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Spezza vs. Turgeon

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Jason Spezza 63 74.12%
Pierre Turgeon 22 25.88%
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09-30-2003, 10:46 AM
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Spezza vs. Turgeon

Who will score more points this season?

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Who do you think will have the better season? If you were taking one of these players for this season in a fantasy pool, which player would you take? Who will score more? Pierre Turgeon or Jason Spezza?
You twisted the question, it's strictly who you feel will score more points this season. Mentioning fantasy league will assure you posters picking the most promesing one..

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You twisted the question, it's strictly who you feel will score more points this season. Mentioning fantasy league will assure you posters picking the most promesing one..
Done and Done. The glory of the EDIT button.

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This is the hypothetical situation I am going to lay out:

-I have a team, and at the end of the year all the players on said team will be free agents.

-I am trying to win the Stanley Cup this season, no questions asked.

-I have an open center position on my team.

Under these circumstances, I take Pierre Turgeon, no questions asked. Similar offensive potential (for this season), more veteran savvy, more playoff experience, (probably) better on faceoffs due to experience, and better defensive play.

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This is the hypothetical situation I am going to lay out:

-I have a team, and at the end of the year all the players on said team will be free agents.

-I am trying to win the Stanley Cup this season, no questions asked.

-I have an open center position on my team.

Under these circumstances, I take Pierre Turgeon, no questions asked. Similar offensive potential (for this season), more veteran savvy, more playoff experience, (probably) better on faceoffs due to experience, and better defensive play.
THing is, in your situation, there is no reason to play young kids for the sake of development. This question is not based on future play, BUT, if Spezza were 32, he would not get the ice-time he is getting this year. The question is about who will score more points? WHo will do more this season?

Your hypothetical situation kind of doesn't pertain to the question, although if you feel Turgeon is the better player right now, that's cool. Just in your hypothetical situation, Smolinski would probably score more than Spezza because he's a veteran. That's not necessarily the case this season though.

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09-30-2003, 11:09 AM
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THing is, in your situation, there is no reason to play young kids for the sake of development. This question is not based on future play, BUT, if Spezza were 32, he would not get the ice-time he is getting this year. The question is about who will score more points? WHo will do more this season?

Your hypothetical situation kind of doesn't pertain to the question, although if you feel Turgeon is the better player right now, that's cool. Just in your hypothetical situation, Smolinski would probably score more than Spezza because he's a veteran. That's not necessarily the case this season though.
I layed it out in that way because I found the context was most appropriate given where this question/argument arose: in the top 6 forwards thread.

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I layed it out in that way because I found the context was most appropriate given where this question/argument arose: in the top 6 forwards thread.
I know what you're getting at. And I'm sure you have your opinion and for good reasons. My point was that age is a factor even if we are looking simply at one season.

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Is this still going on? Spezza would score more goals especially since he might be slotted with Hossa or Alfie.

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This is the hypothetical situation I am going to lay out:

-I have a team, and at the end of the year all the players on said team will be free agents.

-I am trying to win the Stanley Cup this season, no questions asked.

-I have an open center position on my team.

Under these circumstances, I take Pierre Turgeon, no questions asked. Similar offensive potential (for this season), more veteran savvy, more playoff experience, (probably) better on faceoffs due to experience, and better defensive play.
I like your criteria, and it's how I usually evaluate players in this type of debate, however, my conclusions differ from yours.

I don't see Turgeon ever returning to his old form. It's amazing to think that only two seasons ago, he was a point-a-game-player. However, I think those days are gone, and that he is a bit more fragile now-a-days. I think the point differential is more severe than you indicate. I see Turgeon getting in the 50-55 point range, while I see Spezza getting around 60, maybe 65. I originally thought that I was being a little too optimistic on his behalf, until I saw that pretty much every analyst on TSN has him picked to be this year's breakout player.

Also, I see Spezza developing at a quick pace. The player he is going to be by the end of the year will be a much better player than he will be to start the year, and that I won't be suprised to see him producing at an almost point-a-game pace by the end of the season. Under your criteria, it would be like having a 75-80 point player on your roster come play-off time.

Granted, Turgeon does have the experience factor, however, I don't think it makes up for the offence that Spezza will provide.

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Spezza

He's the most popular answer in many of the polls.

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Considering Turgeon has only mustered back-to-back 40 point seasons, Spezza gets the vote.

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Spezza...never liked Turgeon as a player...too soft

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IF healthy, I'll choose Turgeon. Barring injuries and playing 82 games, I see him putting around 60-65 points this year. Look for some sort of rebound from his part. As of now, I just don't see Spezza putting more than 60 this year. Close one, so I'll choose the proven one.

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