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07-19-2013, 09:58 PM
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more like: 3RD LINE, WHY U NO SCORE GOALS? you know, im content in doing the ole
jvr bozak phil, lupul kadri clarkson, jerry d/jmac bolland kulemin as much as the next guy, but Ill tell you right now that I wouldnt be shocked to see
jvr bozak phil
X bolland clarkson
lupul kadri kule

down the stretch, i have a feeling that RC will try and squeeze some offense out of bolland sooner or later, and I could see us going with a 2a 2b at some point

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07-19-2013, 11:04 PM
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I don't know why everyone's assuming they won't score. Sure none of the 3 are creative but they don't have to be. McClemment/Bolland on the cycle and providing net presence with Kulemin's shot doesn't need an offensive genius running the show. They'll grind down opposing 2nd/3rd pairings and defensively weak top lines. Even if they don't score, they'll make it a hell of a lot easier on the next line on to score.

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07-20-2013, 12:44 AM
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I don't know why everyone's assuming they won't score. Sure none of the 3 are creative but they don't have to be. McClemment/Bolland on the cycle and providing net presence with Kulemin's shot doesn't need an offensive genius running the show. They'll grind down opposing 2nd/3rd pairings and defensively weak top lines. Even if they don't score, they'll make it a hell of a lot easier on the next line on to score.
We're just be misusing Bolland who groomed to be a nasty top six centre. The fact that he has a concussion history means that expecting him to play a grinding defensive zone game is probably not a good idea. Carlyle prefers to have his lines driving possession rather than being collapsed in their own zone.

More so, having Kulemin on Kadri's line would make him a lot more productive as well. There is no need to paying a guy nearly $3 million to clog the defensive zone. Unlike Kessel, he really needs a playmaker who can see the ice well. Those defensive specialist roles really need to be kept at EL level contracts.

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07-20-2013, 01:21 AM
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IMO, they should keep Clarkson off our checking line. Hes too slow, not the greatest defensively and would get beat by other teams top lines. I would like to see Carlyle keep him in the top 6 for his grit and net driving ability.

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All three are offensive black holes and would not deter other lines at all.
Are you missing this? Do you mean black hole as in doesn't produce ANYTHING? Didn't Bolland score the game winner in gm 6 of the SCF?

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We need someone for this role. I'd like to see someone brought in via free agency or trade, but I have a feeling we're going to see both D'amigo and Colborne make the team out of camp in bottom 6 roles.

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07-20-2013, 07:53 AM
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We're just be misusing Bolland who groomed to be a nasty top six centre. The fact that he has a concussion history means that expecting him to play a grinding defensive zone game is probably not a good idea. Carlyle prefers to have his lines driving possession rather than being collapsed in their own zone.

More so, having Kulemin on Kadri's line would make him a lot more productive as well. There is no need to paying a guy nearly $3 million to clog the defensive zone. Unlike Kessel, he really needs a playmaker who can see the ice well. Those defensive specialist roles really need to be kept at EL level contracts.
Bolland is not a top 6 centre. Lol.

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We're just be misusing Bolland who groomed to be a nasty top six centre. The fact that he has a concussion history means that expecting him to play a grinding defensive zone game is probably not a good idea. Carlyle prefers to have his lines driving possession rather than being collapsed in their own zone.

More so, having Kulemin on Kadri's line would make him a lot more productive as well. There is no need to paying a guy nearly $3 million to clog the defensive zone. Unlike Kessel, he really needs a playmaker who can see the ice well. Those defensive specialist roles really need to be kept at EL level contracts.
Kulie is our 5th highest paid winger. And since Caryle will have a shutdown line like he has everywhere else he coached one way or another there will be a guy making at least 3m to play om that line.

Also Bolland won 2 cup as a bottom 6 center playing in a shutdown roll. Was he being wasted then?

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07-20-2013, 08:41 AM
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Seems like Bolland and Kulemin are locks to be 2/3 of our shutdown 3rd line. I'm really excited to see these two guys teamed up. They both have such good 2-way ability, being able to shut down opponents and chip in with offense. Especially since our third line in the past has been skilled guys who don't belong there Want to get some other peoples thoughts on them.

How good do you think Bolland and Kulemin will play together?
How hard will they be to play against?
What stats do you expect from each?
And who do you think wins the job as the third man on that line (being one of the spots open in camp)?
Easy one ... McClement

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mcclement bolland kulemin
mcclaren colborne orr

plus marlies call ups

i dont love the idea of having two lines that pretty much cant really score all year...these lines might not score 50 goals this year


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Barring any trades/signings I'd say McClement - Bolland - Kulemin is pretty much a lock and I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do.

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Could end up seeing Clarkson with Bolland and JVR if what Nonis said holds weight. Bigger role.

Code:
Lupul.        Kadri.               Kessel
JVR.           Bolland.           Clarkson
D'amigo.     Bozak.            Kulemin 
McLaren.    McClement.       Orr

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If I were Leafs GM however, I would dispose of JM Liles anyway possible and utilize his Cap and $$ to sign UFA LW Brenden Morrow to play alongside Davey and Nik.

Morrow -- Bolland -- Kulemin

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I think kule and bolland would be awesome with a monster like biggs.
No player in the league would look forward to those dump and chases
As a shut down line i think they would be pretty steady too.
Mcclement has to stay on the fourth line because of all the pk minutes he is going to eat up.

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McClement-Bolland-Kulemin

Could be a fantastic 3rd line
bingo. mcclement on 4th is a waste of talent.

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I agree with people questioning the 4th line's capabilities (or lack thereof).

McClement playing wing on the 3rd makes a lot of sense, in a way depending on how you approach it.

However, I would just keep him on 4th, save his minutes for PK and important defensive situations, and slightly revamp the 4th line so that Orr and Mclaren never play at the same time.

Colborne Bolland Kulemin
Broll McClement Orr/Mclaren (at least there's a little more offensive capability here without sacrificing size and grit and Broll is a natural LW that can be introduced in with limited toi)

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Are you missing this? Do you mean black hole as in doesn't produce ANYTHING? Didn't Bolland score the game winner in gm 6 of the SCF?
If they never ever scored in their NHL careers, they would be out of the league.

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If I were Leafs GM however, I would dispose of JM Liles anyway possible and utilize his Cap and $$ to sign UFA LW Brenden Morrow to play alongside Davey and Nik.

Morrow -- Bolland -- Kulemin
nice veteran presence indeed. also it would make the 4th line great with mcclement.. orr aand mclaren will both play as nonis gave them one way deals. carlyle and nonis want them playing.

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Seems like Bolland and Kulemin are locks to be 2/3 of our shutdown 3rd line. I'm really excited to see these two guys teamed up. They both have such good 2-way ability, being able to shut down opponents and chip in with offense. Especially since our third line in the past has been skilled guys who don't belong there Want to get some other peoples thoughts on them.

How good do you think Bolland and Kulemin will play together?
How hard will they be to play against?
What stats do you expect from each?
And who do you think wins the job as the third man on that line (being one of the spots open in camp)?
I have a feeling Colborne ends up on the line with bolland/kulemin to start the season.

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bingo. mcclement on 4th is a waste of talent.
I think McClement get's on the 4th line because he has to put out tons of PK time which is more exhausting imo. So his TOI evens out usually.

McClement had the highest TOI on the PK in the league last season and highest average time with 3:39 a game. (If not counting helm who played 1 game.)

He's got to be always rested cause a penalty could come at any point and he's the go to guy to kill it off.

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JVR/Bozak/Kessel
Lupul/Kadri/Clarkson
Kulemin/Bolland/______
McClement/Colborne/Orr
McLaren

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I really think McClement should take the 3rd spot on that line, would make a real good shutdown choice and would be perfect for Carlyle. Also gives 2 decent faceoff men in case on gets kicked out. Carlyle seemed to love to have 2 C's in defensive zone faceoffs anyways in case of that. McClement gets wasted on the 4th line anyway IMO.
This. The way linesmen steal the show now with there antics, it's a good idea to have 2 C's out there.

Plus colborne can play 4th line.

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Could end up seeing Clarkson with Bolland and JVR if what Nonis said holds weight. Bigger role.

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Lupul.        Kadri.               Kessel
JVR.           Bolland.           Clarkson
D'amigo.     Bozak.            Kulemin 
McLaren.    McClement.       Orr
5 million plus center playing the 3rd line? No way!

Lupul Bozak Kessel
JVR Kadri Clarkson
McClement Bolland Kulemin
McLaren Colbourne Orr
Bodie
Not sure who Trevor Smith is but he's listed on the TML roster.


Colbourne has spent long enough in the AHL. Time to shine or get the F out.

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If they never ever scored in their NHL careers, they would be out of the league.
Those were the words YOU decided to use. I didn't, you did. I merely brought up the fact that maybe you would like to change your statement. Now, you're beginning to split hairs and argue over semantics. Alrighty then.

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We've got so many bottom 6 forward fillers on the marlies that can easily slot into a 3rd line or 4th line role on the big club, theres no need spending cap space or assets when we can have a rookie fill in (Kinda like Komarov, and he was a great surprise)

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