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07-17-2013, 11:08 AM
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Offer sheet....

If there is one offer sheet I would endorse, more so than ROR, is Stepan out of NYR. Do it before they move salary and are unable to match it. If offer sheets 'really' effect the relationship between teams, then I doubt you would have seen the Tanguay trade. If anything, COL asked Calgary to offer sheet him so they can match an get him signed.

Anyway, I think Stepan would be a great addition to our young guns 2.0. He is the exact type of center (outside of berglund) that the flames need to be targeting.

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http://m.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers...0lZYmwgGhM8j7J

Brooks says NYR only have 4 million in cap to sign Stepan an zuccerelo.

I really think they should offer a 4.5 for 3 or 4 years

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07-17-2013, 11:16 AM
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Brooks says NYR only have 4 million in cap to sign Stepan an zuccerelo.

I really think they should offer a 4.5 for 3 or 4 years
And concede a potential 1st overall pick? No thanks. That has Kessel trade written all over it.

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Yeah. I'm not a fan of compensation picks. The only thing Stepan would do for us would get us a lower drafted pick.

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And concede a potential 1st overall pick? No thanks. That has Kessel trade written all over it.
Yea, so far TOR won that trade, no?

I don't think we are finishing bottom 5. That's my opinion at least. I don't see our team as that bad. But it's a giant question mark.

Besides....our 1st pick might not end up as good as Stepan. Would you rather have Monohan or ROR?

It's a crap shoot really. I would take Stepan over Monohan or ROR. But that's just my opinion.

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Yea, so far TOR won that trade, no?

I don't think we are finishing bottom 5. That's my opinion at least. I don't see our team as that bad. But it's a giant question mark.

Besides....our 1st pick might not end up as good as Stepan. Would you rather have Monohan or ROR?

It's a crap shoot really. I would take Stepan over Monohan or ROR. But that's just my opinion.
No they haven't. Not in the end. Eriksson is almost the same level as Kessel. Then they also got Hamilton, Morrow and 3 other prospects. The ony people twisting it to make it sound liek the Leafs won are desperate Leafs fans.

It's too early to say if Stepan is better than Monahan will be. But O'Reilly being brought up is kind of silly since he isn't a Flame. You don't give up a potential franchise player just in case you might get a lesser pick, especially when it's a given that the Flames will be very very bad.

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No they haven't. Not in the end. Eriksson is almost the same level as Kessel. Then they also got Hamilton, Morrow and 3 other prospects. The ony people twisting it to make it sound liek the Leafs won are desperate Leafs fans.

It's too early to say if Stepan is better than Monahan will be. But O'Reilly being brought up is kind of silly since he isn't a Flame. You don't give up a potential franchise player just in case you might get a lesser pick, especially when it's a given that the Flames will be very very bad.
I don't think it's a given that the flames will be very very bad.

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I don't think it's a given that the flames will be very very bad.
I know you love the team dude, but there is nothing wrong with accepting we will blow. I would love to be wrong and see them have an okay year, but that is very unlikely

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The biggest problem for the flames is the re-alignment. It was no kind to us at all. I honestly do not think this team is any worse on paper. But we will likely have an even better pick this year and I think our new division will play a big part in that.

It'll be tough for the kids to compete with those teams.

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Yea, so far TOR won that trade, no?

I don't think we are finishing bottom 5. That's my opinion at least. I don't see our team as that bad. But it's a giant question mark.

Besides....our 1st pick might not end up as good as Stepan. Would you rather have Monohan or ROR?

It's a crap shoot really. I would take Stepan over Monohan or ROR. But that's just my opinion.
Kessel is good, but Seguin + Hamilton is WAY WAY WAY better, i dont care what anyone says.

I wouldnt take Stepan over Monohan, You get Stepan at an older age, on an expensive contract, and already at his peak.

Chances are a top 3 pick center is going to turn into a franchise type center. Would you trade Toews for Stepan?


Its a terrible idea to offersheet anyone with where the Flames are now.

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Yea, so far TOR won that trade, no?

I don't think we are finishing bottom 5. That's my opinion at least. I don't see our team as that bad. But it's a giant question mark.

Besides....our 1st pick might not end up as good as Stepan. Would you rather have Monohan or ROR?

It's a crap shoot really. I would take Stepan over Monohan or ROR. But that's just my opinion.
Boston won the cup... so boston won.

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Boston won the cup... so boston won.
I'm blowing the whistle on this logical fallacy. Coincidence does not imply causation.

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if boston had kessel they might have 2. but id stilll take seguin + hamilton

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if boston had kessel they might have 2. but id stilll take seguin + hamilton
Or they could have had zero.

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Offer sheet Nyquist for less than 3 mill and we won't have to give up a first.

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I don't want this to turn into Seguin/Kessel argument, because I'm sure Burke didn't expect to be giving up THAT high of a pick.

Nonetheless, this offer sheet idea is probably what Feaster means by having the cap space to trade/sign against cap teams.

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Offer sheet Nyquist for less than 3 mill and we won't have to give up a first.
Nyquist for the 31st overall pick (likely, because im a pessimist) + pissing off Detroit.

Not sure if worth it.

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Possible lottery teams should not be offer sheeting anyone. Period.

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Nyquist for the 31st overall pick (likely, because im a pessimist) + pissing off Detroit.

Not sure if worth it.
With Nyquist, we could flip Stempniak to recover the 2nd.

I'm ok with pissing off Detroit. Jimmy D said players are like cows and Holland can't have his arm twisted. They've won enough

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Even trading away 2nd round picks is ******** for a rebuilding team.

Would you guys rather have Cammalleri or Fucale?

Right now i would take Fucale 10 times out of 10.

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Even trading away 2nd round picks is ******** for a rebuilding team.

Would you guys rather have Cammalleri or Fucale?

Right now i would take Fucale 10 times out of 10.
Even if it was for building pieces?

And no thanks to Fucale.

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Even trading away 2nd round picks is ******** for a rebuilding team.

Would you guys rather have Cammalleri or Fucale?

Right now i would take Fucale 10 times out of 10.
I dunno. I'd rather have 23 yr old Stepan and his 3 seasons at 40+ points than an unknown in Poirier/Klimchuk.


These guys look great an have potential to be great NHL players. Or they can be flops, time will tell I guess.

I just think of all RFA's, Stepan is a perfect target.

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I love Stepan, he's a fantastic player. We are better off to make them an offer, he won't be leaving the Rangers though. They would match any offer him and move out other pieces before losing him. He's their best player.

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I love Stepan, he's a fantastic player. We are better off to make them an offer, he won't be leaving the Rangers though. They would match any offer him and move out other pieces before losing him. He's their best player.
Exactly, yet people won't give up a 1st for him lol.

I think they have cap problems, and we can really hand cuff them. I believe the deadline for qualifying offers is this Saturday? Maybe I'm wrong. I say Feaster at least try. Maybe slather is playing hardball, and will be forced to pay out. Or they take the compensation.

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I dunno. I'd rather have 23 yr old Stepan and his 3 seasons at 40+ points than an unknown in Poirier/Klimchuk.


These guys look great an have potential to be great NHL players. Or they can be flops, time will tell I guess.

I just think of all RFA's, Stepan is a perfect target.
Since when are we a top 10 team in the NHL.

Offersheeting Stepan would cost something like Drouin, Mackinnon, Lindholm or Monahan. Not worth it even in the slightest.

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