year the deal ends up being Kadri, a 2nd and Fraser and Phaneuf for one year for RNH and Smid No thanks. I'd sooner move one of our wingers not named Hall and have RNH and Kadri as our 1-2 punch down the middle.

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07-15-2013, 02:27 PM
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Kadri is a notch below sam gagner let alone nuge... nuge will be a top 5 center one day... also its one year of phaneuf gonna have to be a big no from edmonton.
#BetterGretzky Would be surprised if RNH makes it into elite 1st liners let alone top 5 Cs.

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07-15-2013, 02:42 PM
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#BetterGretzky Would be surprised if RNH makes it into elite 1st liners let alone top 5 Cs.
Why would you be surprised if a 1st overall center turns into a top 5 C in the league when he has an even better 1st overall driving the bus on his wing?

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1) A trade like this wouldn't happen, there's simply too many pieces of high value / unknown potential

2) As a Leaf fan however, I would do it. Smid is the type of defenceman that would compliment Rielly/Gardiner/Franson really well going forward. We need a defence-first guy in that top 4, so assuming Rielly is as good as we hope he is, then a Rielly-Smid top pairing could actually be a pretty solid one, and a Gardiner-Franson 2nd pairing would be as well. RNH while relatively unproven, has boatloads of potential and could be that franchise centre we've been looking for.

It would really balance out our lineup for the longterm. RNH > Kadri, and Smid would actually be a better fit than Phaneuf, given that Rielly/Franson/Phaneuf/Gardiner are all strong offensively than they are defensively.

But like I said in point #1. It would never happen.

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07-15-2013, 02:47 PM
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Thats ok I expect as much but for toronto it's short term pain for long time gain cause I think RNH will be a notch above kadri when both are in there respective primes.
Lateral move. Rnh is a very frail and skinny guy. I forsee many injuries. Why would either team do this really? Just swaps players for players. Fraser and a 2nd is pretty worthless too. Bad proposal

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Toronto needs a potential #1 c who has a great shot at getting there and edmonton needs a a top 15 two way physical dman. I know this wont be popular from both sides but would this trade work if it was worked out that phaneuf would extend with edmonton?

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smid

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Phaneuf
Kadri
Fraser
2014 2nd

Flame away
have you watched Leafs games.
Kadri benifited from breaking into the slot after it had been cleared by other forwards.
We have a 21 year old forwrd who broke ovechkins under 17 SAcoring record and was top 10 for PPG and +/- per game for Ahl players. He gets a shot cause his game is less perimeter than Kadri

there are 7 Dmen
1. who face dtough comp with better than average EVGA
2. top 40 PKGA
Chara
Boychuck
Oduya
Hjarlmasson
Jackman
Petry
Smid
add int lane breakup and cycle breaks thru blocks and hits
top 40 Blocks and hits
Petry
Smid.
You get 2 dmen in the game.
No phanuef on these lists.

I want dmen who can shutdown 1st line players like Getzlaf Perry.
we have 2 and they were the 3rd best Evga d in the game.

Before the people say but the oilers were bad
the 2nd comp combo of Whitney/N. Schultz/J.schultz was the 2nd worst d results in the game.

I would hope A. ference and Belov (KHL #1 Dman)
will change the 2nd comp results.

Our #1 center and 1 of the 2 Dmen who covered the gambit at a strong level.
Brutal!

Patience!

HAll-XXX-Yakupov
Perron-RNH-Eberle
XXX-Gordon-Hemsky
Smyth-Lander-Jones
Smid-Petry
Ference-Belov
Klefbom/N. Schultz - Larsen/J. Schultz


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