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07-15-2013, 05:17 PM
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Honestly, that's a great proposal and the value is good for JVR.


But it's totally not what we need lol. It pains me to say no to that because it's a nice package for sure. If JVR is going to the Rangers, at least Girardi is coming back. Id do JVR + Biggs for Girardi + Kreider + 2nd
As noted before, Kreider is not being moved, at least until we know what his ceiling is. It would be stupid to move him discounted.

Don't know Biggs.

JVR + for Girardi +, we have to first get a RD, prob from Chicago.

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07-15-2013, 05:19 PM
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JVR is staying in Toronto.

He is young and the #2 overall pick with huge upside. Huge Potential.

Thanks anyway!

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07-15-2013, 05:26 PM
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JVR for McDonagh 1-for-1 makes the most sense.
Not for the Rangers it doesn't

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If Leaf fans want Stepan and McDonagh, then there needs to be SIGNIFICANT addition to JVR.

Near point per game centers at 22 don't grow on trees and neither do legit top pairing defenders at that age.
Well, they're coming from somewhere cuz we've got one too.

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If Leaf fans want Stepan and McDonagh, then there needs to be SIGNIFICANT addition to JVR.

Near point per game centers at 22 don't grow on trees and neither do legit top pairing defenders at that age.
Neither do big bodies Power-forwards with the perfect proportion of size, strength and skill, like JVR.

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Lol this is gonna be a curveball, but Stepan + McDonagh for a signed Kessel

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Lol this is gonna be a curveball, but Stepan + McDonagh for a signed Kessel
Absolutely nor

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Neither do big bodies Power-forwards with the perfect proportion of size, strength and skill, like JVR.
I love JVR, but Stepan has accomplished what he has and then some in less time in the NHL with similar talent levels surrounding the 2. Not only that, but he plays a more important position.

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Lol this is gonna be a curveball, but Stepan + McDonagh for a signed Kessel
Why would the Rangers decimate their team for Kessel. They give up there #1 center, and #1 d-man, for Kessel. Not a chance.......

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Joffrey Lupul - XXXXX - Phil Kessel
James van Riemsdyk - Nazem Kadri - David Clarkson

Will not be touched.


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Lol this is gonna be a curveball, but Stepan + McDonagh for a signed Kessel
I would stop being a fan of the Rangers if they did this.

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Lol this is gonna be a curveball, but Stepan + McDonagh for a signed Kessel
More like a screwball. Not even close. I wouldn't trade either one for Kessel.

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More like a screwball. Not even close. I wouldn't trade either one for Kessel.
I appreciate that you wouldn't want to trade either of those players, but if you get Kessel he instantly becomes the best forward on NYR.

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I appreciate that you wouldn't want to trade either of those players, but if you get Kessel he instantly becomes the best forward on NYR.
He wouldn't be much better than Stepan (assuming last year's Stepan), who we're moving... alongside a #1 D...

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I appreciate that you wouldn't want to trade either of those players, but if you get Kessel he instantly becomes the best forward on NYR.
The best wing given cap hit and production, but I'll keep the center and 1st pair dman over a RW. We already have Nash and Callahan on the right side.

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Did JVR suddenly reach that "potential" I'd been hearing so much about when he was in Philly?

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Did JVR suddenly reach that "potential" I'd been hearing so much about when he was in Philly?
Flashes during the season. Money during the playoffs.

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Flashes during the season. Money during the playoffs.
Sounds about the same as when he was in Philly. I was pulling for him because he's a Jersey boy.

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Sounds about the same as when he was in Philly. I was pulling for him because he's a Jersey boy.
He grew up cheering for the Rangers though

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JvR has one good season and suddenly he's worth a #1 defender.

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He grew up cheering for the Rangers though
Eh, he went to CBA High School his freshman year. I have a soft spot for that school because a buddy of mines brother used to be the head hockey coach there.

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Lol I think some of the Maple Leafs fans are trying to take advantage of us. They know that we could use a legit top 6 LWer and that JVR is a Rangers fan.


That's the only explanation I got for the Stepan/McDonagh (+) offers in here.




Crazy...

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Lol I think some of the Maple Leafs fans are trying to take advantage of us. They know that we could use a legit top 6 LWer and that JVR is a Rangers fan.


That's the only explanation I got for the Stepan/McDonagh (+) offers in here.




Crazy...
no jvr for you then, you gotta give to get, crazy logic.

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As I've mentioned before, there are people on both sides asking for too much.

On our end, we're not accepting anything less than McDonagh or Stepan.

We don't want Girardi+ or Kreider+. No use for either when it comes to the caliber of player JVR, let alone the fact he fills a huge need for us, and has sky high potential.

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no jvr for you then, you gotta give to get, crazy logic.
So JVR is worth a nearly PPG Stepan or a Young #1 D-mm? Yeah "okay". JVR is a goalscorer, Stepan is a great 2-way pass first mentality Guy (playmaker, ya know?) and he had the same amount of goals on a team that sucks at scoring.


You gotta give to get is better suited for Toronto in this case. If you want 1 of Steps/McD that is.

Then you take into consideration as of how bad the Rangers need Stepan. Richards is gonna get bought out. Brassard, Miller/Boyle is awful as a top 6 C depth.


And you're trading with Sather. Call him what you want, god knows he's a lot of things, bad at doing trades isn't one of them.

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