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Sean Couturier signs extension with Flyers (2 years, $1.75M AAV)

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07-20-2013, 12:14 PM
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Him being signed at a lower amount right now sets him up for a bigger deal later on. Also, it keeps him from currently outpricing himself now while there's some other contracts on the books
Yeah, but he could have waited it out for a couple months. If he starts the season off well, he could have likely gotten around 2.5m for 2 years. It really made no sense for him to sign a deal now given that he's almost guaranteed to have a better year next season.

I'm definitely not complaining, though. It just proves how much emphasis the Flyers place on locking their players up early.

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Doesn't he have 1 more year at an ELC? So next year (ELC) then next 2 years at $1.75 AAV then RFA again, correct?
Yes sir. Paul Holmgren strikes again.

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Some curious timing here..I know its not a great a idea to negotiate mid-season or in the playoffs so this looks like Homer is worried other teams will poach his RFAs. Its not like he's in a particularly great cap situation either.
Lol, yeah, curious timing for Couturier...not for Holmgren. The Flyers want to get him locked in now to keep his price down. Has nothing to do with worrying about RFAs. If you haven't noticed by now, not many Flyers actually make it to RFA.

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Some curious timing here..I know its not a great a idea to negotiate mid-season or in the playoffs so this looks like Homer is worried other teams will poach his RFAs. Its not like he's in a particularly great cap situation either.
They now have Giroux, Voracek, Lecavalier, Simmonds, Couturier, Hartnell, Laughton, Talbot, and Rinaldo locked up for the next 2+ years. Brayden Schenn is still under their control after this season and he shouldn't be getting a big raise regardless.

On defense, they have L. Schenn, Coburn, Streit, and Grossman locked up for 2+ years with several RFA's and Entry-level contracts coming up.

They are not in a bad position going forward salary cap wise. You could make a case they are in a good spot.

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Yeah, but he could have waited it out for a couple months. If he starts the season off well, he could have likely gotten around 2.5m for 2 years. It really made no sense for him to sign a deal now given that he's almost guaranteed to have a better year next season.

I'm definitely not complaining, though. It just proves how much emphasis the Flyers place on locking their players up early.
Lower amount makes him more valuable to the flyers. Which means it'd be more to get him

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Yes sir. Paul Holmgren strikes again.
He's definitely great at evaluating and signing forwards. That's for sure. Lecavalier, Simmonds, Voracek, JvR, Giroux, Richards, Carter etc are all good deals.

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They now have Giroux, Voracek, Lecavalier, Simmonds, Couturier, Hartnell, Laughton, Talbot, and Rinaldo locked up for the next 2+ years. Brayden Schenn is still under their control after this season and he shouldn't be getting a big raise regardless.

On defense, they have Coburn, Streit, and Grossman locked up for 2+ years with several RFA's and Entry-level contracts coming up.

They are not in a bad position going forward salary cap wise. You could make a case they are in a good spot.
You also left our Luke Schenn.

The only problem we really have regarding the Cap is Pronger, but we can wiggle around that easily

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Odd signing. Why would you sign a player to a bridge extension one year in advance? Even more strange, a contract that cements him as a bottom six forward. Couturier and his agent doesn't think there is any offense there?

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Odd signing. Why would you sign a player to a bridge extension one year in advance? Even more strange, a contract that cements him as a bottom six forward. Couturier and his agent doesn't think there is any offense there?
How does his contract cement him as a bottom 6 forward? Cap hit isn't relative to yoour location on the roster

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someone enlighten me... has Couturiers stock fallen so much?

Is he really just a "third line checker"??

I mean, because apparently last summer he was the deal breaker that kept philly from getting Weber...

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Odd signing. Why would you sign a player to a bridge extension one year in advance? Even more strange, a contract that cements him as a bottom six forward. Couturier and his agent doesn't think there is any offense there?
Maybe, just maybe, Couturier wants to help the team out by giving them more cap space to make other moves and is hoping to cash in on his next contract?

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Great deal IMO, now that he is locked up he won't have to worry about getting traded and can produce (like he did after trade deadline). Future 2 way star

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someone enlighten me... has Couturiers stock fallen so much?

Is he really just a "third line checker"??

I mean, because apparently last summer he was the deal breaker that kept philly from getting Weber...
well, according to a lot of people, he's a bust

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someone enlighten me... has Couturiers stock fallen so much?

Is he really just a "third line checker"??

I mean, because apparently last summer he was the deal breaker that kept philly from getting Weber...
The deal last year was Schenn+Couturier++ apparently

His stock hasn't fallen. It's a prove it contract.

Most of his problem is the way Laviolette uses him

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How does his contract cement him as a bottom 6 forward? Cap hit isn't relative to yoour location on the roster
Salary is a reflection of how the player is viewed. You think Homer said he sees Couturier as a top six forward and by the way wants to pay him Talbot money?

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Maybe, just maybe, Couturier wants to help the team out by giving them more cap space to make other moves and is hoping to cash in on his next contract?
Perhaps, but he's not even RFA right now. Why wouldn't he make that move to take a discount when he is actually RFA, so he can gauge the situation then? Good deal for Philly either way. Even if the guy never turns into the 2-way 2nd line centre he could be, he's still a heckuva 3rd liner at that price.

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The deal last year was Schenn+Couturier++ apparently

His stock hasn't fallen. It's a prove it contract.

Most of his problem is the way Laviolette uses him
Completely agree, he is used incorrectly by Laviolette.

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Salary is a reflection of how the player is viewed. You think Homer said he sees Couturier as a top six forward and by the way wants to pay him Talbot money?
You can't compare RFA contract to UFA contracts.

By this logic, subban is at best a 2nd pairing D man due to his cap hit

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Salary is a reflection of how the player is viewed. You think Homer said he sees Couturier as a top six forward and by the way wants to pay him Talbot money?
Giroux is playing for 3.75 million this year.

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Maybe, just maybe, Couturier wants to help the team out by giving them more cap space to make other moves and is hoping to cash in on his next contract?
Yep, Homer convinced him to take a quarter million dollar paycut for 2 years because that'll be the difference between adding another player to the roster and not adding one. Then when time comes to pay it forward to Couturier, Homer will sign him and ship him out.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

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Not even sure anyone would have been interested in him TBH.
Thats adorable

Remind me what makes him so much less valuable than RNH?

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So much for him getting signed to humongous offersheets from 29 NHL teams, every KHL team, and a few NBA teams to boot.

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Yes sir. Paul Holmgren strikes again.
If anything this makes Couts an even more valuable trade commodity IMO. Signed cheap for the next 3 years and still an RFA. A lot of teams should be interested in that; especially if they see more offensive potential in him playing top 6 min + more PP time vs what he's getting in Philly.

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