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Maple Leafs sign G Christopher Gibson (ELC)

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07-19-2013, 09:23 PM
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Wasn't John Gibson drafted with the Leafs 2nd round pick?

Don't remember.
Yes he was because getting Tyler Biggs was so important

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07-19-2013, 09:49 PM
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Yes he was because getting Tyler Biggs was so important
This is why it's a terrible idea to move up in a deep draft unless it's into the top five. Both Rakell and Gibson look better than Biggs.

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07-19-2013, 09:50 PM
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This is why it's a terrible idea to move up in a deep draft unless it's into the top five. Both Rakell and Gibson look better than Biggs.
As a prospect, and does that really matter?

The TML scouts saw a guy they like available and moved up. It's not really a bad trade until someone proves they are far ahead at a level that actually effects the team.

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Isn't he behind Bernier and Reimer and tied with Mark "In da park" Owuya ?

Garrett Sparks is AHL bound, or still CHL ?

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As a prospect, and does that really matter?

The TML scouts saw a guy they like available and moved up. It's not really a bad trade until someone proves they are far ahead at a level that actually effects the team.

Which would you be more excited about?

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07-19-2013, 10:54 PM
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Isn't he behind Bernier and Reimer and tied with Mark "In da park" Owuya ?

Garrett Sparks is AHL bound, or still CHL ?
Should be AHL bound, '93 born. Owuya is a UFA, but the Leafs did sign Drew Mcintyre. I would expect to see Bernier/Reimer, Mcintyre/Sparks, and Gibson/ ___.

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07-19-2013, 11:06 PM
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The Kings are great with their 2nd round picks, here's hoping they got this one right as well

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07-20-2013, 12:07 AM
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I never understood why he was drafted that early. Even his pre-draft stats seem more like a bad joke compared to some other (more promising IMO) Finnish goalie prospects like Saros and Kaapo Kähkönen (2014 draft). With that said, he could still be salvageable by good coaching. They should try to find him a place at home in Finland, if not for next season, then at least the season after that.

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07-20-2013, 12:09 AM
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Isn't he behind Bernier and Reimer and tied with Mark "In da park" Owuya ?

Garrett Sparks is AHL bound, or still CHL ?
Mark Owuya and Jussi Rynnas are out.

AHL #1: Drew MacIntyre
AHL #2: Garret Sparks
ECHL #1: Christopher Gibson
QMJHL: Antoine Bibeau

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Which would you be more excited about?
I don't get excited over prospects until they show me something at the NHL level.

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I think it was a combination of the relatively poor season he had last year, and the fact that the Kings were getting close to the limit on number of contracts, so they let him go, especially since he was about to start his service. I wasn't sure if he could play in Canada while doing his service, but maybe so.

I think the Kings just didn't feel that he had progressed as much as they expected him to.

But as for the future...who knows?

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I think it was a combination of the relatively poor season he had last year, and the fact that the Kings were getting close to the limit on number of contracts, so they let him go, especially since he was about to start his service. I wasn't sure if he could play in Canada while doing his service, but maybe so.

I think the Kings just didn't feel that he had progressed as much as they expected him to.

But as for the future...who knows?
We actually have a good deal of room contracts wise. It's pretty simple - Gibson sucks. He should have never been a 2nd rounder. It absolutely was the right move to not sign him.

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Clearly, the better of the Gibsons.

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As a prospect, and does that really matter?

The TML scouts saw a guy they like available and moved up. It's not really a bad trade until someone proves they are far ahead at a level that actually effects the team.
I think Burke saw a guy he liked and wanted to move up.. Not necessarily the scouts. PUGNACITY!!

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I think Burke saw a guy he liked and wanted to move up.. Not necessarily the scouts. PUGNACITY!!
Actually, they had Percy ranked higher than Biggs. But Morrison felt that Biggs was going to go really soon and not make it to #30, that they had to move for the #22 pick and hope that Percy "fell" to #25. So they had liked Percy more, but felt that the next guy they liked (Biggs) was going to be picked really soon. So based on Morrison's advice, they made the move.

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Whenever he got the small chance to play for Finland i thought he always looked good but he had some really bad luck and the defense let him down big time. I dont know how he's played in the Q but i've heard the defense aint so great there either.

Could be a very good signing. He has potential but there has to be some confidence issues. Give him a good team, see his confidence build up, good goalie coach to teach him and he could be a solid #2 goalie in the future.

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Isn't he behind Bernier and Reimer and tied with Mark "In da park" Owuya ?

Garrett Sparks is AHL bound, or still CHL ?
Owuya wasn't retained.

Gibson will battle Sparks for the backup/1b role behind MacIntyre with the Marlies.

Leafs needed a 5th stringer and Gibson fits that bill very well. I don't think he'll beat out Sparks but he should be able to get plenty of ECHL starts.

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07-20-2013, 10:17 AM
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I signed him in NHL 13, then was able to trade him and a 3rd to Anaheim for John Gibson. Get it done Nonis!

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great signing... 20yr old goalie who showed great promise. hopefully with the right coaching he can turn it around.

excellent no risk, high reward signing.

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Owuya wasn't retained.

Gibson will battle Sparks for the backup/1b role behind MacIntyre with the Marlies.

Leafs needed a 5th stringer and Gibson fits that bill very well. I don't think he'll beat out Sparks but he should be able to get plenty of ECHL starts.
Sparks IMO is an AHL goalie and really wouldn't gain a whole lot from the ECHL. MacIntyre/Sparks for the Marlies

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Wasn't John Gibson drafted with the Leafs 2nd round pick?

Don't remember.
Yes. The Ducks traded down from 22nd overall to get the 30th and 39th pick. At 30th they got Rickard Rakell, and at 39 they got John Gibson.

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Not sure why Kings fans, who probably only saw him at their rookie camp, are so quick to call him a bust.

Goalies, especially toolsie ones like Chris Gibson, always have upside. There's no harm signing a 20 year old goalie with talent. If he doesn't progress, well who cares. I do know if this wasn't a Leafs signing though it wouldn't get more than a few posts mention.

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Calgary already has their hands full in terms of project goalies, in Ramo and Berra..
This kid is several years away at best. Play him in the minors, or loan him out somewhere to get icetime. Calgary signing him wouldn't interfere with Ramo and Berra.

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Good move here by the Leafs. If Gibson plays up to his potential the Leafs will have a great goalie for the next 10-15 years.

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Typical Leafs, filling the most critical position on the ice with free wallets, castoffs, and late round picks with questionable ability. I know that it`s difficult to project how goalies will develop making it risky to spend high picks on them, but does that mean you always have to scrape the bargain bin? A guy like Fucale, with a memorial cup on his resume and oozing potential drops into the second round in a draft the Leafs need to take a goalie in, and they are just like "meh, we'll just draft one in the 6th and sign a free agent scrub." It's maddening. The last time the Leafs drafted a goalie with a high pick it was Rask, and it would have worked pretty well for them if they kept him in the system (instead of trading him to make room for their late round limited talent scrub Pogge). Why Toronto, WHY??!?! Leave the free wallet where it is, strut up to the counter and pay the price for something good instead of just taking random swipes at a bunch of crust that may end up being a goalie some day. Geeze.

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