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07-19-2013, 05:00 PM
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We have Phillipe Paradis (via Tlusty trade)along the way for a bit too but traded him..

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07-19-2013, 05:12 PM
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I think if you look around the league you'll find that a lot of teams are made up of a lot of first round picks. Four random teams off the top of my head:

Philadelphia

Lecavalier
Giroux
Hartnell
Voracek
Schenn
Couturier
Laughton
Gagne
Coburn
Morin
Meszaros
Schenn

St. Louis

Oshie
Steen
Berglund
Tarasenko
Schwartz
Stewart
Paajarvi
Bouwmeester
Pietrangelo
Jackman
Shattenkirk
Woywitka

Anaheim

Perry
Getzlaf
Koivu
Cogliano
Holland
Selanne
Steckel
Etem
Palmieri
Dvorak
Fowler
Allen
Sbisa
Theodore
Rakell

Calgary

Bartschi
Backlund
Monahan
Poirier
Klimchuk
Jankowski
Nemisz
Irving
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The Leafs missed the playoffs for 9 straight years and doing absolutely nothing and simply drafting in the position the NHL would have awarded the Leafs picks at, would have given them 9 X 1st rounders in the system < pick 15 (playoff teams).
Considering that when Burke took over there was only 5 in the entire system (on the NHL club plus recently drafted prospects), 2 of whom would never play another NHL game after Burke's first partial season, you should be pretty damned impressed.

Basically from 3 to 13, many of whom are doing very well, in a very short time.

Very impressive work.

Best part is, all but 2 are 25 and under.

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Too bad we bought out Komisarek or the list would be even longer.

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07-19-2013, 07:04 PM
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Considering that when Burke took over there was only 5 in the entire system (on the NHL club plus recently drafted prospects), 2 of whom would never play another NHL game after Burke's first partial season, you should be pretty damned impressed.

Basically from 3 to 13, many of whom are doing very well, in a very short time.

Very impressive work.

Best part is, all but 2 are 25 and under.
Simply counting first round picks isn't that productive though. The talent level has increased but it should have anyway. For example, during 2005-06, the Leafs were absolutely loaded with first rounders:

Sundin
Lindros
Allison
Steen
O'Neill
Antropov
Kilger
Berg
Colaiacovo
Richardson
Belak

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07-19-2013, 07:15 PM
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wow steckel in the first round..who would have thunk it..
I remember thinking the same thing when we traded for him.

30th overall in 2001. Pretty weak draft in general when you consider that the 6 guys ahead of him were Lukas Krajicek, Alexander Perezhogin, Jason Bacashihua, Jeff Woywitka, Adrian Foster, and Adam Munro. And even earlier gems such as Alexander Svitov, Stanislav Chistov, Dan Blackburn, Freddy Sjostrom, Igor, Knyazev, Jens Karlsson, and Jiri Novotny. Good argument for the whole "hindsight's twenty-twenty" issue.

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07-19-2013, 08:01 PM
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I remember thinking the same thing when we traded for him.

30th overall in 2001. Pretty weak draft in general when you consider that the 6 guys ahead of him were Lukas Krajicek, Alexander Perezhogin, Jason Bacashihua, Jeff Woywitka, Adrian Foster, and Adam Munro. And even earlier gems such as Alexander Svitov, Stanislav Chistov, Dan Blackburn, Freddy Sjostrom, Igor, Knyazev, Jens Karlsson, and Jiri Novotny. Good argument for the whole "hindsight's twenty-twenty" issue.
he's the only one i know.

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07-19-2013, 08:14 PM
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Simply counting first round picks isn't that productive though. The talent level has increased but it should have anyway. For example, during 2005-06, the Leafs were absolutely loaded with first rounders:

Sundin
Lindros
Allison
Steen
O'Neill
Antropov
Kilger
Berg
Colaiacovo
Richardson
Belak
How do you figure? Years of draft history tell you what carries the most value. Additionally, many of the Leaf first rounders are performing at very high levels. Further, it isn't just the first rounders that has changed. Roughly 50% of the Leaf lineup when Burke started was 5th rounders or later. Compare that to today.

Saying "it has increased but it should have anyway" is a complete cop out. A GM who walks through the door has no control over what happened before him. We essentially sat on 3 first rounders in the whole outfit and now have 13 in under 5 years. We added at a rate of essentially 2-3 per year. If we continued adding 3 first rounders per year people should be ecstatic. Not only did we add them but several of them have performed extremely well. If you look at a pre post histogram of team makeup it is alarming. Thankfully we should be seeing it for decades to come.


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I remember thinking the same thing when we traded for him.

30th overall in 2001. Pretty weak draft in general when you consider that the 6 guys ahead of him were Lukas Krajicek(traded w/Luongo to Van.), Alexander Perezhogin(Pulled a Bert/McSorley on a dude in the Ahl-suspended indefinitely)), Jason Bacashihua (career Ahler), Jeff Woywitka (6-8 d-man), Adrian Foster (?)and Adam Munro (career Ahl goalie). And even earlier gems such as Alexander Svitov(drafted by Espo), Stanislav Chistov(61 p in a 196g), Dan Blackburn(body wasn't as strong a talent-retired young), Freddy Sjostrom, Igor Knyazev(?), Jens Karlsson (18th overall never played in the NHL), and Jiri Novotny(5 seasons in the NHL, 51 p to show). Good argument for the whole "hindsight's twenty-twenty" issue.
slight background on all for those who don't know....

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Too bad we bought out Komisarek or the list would be even longer.
We should just stock up on busts and be like "yeah our entire team is first rounders"

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We should just stock up on busts and be like "yeah our entire team is first rounders"
Cuz the ones we've acquired so far are busts?

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Cuz the ones we've acquired so far are busts?
I think he was referring to Komisarek.

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I think he was referring to Komisarek.
Which is fine except Komi is the exception to the rule here. Phaneuf, Kessel, Lupul, JVR... All very good here in Toronto.

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Cuz the ones we've acquired so far are busts?
Well, mostly I was joking (and responding to someone who was joking).

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Which is fine except Komi is the exception to the rule here. Phaneuf, Kessel, Lupul, JVR... All very good here in Toronto.
I'm pretty sure it was a joke...not meant to start a debate. You're not going to find anyone who will argue with you on this.

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Tyler Biggs is the best looking of the crop

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Which is fine except Komi is the exception to the rule here. Phaneuf, Kessel, Lupul, JVR... All very good here in Toronto.
3/4 of LACK along with Connolly and Armstrong were former 1st rounders.

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The Leafs missed the playoffs for 9 straight years and doing absolutely nothing and simply drafting in the position the NHL would have awarded the Leafs picks at, would have given them 9 X 1st rounders in the system < pick 15 (playoff teams).
Don't forget, it wasn't 9 SEASONS. We only missed 2006-2012. So 7 seasons. Picks we had those years:

-2005: Tuuka Rask (25)
-2006: Jiri Tlusty (13)
-2007: Pick traded for Toskala. Pick used by SJS for Logan Couture.
-2008: Luke Schenn (5)
-2009: Nazem Kadri (7)
-2010: Pick traded to Bruins. Picked Seguin.
-2011: Traded pick #9, Tyler Biggs (22), Stuart Percy (25)
-2012: Morgan Rielly (5)
-2013: Frederik Gauthier (21)

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