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07-23-2013, 09:30 AM
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Hockey's Future Canadiens page updated!!!

The habs prospect page has been updated just thought I'd share so we could discuss our thoughts on it. Personally I'm upset at both Gallys still being a C, I think they proved more than enough. Also DLR should be a 7B seeing as all scouts pointed to him most likely being a 2-3rd liner without a doubt.

Anyways what are your thoughts on it?

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/teams/montreal_canadiens/

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I'm surprised at C for Tinordi.

He's a 7B IMO

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I'm also still surprised that Bozon, Hudon, and Collberg are still ranked as D's.

According to HF, our top 6 LW prospects are all D's lol

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Just realised that they only added the new drafted players and they did not update any of the older players nor did they remove player who shouldn't be there anymore (Galchenyuk, Gallagher and Geoffrion)

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I'm surprised at C for Tinordi.

He's a 7B IMO
The same thing could be said about Gallagher.

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So Louis LeBlanc and Blake Geoffrion are the only prospects with a "B" for probability of success?

Didn't one retire and the other take a huge step back this year? Those might need to be updated in order to keep in line with the rest of the guys in the system.

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I'm surprised at C for Tinordi.

He's a 7B IMO
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I'm also still surprised that Bozon, Hudon, and Collberg are still ranked as D's.

According to HF, our top 6 LW prospects are all D's lol
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The same thing could be said about Gallagher.
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So Louis LeBlanc and Blake Geoffrion are the only prospects with a "B" for probability of success?

Didn't one retire and the other take a huge step back this year? Those might need to be updated in order to keep in line with the rest of the guys in the system.
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Just realised that they only added the new drafted players and they did not update any of the older players nor did they remove player who shouldn't be there anymore (Galchenyuk, Gallagher and Geoffrion)



That would make sense.

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Just realised that they only added the new drafted players and they did not update any of the older players nor did they remove player who shouldn't be there anymore (Galchenyuk, Gallagher and Geoffrion)
Technically the Gallys have graduated yet as you must have played 65 NHL games but I think HF will remove them anyways since "they've arrived as NHL players"

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I'm also still surprised that Bozon, Hudon, and Collberg are still ranked as D's.

According to HF, our top 6 LW prospects are all D's lol
I find that a bit weird. You'd think that at least of prospect would have a B, besides Leblanc. Collberg and Tinordi should have been given higher letters IMO.

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Those are the WORST rankings I have ever seen in my life. How the **** are Tinordi, Gallagher, and Galchenyuk "C risked" when they're already in the NHL?

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There are too many C's. It's impossible to have so many. Who did our ranking on prospects?

Let Whitesnake do it and pay him, hockeysfuture.

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Those are the WORST rankings I have ever seen in my life. How the **** are Tinordi, Gallagher, and Galchenyuk "C risked" when they're already in the NHL?
1) As has been said, the rankings for the old players aren't updated - they only added our new draftees

2) The "risk" isn't whether they'll make the NHL or not, but whether they'll reach their max potential. I'm not sure when those rankings were assigned, but Galchenyuk, Gallagher and Tinordi were all seen as risky prospects at one time or another. So a "C" ranking isn't really unthinkable when all it means is "could reach max potential, but could drop two rankings as well".

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1) As has been said, the rankings for the old players aren't updated - they only added our new draftees

2) The "risk" isn't whether they'll make the NHL or not, but whether they'll reach their max potential. I'm not sure when those rankings were assigned, but Galchenyuk, Gallagher and Tinordi were all seen as risky prospects at one time or another. So a "C" ranking isn't really unthinkable when all it means is "could reach max potential, but could drop two rankings as well".
Ahhhhhhhh. Never mind.

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Why aren't Gallagher and Galchenyuk in the graduated part and Geoffrion removed from the team ?

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Why aren't Gallagher and Galchenyuk in the graduated part and Geoffrion removed from the team ?
Haven't you read ANY of this thread?

TL/DR version for you

New guys added
Old guys haven't been changed/edited = Status quo

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You guys must be new here if you don't understand the issues and hilarity with HF's rankings. They have always been a disaster and out of touch. I think they outsource their rankings.

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You guys must be new here if you don't understand the issues and hilarity with HF's rankings. They have always been a disaster and out of touch. I think they outsource their rankings.
Was just going to post something similar.

I didn't know that people who actually read hockeysfuture content still existed.

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Was just going to post something similar.

I didn't know that people who actually read hockeysfuture content still existed.
I actually haven't checked out any other part of the site in years, it has been a disaster since I have been here.

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I actually haven't checked out any other part of the site in years, it has been a disaster since I have been here.
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Yeah, that's about right.

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Yeah don't put much stock in these rankings whatsoever. Alot of them are way way off.

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1) As has been said, the rankings for the old players aren't updated - they only added our new draftees

2) The "risk" isn't whether they'll make the NHL or not, but whether they'll reach their max potential. I'm not sure when those rankings were assigned, but Galchenyuk, Gallagher and Tinordi were all seen as risky prospects at one time or another. So a "C" ranking isn't really unthinkable when all it means is "could reach max potential, but could drop two rankings as well".
Bingo

I think that people have too much familiarity with the letter based grading used in school where a "C" is mediocre/bad and a "D" pretty terrible (unless all you need is to pass the course).

HF's ranking doesn't work the same way. While I don't necessarily agree that Chuckie deserves a "C", it does translate here to a potential ranging from borderline allstar to "okay" 2nd liner (8.5 to 6.5). It also seems pretty fair to say that Bozon for example could end up being a very good 2nd liner or a journeyman (7.5-4.5). The system is flawed but it's not THAT bad.

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How can Louis Leblanc be ranked a B and Galchenyuk ranked a C? WTF is going on with these horrible rankings! This is by far the most inaccurate and horrible rankings I have seen yet from hockeys future.

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Those are the WORST rankings I have ever seen in my life. How the **** are Tinordi, Gallagher, and Galchenyuk "C risked" when they're already in the NHL?
And Leblanc, the player who's the biggest question mark at this point, is a B.

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1) As has been said, the rankings for the old players aren't updated - they only added our new draftees

2) The "risk" isn't whether they'll make the NHL or not, but whether they'll reach their max potential. I'm not sure when those rankings were assigned, but Galchenyuk, Gallagher and Tinordi were all seen as risky prospects at one time or another. So a "C" ranking isn't really unthinkable when all it means is "could reach max potential, but could drop two rankings as well".
Then the grading system is odd. What are the criteria for max potential risk? Johnny Puck from the OHL skates like the wind, scored 75 goals and is defensively responsible but we had to give him a "D" because he's only 5'10", was drafted by Florida and is a drinker?

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It's like if they asked ESPN for their input on putting this together.

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