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07-21-2013, 09:17 PM
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Mac > Kadri

Rielly > Siemens

Sgabossa = Biggs

2nd = 2nd


Basically just swapping offensive potential for defensive potential.
Let me fix this.

Mac >>>>>>>>> Kadri
Siemens <<<< Rielly
Sgarbossa >> Biggs
Our 2nd > your 2nd (Toronto is a surefire playoff team right LeafswantStanley?)


A big fat NO to all of those lovely proposals.

Siemens and Sgarbossa are arguably our top2 prospects after MacKinnon. There is no way we add them to a Rental swap of Stastny and Phaneuf. Franson is absolutely not needed in Denver...

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07-21-2013, 09:20 PM
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Mac > Kadri

Rielly > Siemens

Sgabossa = Biggs

2nd = 2nd


Basically just swapping offensive potential for defensive potential.
exactly!...its a win-win trade

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07-21-2013, 09:21 PM
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We trade two of our Top 4 dmen and our only RHD for that? No thanks. Avs fans don't want anything to do with any Leafs player.

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07-21-2013, 09:37 PM
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Mac > Kadri

Rielly > Siemens

Sgabossa = Biggs

2nd = 2nd


Basically just swapping offensive potential for defensive potential.
Dude,

Just face it the only way you're getting Mack is with Bozak and a 2nd....

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07-21-2013, 09:42 PM
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Dude,

Just face it the only way you're getting Mack is with Bozak and a 2nd....
please be real...we dont need you making light of a serious and potentially productive area of discussion.

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07-21-2013, 09:45 PM
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please be real...we dont need you making light of a serious and potentially productive area of discussion.
When was the last time a #1 Overall pick was moved before playing for their team? 3 years with their team?

Highly productive discussion based in a reality where pigs fly and unicorns fart rainbows.

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07-21-2013, 09:46 PM
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Kessel - Phanuef - Kadri - Rielly - Gardiner - JVR - Lupul - Bernier - 1st rounder - conditional 2nd.

Could add a little more if you want.
Wanna offer Kessel, Rielly and JVR for Dutchy? Cause that's the point at which you actually think about trading a player like Duchene right now.

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07-21-2013, 09:46 PM
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please be real...we dont need you making light of a serious and potentially productive area of discussion.
Productive discussion? Where? You mean the conversation you're having with a fellow Leafs fan discussing MacKinnon to Toronto?

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Why the hell would we A)trade away 2 of our 3 best defensemen B) trade for a center without trading one of the 5 we have already

Leafs and Avs do not make good trading partners right now. We are stacked at forward, we need D, something Colorado probably has the least of out of every team.

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Productive discussion? Where? You mean the conversation you're having with a fellow Leafs fan discussing MacKinnon to Toronto?
whether its liked or not leafs and avs are good trading partners...the wealth of assets on each team meet the needs of the other.

and i was just joking about the bozak thing; however, orielly, stats or duchene could go for rielly, phanefu, or gards-- i'm sure of it

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whether its liked or not leafs and avs are good trading partners...the wealth of assets on each team meet the needs of the other.

and i was just joking about the bozak thing; however, orielly, stats or duchene could go for rielly, phanefu, or gards-- i'm sure of it
yeah but we don't really want Phanuef...

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07-21-2013, 10:17 PM
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Sweet. Then sit tight and see what heppens when Roy, Sakic and Greg from accounting sit down with Paul and Ryan's agents to work out extensions. Cause like Roy and the team, this avs fan is excited about having all 4 of our centers, as well as our crafty playmaking wingers and our two sweet grindy wingers. Our top 9 is just perfect the way it is.

And with how young we are we can afford to see how our defensive prospects come along while the forwards grow into their primes, before we're forced into any big trades.

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yeah but we don't really want Phanuef...
I'd take Phaneuf.

Not for Duchene or MacKinnon, but leaving trade cost aside for a moment, I wouldn't mind Phaneuf on the Avs roster.

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I'd take Phaneuf.

Not for Duchene or MacKinnon, but leaving trade cost aside for a moment, I wouldn't mind Phaneuf on the Avs roster.
I guess if we want a new whipping boy.

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I guess if we want a new whipping boy.
Lol then I wonder what you think of your current D core cause Phaneuf is better by every single one of your d-men. The worst core in the league.

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Phaneuf for O'rielly at the deadline....done deal; nice doin business with you fellows; enjoy your playoffs

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No thank you.

Avs can keep their 50 point forward and the leafs will keep their 50 point defenseman.
NHL totals 467 135 263 398

NHL totals 600 106 234 340

You want to retract that statement?

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I guess if we want a new whipping boy.
Compared to what?

I mean, I get that Phaneuf has holes in his game, but this is Colorado's defense we're talking about - which was the worst blueline personnel in the WC last year, and improved this offseason by acquiring Sarich. Phaneuf would waltz onto Colorado's top pairing and would not be pushed in the least.

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Lol then I wonder what you think of your current D core cause Phaneuf is better by every single one of your d-men. The worst core in the league.
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Compared to what?

I mean, I get that Phaneuf has holes in his game, but this is Colorado's defense we're talking about - which was the worst blueline personnel in the WC last year, and improved this offseason by acquiring Sarich. Phaneuf would waltz onto Colorado's top pairing and would not be pushed in the least.
Phaneuf would be asked to do more in Colorado then he does in Toronto and would end up making more of his stupid mistakes. Also being the highest paid player there would be higher expectations compared to the other dmen on the team. So yes he would replace Hunwick as our whipping boy.

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Dude,

Just face it the only way you're getting Mack is with Bozak and a 2nd....
I wasn't aware I had made a proposal? Don't get ahead of yourself.

I'd entertain a trade involving O'Reilly but that's about all I would bother looking for from the Avs. Everything else is either to expensive or useless. Colorado in the same position as Edmonton, handful of top end pieces that cannot be moved and then a bunch of garbage that noone want's.

If you want to talk O'Reilly i'd be happy to hash out something. It would have to include Bozak because of the depth chart.

Colorado:
Gardiner
Bozak

Toronto:
O'Reilly

Leave the childish remarks in Denver, you're not talking to a kid here.


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07-21-2013, 10:59 PM
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I wasn't aware I had made a proposal? Don't get ahead of yourself.

I'd entertain a trade involving O'Reilly but that's about all I would bother looking for from the Avs. Everything else is either to expensive or useless. Colorado in the same position as Edmonton, handful of top end pieces that cannot be moved and then a bunch of garbage that noone want's.

If you want to talk O'Reilly i'd be happy to hash out something.
Certainly not for Phaneuf.

Stastny+ 2nd for Phaneuf is the best I would do.
Rental for rental. UFA for UFA.

Both only get traded if the original team can not re-sign them.

2nd to balance it out. Even though we have probably no use for him at the deadline anyways (because out of playoff contention). Only makes sense if we can extend him and that kind of screws up the concept of this trade...

Yeah. Better hope that Roy/Sakic loses Nonis phonenumber. Bad trading partners...

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07-21-2013, 11:29 PM
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Certainly not for Phaneuf.

Stastny+ 2nd for Phaneuf is the best I would do.
Rental for rental. UFA for UFA.

Both only get traded if the original team can not re-sign them.

2nd to balance it out. Even though we have probably no use for him at the deadline anyways (because out of playoff contention). Only makes sense if we can extend him and that kind of screws up the concept of this trade...

Yeah. Better hope that Roy/Sakic loses Nonis phonenumber. Bad trading partners...
Since i edited it after you quoted. Bozak would have to be included for depth chart reasons and salary cap.

Colorado:
Jake Gardiner
Tyler Bozak

Toronto:
Ryan O'Reilly


You get an immediate replacement for O'Reilly and put a young top 4 Dman piece on the backend (Which you need). Leafs fans will argue that the gap between Bozak and O'Reilly isn't Gardiner but i believe we can fill Gardiners spot internally altho with a weaker replacement.

Thoughts?


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Phaneuf for O'rielly at the deadline....done deal; nice doin business with you fellows; enjoy your playoffs
O'Reilly for a guy a few months from UFA? No thanks.

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Since i edited it after you quoted. Bozak would have to be included for depth chart reasons and salary cap.

Colorado:
Jake Gardiner
Tyler Bozak

Toronto:
Ryan O'Reilly


You get an immediate replacement for O'Reilly and put a young top 4 Dman piece on the backend (Which you need). Leafs fans will argue that the gap between Bozak and O'Reilly isn't Gardiner but i believe we can fill Gardiners spot internally altho with a weaker replacement.

Thoughts?
Well taking on Bozak is not really a + valuewise for us. 4th line center making 4.25M is not really what you want on your team...

I am not Gardiners biggest fan. If we move ROR, we will see what is out there. Hopefully there are better offers out there than Gardiner + salary dump (doubt that we could swing Bozak to another team for anything more than a late round pick if at all)....

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What the hell is this?

Not every team is like Edmonton. We actually want a chance to win now. So I'll pass on this. Top 4 d are important.

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