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A Half Dozen, or so, Coyotes and Lightning Proposals

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07-16-2013, 10:02 AM
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A Half Dozen, or so, Coyotes and Lightning Proposals

1. Klesla for Malone
2. Rundblad for Connolly
3. Rundblad for Namestnikov
4. Klesla and Rundblad for Malone and Connolly
5. Klesla and Rundblad for Malone and Namestnikov
6. Phoenix adds a draft pick to even out numbers four or five

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  • Rundblad probably won't accept a two-way deal.
  • Klesla plays either the right or left side with equal effectiveness.
  • Proposal number six will not include a first round pick
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Like I said before, i'd swap Klesla and Malone straight up. I like Rundblad but taking on only a little salary at a time and clearing a forward spot just fits Tampa perfectly.

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I don't like trading Namestnikov, as he is our only near NHL ready center (Johnson is already an NHLer IMO) and brings an impressive skill set (two-way, physical, great offensive abilitys)

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Like I said before, i'd swap Klesla and Malone straight up. I like Rundblad but taking on only a little salary at a time and clearing a forward spot just fits Tampa perfectly.
So that's YES to #1 and NO to numbers two through six?

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Tampa bay: Rostislav Klesla, Brandon McMillan and a 2nd round pick 2014

Phoenix: Brett Connolly

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1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes
5. No
6. Sure but only involving Connolly.

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1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes
5. No
6. Sure but only involving Connolly.
This.
It is soo scary (for a Lightning fan), that we are willing to trade a 21 year old with huge upside that easily...... And even the willingness to trade the prospect with the higher upside (offensivly) is a completly new Feeling for me.

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It is soo scary (for a Lightning fan), that we are willing to trade a 21 year old with huge upside that easily...... And even the willingness to trade the prospect with the higher upside (offensivly) is a completly new Feeling for me.
Fair enough. Rundblad is not without upside himself, of course.

Okay, so it sounds like Namestnikov is off the board? That actually probably suits Phoenix a little better anyhow. He'd make a great Vermette replacement in a couple of years, but he wouldn't have a spot any time before then.

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Tampa bay: Rostislav Klesla, Brandon McMillan and a 2nd round pick 2014

Phoenix: Brett Connolly
I'd consider it if Malone were thrown in.

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Tampa bay: Rostislav Klesla, Brandon McMillan and a 2nd round pick 2014

Phoenix: Brett Connolly
If this was somehow good enough to land Connolly I don't see why the Bolts wouldn't throw in Malone either.

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1. Klesla for Malone
2. Rundblad for Connolly
3. Rundblad for Namestnikov
4. Klesla and Rundblad for Malone and Connolly
5. Klesla and Rundblad for Malone and Namestnikov
6. Phoenix adds a draft pick to even out numbers four or five

Notes:
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  • Klesla plays either the right or left side with equal effectiveness.
  • Proposal number six will not include a first round pick
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Updated the OP. Hopefully more palatable to Bolts fans, now.

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Tampa bay: Rostislav Klesla, Brandon McMillan and a 2nd round pick 2014

Phoenix: Brett Connolly
That is pretty awful.
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Updated the OP. Hopefully more palatable to Bolts fans, now.
Call Maloney and I'll call Yzerman.

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That is pretty awful.


Call Maloney and I'll call Yzerman.
Let's get it done!

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number 1 2 and 4 works for me. Were both trading strengths to address our weaknesses. Good trade for both sides IMO. Lets get ER DONE!

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This is why I changed my username from Rundblad.

I'm detached now and understand he's good trade bait.

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It sounds as if a mutual consensus is nearly reached among fans, for the most part?

Klesla and Rundblad for Malone and Connolly seems like a winner?

I'm sure there are more skeptics on each team board that just haven't shown up yet.

Haha.

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Klesla and Rundblad for Malone and Connolly seems like a winner?
Trading from strengths to improve weaknesses: a vet for a vet and a swap of RH high offensive upside prospects. Winner winner chicken dinner for me.

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These trades make so much sense, it's not even funny. If PHX and TBL haven't traded by the season's start, I will be very shocked.

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These trades make so much sense, it's not even funny. If PHX and TBL haven't traded by the season's start, I will be very shocked.
Still unclear whether Malone would waive the NTC. One might suspect he would though. He's only got a year left and would be virtually guaranteed a top six role in Phoenix. Likely first unit PP minutes with Mike Ribeiro, too. Might not be a bad way to pad the old stats a little before hitting the market. Plus, his buddy Mike Smith is on board. And he's probably familiar with the market and the organization given that his dad worked for the Coyotes for some time. Of course there is always the possibility he doesn't want to come west. Who knows?

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It sounds as if a mutual consensus is nearly reached among fans, for the most part?

Klesla and Rundblad for Malone and Connolly seems like a winner?

I'm sure there are more skeptics on each team board that just haven't shown up yet.

Haha.
I think Connolly > Rundblad so I'm really on the fence with this one. I'll do Malone for Klesla any day though.

I still feel like we have the offensive depth to pry Yandle away, but that got shot down pretty good by Phoenix when I proposed it. I understand that quality > quantity for you, but feel free to make an offer because we're drooling with good, NHL ready offensive talent. Namestnikov + Connolly + Panik +?

I'd prefer Stone over Rundblad, simply because he fits an organizational need better and I really don't buy the importance of equal LH/RH as much as others.


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I'm on board for Klesla and Rundblad for Malone and Connolly. It's surprising how both teams' fans seems to be ok with it...not because it's a lopsided deal in any way, but how well the trade seems to address both teams' needs.

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I'm more comfortable with Klesla for Malone. I still think Rundblad can develop in the NHL. But if he's traded for Connolly, I'd certainly understand it.

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I think Connolly > Rundblad so I'm really on the fence with this one. I'll do Malone for Klesla any day though.

I still feel like we have the offensive depth to pry Yandle away, but that got shot down pretty good by Phoenix when I proposed it. I understand that quality > quantity for you, but feel free to make an offer because we're drooling with good, NHL ready offensive talent. Namestnikov + Connolly + Panik +?

I'd prefer Stone over Rundblad, simply because he fits an organizational need better and I really don't buy the importance of equal LH/RH as much as others.
At this point I'd also value Connolly > Rundblad. Some may argue that Klesla > Malone equalizes the equation, but we're more than willing to add a draft pick to seal the deal.

Only reason we had to previously (and grudgingly) consider trading Yandle was because of our NHL-mandated 50M budget - the idea was to pick up a couple of promising youngsters still on ELC to improve our talent up front. Rundblad meanwhile would have taken over Yandle's role as our primary offensive catalyst from the backend.

But with ownership seemingly settled, our payroll budget improving modestly, and Rundblad's future as a Yote uncertain, we really don't have an incentive to trade our best offensive player and likely our future captain unless it's for a huge overpayment. More than content to see if Yandle can break 60 points with Ribiero in tow this season, maybe even more if we can get another potential Top 6 scoring forward like Connolly. ;-)

As for Stone, at the beginning of the playoffs I had a few convos with Bolts HFers trying to sell them on Stone, e.g. Stone for Panik or Stone+ for Connolly. Very receptive dealmaking on both sides. But now, with Maloney resigning Stone to a great extension and Morris a UFA next offseason, it seems pretty clear that Stone's longterm future is with the Yotes, likely as Yandle's future partner.


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I think Connolly > Rundblad so I'm really on the fence with this one. I'll do Malone for Klesla any day though.

I still feel like we have the offensive depth to pry Yandle away, but that got shot down pretty good by Phoenix when I proposed it. I understand that quality > quantity for you, but feel free to make an offer because we're drooling with good, NHL ready offensive talent. Namestnikov + Connolly + Panik +?

I'd prefer Stone over Rundblad, simply because he fits an organizational need better and I really don't buy the importance of equal LH/RH as much as others.
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I'm more comfortable with Klesla for Malone. I still think Rundblad can develop in the NHL. But if he's traded for Connolly, I'd certainly understand it.
Haha. The lone dissentors seem to agree...in opposite fashions. Gotta love it. Must be close.

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Love these deals for both sides. Solid, well thought out proposals. Well done.

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