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10-14-2013, 01:46 AM
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10-14-2013, 04:04 AM
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No one else remembers the Sharks ridiculous start last year too? 5-0 with 23 GF to start the year, and ending with them being in a total dogfight just to make it. They have a pretty good team, but more importantly ridiculous chemistry, and can look very good early in the year when teams are still getting into gear. They should make the playoffs and whatnot, but I'm not that scared of them.

Wasn't it the start of last year where everyone on this board went nuts about how we'd never stop them, up until that first game where we really shut them down?

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10-14-2013, 04:29 AM
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Yeah Marlo was the next Gretzky last season in first few games. They still should be a good team but right now they are just ridiculous.

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10-14-2013, 07:58 AM
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No one else remembers the Sharks ridiculous start last year too? 5-0 with 23 GF to start the year, and ending with them being in a total dogfight just to make it. They have a pretty good team, but more importantly ridiculous chemistry, and can look very good early in the year when teams are still getting into gear. They should make the playoffs and whatnot, but I'm not that scared of them.

Wasn't it the start of last year where everyone on this board went nuts about how we'd never stop them, up until that first game where we really shut them down?
Yup, exactly. Started off with a ridiculous run, only to follow with an even more significant drought. They could be strong this year, no doubt, but I wouldn't make any bigger statements based on those first few games.

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10-14-2013, 08:49 PM
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Holy hell, those Edmonton fans are lucky that their latest 'Who will be better: Oilers or Ducks?' thread got locked. That would have been bumped for sure if it hadn't.

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10-14-2013, 09:00 PM
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Holy hell, those Edmonton fans are lucky that their latest 'Who will be better: Oilers or Ducks?' thread got locked. That would have been bumped for sure if it hadn't.
Yeah, the results were just too lopsided. It's tough to give the Oilers the benefit of the doubt anymore.

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10-14-2013, 09:09 PM
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The Oilers won't be good until they draft an elite, big franchise center that can lead them (like a Toews, Getzlaf, Taveres type player). RNH is too soft (he's a #2 on a contender). They also lack a true top pairing defenseman. Maybe Nurse can be that guy or Klefbom, but Schultz just isn't good enough all around.

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10-14-2013, 09:11 PM
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I don't think the Oilers will be good until they wake up and stop trying to draft to cure their problems. They need to draw players in. Good players. Look what happened when they got Pronger. Okay, sure, that's an unusual case, but you can't rely on drafting to do everything.

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10-14-2013, 09:18 PM
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A draft-centric strategy should make them better than they are now, but if you whiff on picks, then you just aren't going to improve, no matter how many first overalls you get.

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10-14-2013, 09:20 PM
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A draft-centric strategy should make them better than they are now, but if you whiff on picks, then you just aren't going to improve, no matter how many first overalls you get.
Should have picked Galchenyuk over Yakupov...they need Gally so bad

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10-14-2013, 09:26 PM
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I think their top six is fine. It's everything else past that that looks sketchy: bottom six, the D, and the goaltending(especially this).

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10-15-2013, 06:04 AM
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Should have picked Galchenyuk over Yakupov...they need Gally so bad
Bold prediction (3 years ahead):
- Yakupov will be in the KHL
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10-15-2013, 08:22 AM
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So much for the "Best player in the world outside the NHL" tag that chump of Schultz had back then: he can't play defense to save his life.


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10-15-2013, 10:45 AM
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I know +/- is not the greatest stat to judge a guys defense, but it is comical to think King Justin is on pace for -82.

After watching him several times last season and this season, he really has no interest in actually playing defense. He is literally a 4th FW. I would hate to be his D partner.

He is gifted offensively but might as well be a PP specialist because he is a mess on defense.

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10-15-2013, 10:59 AM
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I know +/- is not the greatest stat to judge a guys defense, but it is comical to think King Justin is on pace for -82.

After watching him several times last season and this season, he really has no interest in actually playing defense. He is literally a 4th FW. I would hate to be his D partner.

He is gifted offensively but might as well be a PP specialist because he is a mess on defense.
i attribute that to edmontons godawful system/management/coaching

i think he'd be a great for us here. BB would get schultz to work on his d-game all of last season and probably this season to turn him into more of a 2-way d.

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10-15-2013, 11:39 AM
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BB would get schultz to work on his d-game all of last season and probably this season to turn him into more of a 2-way d.
You really have no basis to believe that. Eakins and his former coaches aren't just dumber than any HF poster and entirely fine with him being worthless defensively. Of course they're doing what they can to work on his d-game and be good defensively. But it's just not that easy. Just like you cannot take any young stay-at-home defender, have him work on his offensive game, and turn him into Weber. It's just not that easy, and it would be downright miracle-work from Boudreau.

It may still come together for Schultz more than now, but it won't be just from a coach having that kind of idea. That's really basic stuff that any coach would and most certainly has asked from him. But there just isn't much of an indication that he has the defensive hockey-IQ to match his offensive one, and that really caps what you can expect any coach to get out of him in that area. As I said, it could still happen, but it's not nearly as simple as you make it sound.

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10-15-2013, 01:03 PM
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Well, judging by different threads around these boards, Lindholm is sure making a name for himself fast.

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10-15-2013, 01:31 PM
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You really have no basis to believe that. Eakins and his former coaches aren't just dumber than any HF poster and entirely fine with him being worthless defensively. Of course they're doing what they can to work on his d-game and be good defensively. But it's just not that easy. Just like you cannot take any young stay-at-home defender, have him work on his offensive game, and turn him into Weber. It's just not that easy, and it would be downright miracle-work from Boudreau.

It may still come together for Schultz more than now, but it won't be just from a coach having that kind of idea. That's really basic stuff that any coach would and most certainly has asked from him. But there just isn't much of an indication that he has the defensive hockey-IQ to match his offensive one, and that really caps what you can expect any coach to get out of him in that area. As I said, it could still happen, but it's not nearly as simple as you make it sound.
im not saying that eakins and co. haven't tried. what i was getting at was because (IMO) management in the oilers franchise is so poorly done right now, what they've been doing is let their high profile picks run rampid for the past couple seasons. I dont feel like the oilers play with a good system nor do they work well together. I personally blame that on coaching/management because theres no respect and they don't buy into the system.
All that we've seen of schultz is him being pretty good offensively while not putting in the effort to be better defensively. I haven't seen their management try and stress to schultz that he's a defensive liability out there. I don't see a restraint in his game to try and improve his defensive side. The fact that I don't see that shows to me at least that the management hasn't asked him to do so ,or if they have, and he isn't, then he isn't getting punished for not following the coach's gameplan.

How we've seen fowler grow here is him being asked strictly to only focus on his defensive game for the past few seasons and once that's improved than we allow him to go on a longer leash.
IMO, fowler has gotten tons better defensively since his rookie season and I attribute that to A.) fowler's personal growth as a player/person and B.) our management/coaching staff

Very few of the oilers forwards or d-men show pride in their defensive awareness/responsibilities and when the entire team doesn't seem to be very accountable defensively then its most likely a system thing.

Maybe that was all because of the past coaching staff because from what history has shown, eakins isn't a huge offensive free reign coach. He's more of a possesion style quick transition type coach.
That results in a heavy forecheck with a puck hounding style.

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10-15-2013, 02:11 PM
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Well, judging by different threads around these boards, Lindholm is sure making a name for himself fast.
Yeah. Alongside with Etem will he turn up in every other trade proposal for garbage. With the sidenote that we need to add.

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Yeah. Alongside with Etem will he turn up in every other trade proposal for garbage. With the sidenote that we need to add.
Well, while I have my reservations about Yakupov, I wouldn't quite call him garbage. The rest is pretty much up to Lindholm. It will probably get worse before it gets better, but if he follows Brodin's path, he's going to play himself basically off the trade board only a little less quickly than he played himself onto it.

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I didn't mean to imply Yakupov is garbage. He is obviously a great player. I was speaking more in a general matter. Like Hemsky for Lindholm +2nd.

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Lapierre just ended Dan Boyle's season.

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Sad seeing what happened to Kaleta, played in my hometown in the OHL and was a fan favorite, most even wanted him to be captain of the team.

Whether it was the Buffalo organization that wanted him to play this way or something else, he looked like he was going to be a really good 3rd line grinder that could score when he left here.

It makes me wonder how much is on Buffalo, Downie played pretty much the same style as Kaleta when he was here, but has gone in a completely different direction.

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Max Lapierre always has been and always will be a ****ing little *****. Hope that piece of **** gets what's coming to him. I'm so glad he didn't last more than a month in Anaheim. Players like him are the reason there should be no instigator penalty.

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That looked scary. Hopefully Boyle makes a full and quick recovery.

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