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07-23-2013, 03:43 PM
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Tatar to Buffalo

Saw his name mentioned in another thread and was just wondering what it would take to get him to Buffalo. A couple reasons why he would fit well in Buffalo:
1.He's young
2.He fills a need (Dynamic offensive winger)
3.He wouldn't cost a ton (to acquire)

Why Detroit would be inclined to trade him:
1.They have a logjam of forwards
2.He's NHL ready but there is no spot for him on the roster
The only things that are off limit's are high end young players and 1st round draft picks.
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Saw his name mentioned in another thread and was just wondering what it would take to get him to Buffalo. A couple reasons why he would fit well in Buffalo:
1.He's young
2.He fills a need (Dynamic offensive winger)
3.He wouldn't cost a ton (to acquire)

Why Detroit would be inclined to trade him:
1.They have a logjam of forwards
2.He's NHL ready but there is no spot for him on the roster
The only things that are off limit's are high end young players and 1st round draft picks.
Fire away!
Why would the wings trade him when they should just keep developing him and promote him on the main roster. Doesnt seem you're making it reasonable for the wings to contemplate trading him

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07-23-2013, 04:19 PM
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Tatar is NHL-ready and will absolutely be on the team next season. The Wings need to clear some roster space, yes, but dealing away one of their best, most ready prospects isn't the way they're going to do it.

But hey, you can have him in exchange for Vanek, Armia, and your 2014 1st and 2nd. Maybe.

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07-23-2013, 04:21 PM
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Detroit will clear a spot for him.

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Tatar is NHL-ready and will absolutely be on the team next season. The Wings need to clear some roster space, yes, but dealing away one of their best, most ready prospects isn't the way they're going to do it.

But hey, you can have him in exchange for Vanek, Armia, and your 2014 1st and 2nd. Maybe.
Great. Since I saw Wings fans trying to move him I thought he was available,my bad.
While we're at it Zetterberg,Datsyuk and Kronwall for Stafford and a 7th

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Great. Since I saw Wings fans trying to move him I thought he was available,my bad.
While we're at it Zetterberg,Datsyuk and Kronwall for Stafford and a 7th
Make it two 7ths so Hakan can pick a new Datsyuk and Zetterberg.

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One of Pysyk/McNabb and a 2nd. I would love Tatar but no way DET goes for it.

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One of Pysyk/McNabb and a 2nd. I would love Tatar but no way DET goes for it.
I was thinking McNabb+2nd+3rd(2015) and since our 2nd will likely be top 5 it essentially is a first round pick. Thought that was good value.

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I have a feeling the Detroit organization would be very high on Mark Pysyk...but I can't see Buffalo moving him. Still just for the heck of it, Tatar+ for Pysyk+.

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Saw his name mentioned in another thread and was just wondering what it would take to get him to Buffalo. A couple reasons why he would fit well in Buffalo:
1.He's young
2.He fills a need (Dynamic offensive winger)
3.He wouldn't cost a ton (to acquire)

Why Detroit would be inclined to trade him:
1.They have a logjam of forwards
2.He's NHL ready but there is no spot for him on the roster
The only things that are off limit's are high end young players and 1st round draft picks.
Fire away!
So you want Tatar but high end young players and 1sts are off the table? come on. He's not a blue chip prospect but we're not looking to just give him up. His value is certainly high to wings fans.

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One of Pysyk/McNabb and a 2nd. I would love Tatar but no way DET goes for it.
I wouldn't trade Pysyk straight up for Tatar, let alone adding a 2nd round pick. If Myers can get his act together, the Sabres' future is bright at RD with Myers, Ristolainen, and Pysyk.

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So you want Tatar but high end young players and 1sts are off the table? come on. He's not a blue chip prospect but we're not looking to just give him up. His value is certainly high to wings fans.
By high end I meant Hodgson,Armia,Grigs,Girgs,Myers and our lottery pick. there are plenty of other talented players that could be had for Tatar (Pysyk,Leduc,Vanek,Ennis) Don't quite understand what the problem is.

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By high end I meant Hodgson,Armia,Grigs,Girgs,Myers and our lottery pick. there are plenty of other talented players that could be had for Tatar (Pysyk,Leduc,Vanek,Ennis) Don't quite understand what the problem is.
One of these is not like the others.

I also find who you think is expendable vs. untouchable odd.

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Saw his name mentioned in another thread and was just wondering what it would take to get him to Buffalo. A couple reasons why he would fit well in Buffalo:
1.He's young
2.He fills a need (Dynamic offensive winger)
3.He wouldn't cost a ton (to acquire)


Why Detroit would be inclined to trade him:
1.They have a logjam of forwards
2.He's NHL ready but there is no spot for him on the roster
The only things that are off limit's are high end young players and 1st round draft picks.
Fire away!
Weird those are the exact same reasons he would fit in every other organization, including none other than the Detroit Red Wings...

Can't see Tatar on any team but Detroit

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One of these is not like the others.

I also find who you think is expendable vs. untouchable odd.
How so? The G's are a fundamental part of our rebuild, armia is our only dynamic offensive winger prospect and Hodgson is our future 2c. Meanwhile pysyk,Ennis,Leduc and thought maybe Tatar could be included in a deal for vanek.

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As just posted in the other thread, the most likely way for Buffalo to get their hands on Tatar is in part of the package for a Vanek deal.

So in one sense he will cost a ton, he will be moved as part of a package for a premium upgrade or for another interesting young asset, like the D-man you guys just flipped about including if it is a one for one.

Tatar is available more than likely for the right things, but that doesn't make him cheap to acquire at all.


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How so? The G's are a fundamental part of our rebuild, armia is our only dynamic offensive winger prospect and Hodgson is our future 2c. Meanwhile pysyk,Ennis,Leduc and thought maybe Tatar could be included in a deal for vanek.
You feel the need to hold onto Armia because he is a dynamic, young winger, but have no issue throwing away Ennis who is a dynamic, young wing/center who has already proven he can play. You call Hodgson our future #2, but then why are Grigs/Girgs so important? Aren't they are future 1and 2? A future 3 isn't something that is unmovable. How do you put Leduc in that category? He's barely a prospect. It feels very scattered, like you just picked your favorite players.

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Saw his name mentioned in another thread and was just wondering what it would take to get him to Buffalo. A couple reasons why he would fit well in Buffalo:
1.He's young
2.He fills a need (Dynamic offensive winger)
3.He wouldn't cost a ton (to acquire)

Why Detroit would be inclined to trade him:
1.They have a logjam of forwards
2.He's NHL ready but there is no spot for him on the roster
The only things that are off limit's are high end young players and 1st round draft picks.
Fire away!
Why he'd fit?
1. Only thing we agree on.

2 and 3 are completely contrary to each other.

If he's such a dynamic winger that you want him badly, why do you think he wouldn't cost much?


Why the Wings trade him?
The Wings have a logjam of BOTTOM SIX forwards. They're not going to trade away a guy that has top 6 potential so they can hold onto Cory Emmerton or Todd Bertuzzi. Tatar is young, fast, and not shy about shooting. He's the exact type of player that Detroit needs. So if you want him from the Wings, you're gonna have to overpay. Now, I'm not saying he's completely untouchable, but you're also not gonna be able to get him for table scraps.

The Wings don't have a logjam in terms of players like him. They'd buyout Sammy or LTIR him and Bertuzzi long before they'd trade Tatar for some middling return.

There will definitely be a spot for him on the roster. There wasn't last year because he and Nyquist still had minor league options. The Wings didn't have to worry about losing anyone to waivers if they sent them down. Since Tatar will need to pass through waivers, he's going to be in Detroit all year this year.

So to wrap this up... you want a high end young player from the Red Wings without giving up a high end young player from your team. Am I reading that right?

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I could see Tatar being in a trade for Vanek.


Vanek
3rd Rnd


Tatar
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Samuelsson

Something like that could work.

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