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07-15-2013, 03:32 PM
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To be honest, for JVR, I think you start with Stepan and add from there.

Something around Stepan and Girardi or Staal would get the conversation moving in the right direction... I'm sure the Leafs add a decent piece as well to JVR, but it's at least interesting...
Add from there????? You did not pay attention to the last 12 months. Step is on the cusp of becoming a top 1st line center with excellent defensive skills. No Step for a guy who was traded for Luke Schenn. JVR was very good last season but his track record is longer than Step's and it's not all good.

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To be honest, for JVR, I think you start with Stepan and add from there.

Something around Stepan and Girardi or Staal would get the conversation moving in the right direction... I'm sure the Leafs add a decent piece as well to JVR, but it's at least interesting...
What in the....

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07-15-2013, 03:35 PM
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To be honest, for JVR, I think you start with Stepan and add from there.

Something around Stepan and Girardi or Staal would get the conversation moving in the right direction... I'm sure the Leafs add a decent piece as well to JVR, but it's at least interesting...
hahaha yeah OK. Stepan is better than JVR, hate to break it to you.

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07-15-2013, 03:38 PM
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guys chill out, one person mentioned Stepan...

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Theres only 3 players on the Rangers I would consider trading JVR for, that includes Stepan, Girardi or Mcdonagh.

Seeing as the rangers don't want to move any of those players, and the leafs want to keep JVR, a deal will not happen.

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07-15-2013, 03:55 PM
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Theres only 3 players on the Rangers I would consider trading JVR for, that includes Stepan, Girardi or Mcdonagh.

Seeing as the rangers don't want to move any of those players, and the leafs want to keep JVR, a deal will not happen.
No to Girardi, the other 2 are considerable.

Nothing else would warrant a trade for JVR on our side.

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07-15-2013, 04:04 PM
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JVR

78G 15G 20 A 35 PTS
75G 21G 19A 40 PTS
43G 11G 13A 24 PTS
48G 18G 14A 32 PTS

STEPAN
82G 21G 24A 35 PTS
82G 17G 34A 51 PTS
48G 18G 26A 44 PTS

Rangers would't even move Stepan alone for JVR.. If thats the starting point, mine as well lock this baby up.
But, but he was drafted so high so clearly Stepan+++ is fair

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I'd do Callahan for JVR.

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That silence you hear at the other end of the phone is because Sather hung up.
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Yeah we'll just keep jvr thanks.

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I'd do Callahan for JVR.
Why? JVR is better and younger.

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i know there would have to be multiple players involved to even the value, but i would want the starting point to be ;

JVR ++

for

McDonagh ++


in a perfect world;

JVR+++++++

for

McDonagh +stepan.

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Girardi + or Leafs add a little for Stepan.

If not, the Leafs are happy to keep JVR.

P.S. Toronto isn't rebuilding. I keep seeing proposals implying that they are.

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07-15-2013, 04:25 PM
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To be honest, for JVR, I think you start with Stepan and add from there.

Something around Stepan and Girardi or Staal would get the conversation moving in the right direction... I'm sure the Leafs add a decent piece as well to JVR, but it's at least interesting...
You can't be serious. We'd be looking at Stamkos/Malkin/Crosby/Ovechkin for that price.

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I'd love to know when he's screwed up a trade aside from the Lisin/Korpikoski deal.


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i know there would have to be multiple players involved to even the value, but i would want the starting point to be ;

JVR ++

for

McDonagh ++


in a perfect world;

JVR+++++++

for

McDonagh +stepan.
Obviously 'perfect world' is a relative term. As there isn't a realistic package from Toronto that would be perfect for the Rangers in that scenario.

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To be honest, for JVR, I think you start with Stepan and add from there.

Something around Stepan and Girardi or Staal would get the conversation moving in the right direction... I'm sure the Leafs add a decent piece as well to JVR, but it's at least interesting...
Stepan + Girardi for JVR? Hmm Seems like Rangers have to still add a bit.

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JVR for McDonagh 1-for-1 makes the most sense.

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If Leaf fans want Stepan and McDonagh, then there needs to be SIGNIFICANT addition to JVR.

Near point per game centers at 22 don't grow on trees and neither do legit top pairing defenders at that age.

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staal and girardi will never be traded in the same deal. End of story
Never say never.
It should be determined by whether or not the return makes a possible deal worth it.

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Which wingers would be moveable for NYR?

EDIT: Looking at our defense again, I think we would prefer to acquire just one of Girardi or Staal. Both are great additions and the type of guy we need, but our transition game is crucial to our success and I think the leafs want to be able to have Gardiner and Rielly shouldering big minutes.
Which D am I giving you?
Staal?
Or Girardi, and then we have to factor in a righty D from you or elsewhere?

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JVR for McDonagh 1-for-1 makes the most sense.
Not for the Rangers.

I'd offer Girardi straight up. Not much else. Maybe Staal if the Leafs add to JVR.

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Stepan +
Is this is a joke?

The only think JVR is better at than Stepan is being big. Adding to Stepan for JVR. What a joke.

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For a goal scoring winger, JVR had as many goals as Stepan. He also had half the assists and none of the defensive game.

Not a chance.

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Honestly, that's a great proposal and the value is good for JVR.


But it's totally not what we need lol. It pains me to say no to that because it's a nice package for sure. If JVR is going to the Rangers, at least Girardi is coming back. Id do JVR + Biggs for Girardi + Kreider + 2nd

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