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07-19-2013, 03:07 PM
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I don't see how that's over analyzing. Those points are all legitimate.

People saw nash, kobe, howard, gasol and thought championship. They didn't think how they would all fit together, and how D'antoni would utilize them. People really just over estimate this team purely because of how it looks on paper, and how they used to play 5+ years ago.

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The NBA is not afraid to screw the Lakers over either, vis-à-vis, Chris Paul.

Then again, the Hornets were owned by the league at the time....

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I could see the NBA screwing over the Raptors and choose the year that they could possibly get Wiggins to stop fixing the draft. I really can.

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OregonLive.com: Q&A with Toronto Raptors guard Terrence Ross

http://www.oregonlive.com/nba/index....ve_and_to.html



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How's summer league going for you?

"It's been good, been productive. Things are getting better, I'm competing, having fun."

How different is it for you being in summer league this year compared to last year?

"You know what to expect; you know how everything goes so you kind of don't have to worry about much. All you really got to do is just focus on basketball."

Coach Casey said he's liked what he's seen out of you defensively. Is that your focus?

"Of course. That's always my main focus because if offense isn't falling for me, you always got defense to rely on so as long as you make that commitment on defense and try and turn some heads and let them know you want to defend, I think that's the biggest thing."

Coach also pointed out your decision making, bringing the ball up the court, and playing with the ball in your hands. Do you like having the ball in your hands?

"Everybody does. I think it's important for me to continue to make good decisions and prove to the coaches that I can bring the ball up and I can set someone up. It's just something I'm still working on. It's not going to be a dramatic change at the end of this summer league but as long as I'm showing improvement I get a little more of that coach's choice."

Coach said he's liked what he's seen from you off the ball this summer.

"I'm trying to just get better as an all-around player. I'm trying to do every little thing coach is mentioning, just take that in and try to get better at it."

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I could see the NBA screwing over the Raptors and choose the year that they could possibly get Wiggins to stop fixing the draft. I really can.
In a business sense, it's smart to rig drafts. So I doubt they will.

It sucks for the "fairness" of the sport though.

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07-20-2013, 12:11 PM
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In a business sense, it's smart to rig drafts. So I doubt they will.

It sucks for the "fairness" of the sport though.
but in a business sense it makes no sense to rig the draft for the raptors when teams like the celtics and lakers are suffering...

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but in a business sense it makes no sense to rig the draft for the raptors when teams like the celtics and lakers are suffering...
Very true.

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but in a business sense it makes no sense to rig the draft for the raptors when teams like the celtics and lakers are suffering...
The Lakers will have a ton of cap space next offseason and the NBA survived with the Celtics being **** for nearly an entire decade and didn't artificially help them in any way during that time, so the NBA likely won't rig anything for either team. They know that there is huge untapped potential in a market like Toronto that was flashed during vincanity and Wiggins can not only unleash that potential once more, but also keep it around for a very long time with a hometown guy in Wiggins. Plus, the NBA rigged 2003 for Cleveland (hometown LeBron), which isn't a big market at all, and rigged it for Chicago (hometown Rose) in 2008 when they were way down in odds. They also rigged it for Cleveland again in 2011 after they lost LeBron.

tl;dr: The league has rigged the draft for a non-traditional market twice and has also done it twice just because of the hometown factor, so they don't specialize in rigging the draft for big markets at all.

If the draft is truly rigged, Wiggins will go to the Raps.

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Houston has a fairly large Asian market, wouldn't be surprised if the Yao Ming draft was rigged too.

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What? Quincy Acy did that? lol amazing.

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Dang. Acy fakes a shot, defender bites, throws down a slam. In his next basket, he takes a step inside the 3 point line and makes the basket. Then makes a huge block in the other end.

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Acy and Buycks have been very impressive today.

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Dang. Acy fakes a shot, defender bites, throws down a slam. In his next basket, he takes a step inside the 3 point line and makes the basket. Then makes a huge block in the other end.
and not long ago he hit a corner 3, then pump-faked the 3 and drove through the lane and up/over a defender for the & 1 layup.

I've only seen a few minutes of the game, but he's looked damn impressive. For as impressive as you can look in a summer league game.

he's already showing at least that he can be more than a Reggie Evans type lunchpail/rebounder/energy guy

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Question for all of you

Would you rather make the playoffs only to get eliminated in the first round by Chicago/Miami/ NYK/ BK/ Indiana but be happy that you made the playoffs

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Tank the season and have a chance at the loaded 2014 draft class. Mind you this kind of draft class pretty much happens once every decade

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2008 can be an exception cause depth wise it's pretty crazy

but you get the point.

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Houston has a fairly large Asian market, wouldn't be surprised if the Yao Ming draft was rigged too.
He would have went to Golden State or the Knicks if that one was rigged. Houston Asian market is not that big compared to those two.

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He would have went to Golden State or the Knicks if that one was rigged. Houston Asian market is not that big compared to those two.
Clearly their interest is to branch out to them, no? I mean with them signing Lin and all after Yao's retirement.

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and not long ago he hit a corner 3, then pump-faked the 3 and drove through the lane and up/over a defender for the & 1 layup.

I've only seen a few minutes of the game, but he's looked damn impressive. For as impressive as you can look in a summer league game.

he's already showing at least that he can be more than a Reggie Evans type lunchpail/rebounder/energy guy
Agreed. But hopefully he doesn't get too shot jumpy in NBA. Very nice to see he's developed it a little bit though.

I was really impressed with Acy and Buycks today. Ross was disappointing though and he seriously needs to step his game up. He should be destroying summer league this year and that hasn't been the case.

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Question for all of you

Would you rather make the playoffs only to get eliminated in the first round by Chicago/Miami/ NYK/ BK/ Indiana but be happy that you made the playoffs

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Tank the season and have a chance at the loaded 2014 draft class. Mind you this kind of draft class pretty much happens once every decade

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2008 can be an exception cause depth wise it's pretty crazy

but you get the point.
The latter by a mile. However, if you'd believe some of the print media in the city, the Raptors are already too young and anything but the 1st overall is a crapshoot

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I think we might have to just accept that Ross doesn't have a ton of high upside. We should just try and develop him as a 3&D guy, who can catch lobs and finish on the break with dunks.

The Tracy McGrady comparisons last year blew my mind on this forum. If he can be a Danny Green type, we should be happy.

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I think we might have to just accept that Ross doesn't have a ton of high upside. We should just try and develop him as a 3&D guy, who can catch lobs and finish on the break with dunks.

The Tracy McGrady comparisons last year blew my mind on this forum. If he can be a Danny Green type, we should be happy.


the guy is in his second season.

give the kid a break

I don't why some fans want a LeBron type impact so quickly. he is still learning.

Should we also be doubting Jonas because he didn't turn into an all star his first season?

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Question for all of you

Would you rather make the playoffs only to get eliminated in the first round by Chicago/Miami/ NYK/ BK/ Indiana but be happy that you made the playoffs

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Tank the season and have a chance at the loaded 2014 draft class. Mind you this kind of draft class pretty much happens once every decade

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but you get the point.
we already had this discussion for like 10 pages in the other thread before it got maxed out. some people don't understand how the NBA works. don't bother.

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The Lakers will have a ton of cap space
cap space is great. Who do you think they're actually going to get with it? Lebron isn't leaving Miami if they 3peat. And I doubt he'd leave them anyway. Melo won't ever win anything the way he plays, and it's debatable he would even leave the knicks.

The best thing they will do is resign kobe, and do people even want to play with him? The best center in the league already said no.

They can build a new team, but best case scenario that team isn't going to be much better than what they have now. without a franchise player to take them through the next 10-15 years, which is not available in the 2014 free agent class, the Lakers are doing nothing.

But whatever, all I'm saying is my money is on wiggins to lakers if it was rigged. there's no way to prove or disprove rigged lotteries.


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the guy is in his second season.

give the kid a break

I don't why some fans want a LeBron type impact so quickly. he is still learning.

Should we also be doubting Jonas because he didn't turn into an all star his first season?
Whoa too much rationality for this board! Calm it down you don't want to make their ears bleed!!

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we already had this discussion for like 10 pages in the other thread before it got maxed out. some people don't understand how the NBA works. don't bother.



cap space is great. Who do you think they're actually going to get with it? Lebron isn't leaving Miami if they 3peat. And I doubt he'd leave them anyway. Melo won't ever win anything the way he plays, and it's debatable he would even leave the knicks.

The best thing they will do is resign kobe, and do people even want to play with him? The best center in the league already said no.

They can build a new team, but best case scenario that team isn't going to be much better than what they have now. without a franchise player to take them through the next 10-15 years, which is not available in the 2014 free agent class, the Lakers are doing nothing.

But whatever, all I'm saying is my money is on wiggins to lakers if it was rigged. there's no way to prove or disprove rigged lotteries.
You say people dunno what they're talking about (the whole tank but still be a fan ****) and then you make a comment about Lebron remaining a Heat if they 3 peat? Meanwhile Wade is slowly breaking down, Bosh is overpaid and Cleveland has a nice huge hole at the #3 spot (even #4) waiting for Lebron to go back, who has said he enjoys the recruiting process and will opt out of his contract this year.

ya, YOU know what you're talking about

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You say people dunno what they're talking about (the whole tank but still be a fan ****) and then you make a comment about Lebron remaining a Heat if they 3 peat? Meanwhile Wade is slowly breaking down, Bosh is overpaid and Cleveland has a nice huge hole at the #3 spot (even #4) waiting for Lebron to go back, who has said he enjoys the recruiting process and will opt out of his contract this year.

ya, YOU know what you're talking about
lol you need to stop reading those espn articles. It's poisoning your brain.

Someone is going to leave the city he JUST won 3 championships in a row in....

Thank about what you're saying for a second...



And before you say look at Michael. Lebron is no Michael.

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