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08-28-2013, 10:23 AM
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Brenden Kichton officially under contract

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#NHLJets sign D Brenden Kitchon to a 3-year, two-way, entry level contract worth $620,000. Big-time point producer in WHL with Spokane.
celebrate!!!

wait, who?

oh yeah, this guy

guessing he's slotted into the AHl line-up with call-up potential?

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Great. I wonder if Lipon will get an ELC like Kichton, or if he'll sign strictly with St. John's. I could see him signing strictly an AHL deal (Exactly like Andrew Shaw did in 2011, identical situation), but, I think the Jets may just opt for an ELC rather than having to sign the ELC partway through the year if they were to decide to recall him.

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Excellent. So now we have Bogosian winning the Norris, Schiefele, Kichton and O Dell as Calder finalists, this will be a season to remember.

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I am curious to see what kind of numbers he will put up this year.

He should log some big PP TOI this year.

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I get a Nolan Baumgartner feel from Kitchon. He's got all the tools and offensive instincts but I don't see his size or skills translating to the NHL. He has a good chance at being a star in the AHL and well worth a look in case he can make the jump at some point in the next three years.

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I am curious to see what kind of numbers he will put up this year.

He should log some big PP TOI this year.
Some pretty big numbers as an overager. Will be interesting to see how well his game translates in the A.

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Excellent. Looking forward to seeing him work in St. John's.

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Some pretty big numbers as an overager. Will be interesting to see how well his game translates in the A.
Actually had 3 great years back to back not just as an overager. This could work out to be a great pick up for a 7th rounder.

Year Team GP G A P Pen +/-
2010-11 Spokane Chiefs WHL 64 23 58 81 31 55
2011-12 Spokane Chiefs WHL 71 17 57 74 49 24
2012-13 Spokane Chiefs WHL 71 22 63 85 30 39

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celebrate!!!

wait, who?

oh yeah, this guy

guessing he's slotted into the AHl line-up with call-up potential?
He'll be about 4th-6th on the depth chart in St. John's among signed players, really doubt he would get a callup.

Loser of Trouba/Redmond battle, Pardy, Melchiori will be called up before him.

It'll be interesting to see how he fits in down there. I think some people have some inflated expectations based on junior stats. He will be battling for bottom pairing icetime with Chiarot and Sol, and will have be battling veterans in Pardy and Melchiori for icetime on the #2 PP unit. We'll see how he does, McCambridge seems to like complete players and stresses twoway play which is in NO WAY Kichton's strength. His d-zone coverage makes Postma look like Ryan McDonagh.

Speaking of Postma, that is actually a really solid comparable. In both stats and playing style, but Postma has much better size for winning battles and reaching to recover.

Postma
(17)2006-07 Swift Current Broncos WHL 70 5 19 24 42 -19 | Playoffs 6 0 1 1 0 -3
(18)2007-08 Swift Current Broncos WHL 2 0 0 0 2 0 |
Calgary Hitmen WHL 66 14 28 42 30 26 | Playoffs 16 6 4 10 4 -4
(19)2008-09 Calgary Hitmen WHL 70 23 61 84 28 67 | Playoffs 18 5 8 13 10 9
(20)2009-10 Chicago Wolves AHL 63 15 14 29 24 5 | Playoffs 7 0 2 2 0 -3
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(17)2009-10 Spokane Chiefs WHL 70 4 15 19 21 14 | Playoffs 7 0 0 0 4 2
(18)2010-11 Spokane Chiefs WHL 64 23 58 81 31 55 | Playoffs 17 1 10 11 2 10
(19)2011-12 Spokane Chiefs WHL 71 17 57 74 49 24 | Playoffs 1 0 1 1 0 0
(20)2012-13 Spokane Chiefs WHL 71 22 63 85 30 39 | Playoffs 9 2 5 7 6 -3

Remember Postma spent 3 years in AHL before making it. Expect that for Kichton, IF all works perfectly as it did with Postma.

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He'll be about 4th-6th on the depth chart in St. John's among signed players, really doubt he would get a callup.

Loser of Trouba/Redmond battle, Pardy, Melchiori will be called up before him.

It'll be interesting to see how he fits in down there. I think some people have some inflated expectations based on junior stats. He will be battling for bottom pairing icetime with Chiarot and Sol, and will have be battling veterans in Pardy and Melchiori for icetime on the #2 PP unit. We'll see how he does, McCambridge seems to like complete players and stresses twoway play which is in NO WAY Kichton's strength. His d-zone coverage makes Postma look like Ryan McDonagh.
I think Postma, much like Kulda, gets far to much respect and hype than they have earned at the NHL level. I saw a better all-round game from Redmond last year than I saw from the other 2. If your likely the 5, 6 or 7 D-man, your strength cannot be mainly offense or mainly defense with a glaring weakness on the opposite pole.

Granted none have really had a serious stint in the NHL and none may ever really make the transition to full time NHL, although quick, early glimpses indicate 1 or 2 will make the big league eventually.

Time will tell on each, but it is way too early to annoint Postma as "on the big club" at the expense of Trouba or Redmond.


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He'll be about 4th-6th on the depth chart in St. John's among signed players, really doubt he would get a callup.

Loser of Trouba/Redmond battle, Pardy, Melchiori will be called up before him.

It'll be interesting to see how he fits in down there. I think some people have some inflated expectations based on junior stats. He will be battling for bottom pairing icetime with Chiarot and Sol, and will have be battling veterans in Pardy and Melchiori for icetime on the #2 PP unit. We'll see how he does, McCambridge seems to like complete players and stresses twoway play which is in NO WAY Kichton's strength. His d-zone coverage makes Postma look like Ryan McDonagh.

Speaking of Postma, that is actually a really solid comparable. In both stats and playing style, but Postma has much better size for winning battles and reaching to recover.

Postma
(17)2006-07 Swift Current Broncos WHL 70 5 19 24 42 -19 | Playoffs 6 0 1 1 0 -3
(18)2007-08 Swift Current Broncos WHL 2 0 0 0 2 0 |
Calgary Hitmen WHL 66 14 28 42 30 26 | Playoffs 16 6 4 10 4 -4
(19)2008-09 Calgary Hitmen WHL 70 23 61 84 28 67 | Playoffs 18 5 8 13 10 9
(20)2009-10 Chicago Wolves AHL 63 15 14 29 24 5 | Playoffs 7 0 2 2 0 -3
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(17)2009-10 Spokane Chiefs WHL 70 4 15 19 21 14 | Playoffs 7 0 0 0 4 2
(18)2010-11 Spokane Chiefs WHL 64 23 58 81 31 55 | Playoffs 17 1 10 11 2 10
(19)2011-12 Spokane Chiefs WHL 71 17 57 74 49 24 | Playoffs 1 0 1 1 0 0
(20)2012-13 Spokane Chiefs WHL 71 22 63 85 30 39 | Playoffs 9 2 5 7 6 -3

Remember Postma spent 3 years in AHL before making it. Expect that for Kichton, IF all works perfectly as it did with Postma.
Depending on who all gets sent down, I think he has a shot at PP1.

Obviously Redmond and Trouba would get a good shot ahead of him, but everybody else is ass on the powerplay. The fact that the team ran a unit of 5 forwards for part of last year was telling. Likewise for Melch getting PP looks.

I suspect Kichton will get some sheltered offensive minutes.

As for Kichton vs Postma, I agree. Although I think Postma is a slightly better skater.

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I fixed that up, personally, I think Postma, much like Kulda, gets far to much respect and hype than they have earned at the NHL level. I saw a better all-round game from Redmond last year than I saw from the other 2. If your likely the 5, 6 or 7 D-man, your strength cannot be mainly offense or mainly defense with a glaring weakness on the opposite pole.

Granted none have really had a serious stint in the NHL and none may ever really make the transition to full time NHL, although quick, early glimpses indicate 1 or 2 will make the big league eventually.

Time will tell on each, but it is way too early to annoint Postma as "on the big club" at the expense of Trouba or Redmond.
Meh. Postma was fine last year.

Redmond obviously offers a PK element, but I don't see him as flat out better.

Chevy will (and probably should) take advantage of Redmond's two-way unless it is a blow out.

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I think Postma, much like Kulda, gets far to much respect and hype than they have earned at the NHL level. I saw a better all-round game from Redmond last year than I saw from the other 2. If your likely the 5, 6 or 7 D-man, your strength cannot be mainly offense or mainly defense with a glaring weakness on the opposite pole.

Granted none have really had a serious stint in the NHL and none may ever really make the transition to full time NHL, although quick, early glimpses indicate 1 or 2 will make the big league eventually.

Time will tell on each, but it is way too early to annoint Postma as "on the big club" at the expense of Trouba or Redmond.
I have several reasons why Postma will be on before Redmond or Trouba.

A) Noel is bonkers for "experience". He almost ALWAYS trusts the guys with experience. Not saying Postma is neccessarily experienced, but he has a full season (under Noel no less) under his belt compared to just a few games of Postma and straight out college Trouba.

B) Postma does not need the development minutes as much. Trouba is a 19 year old out of college adjusting to a new level, and Redmond is coming a missed half season. Both should be getting minutes. Postma on the other hand now has a season under his belt and really nothing left at AHL level and there is less problem with having him in and out of the lineup. Even though I think that the Postma/Trouba/Redmond will primarily battle for that #6 role, Postma can easily slide into #7 role, something I do think Redmond or Trouba should be in.

C) Postma offers a nice partner on the bottom pairing for Stuart, IMO, Somebody that can move the puck up the ice or skate it out of trouble, which is something we all know Stuart can get you into.

D) Postma is waiver eligible. Minor issue, but I doubt he clears waivers, not an issue with the other two. I think this is more a tiebreaker than anything though, but still could be an issue.

Also I COMPLETELY disagree with the bolded part. The entire reason that those guys ARE 5-6-7 D is that they are limited. If guys like Stuart could make a pass and move the puck up they would be top 4 defenders. If Postma threw his body around a little more and was a little safer in in his own zone he would be a top 4 guy.

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I have several reasons why Postma will be on before Redmond or Trouba.

A) Noel is bonkers for "experience". He almost ALWAYS trusts the guys with experience. Not saying Postma is neccessarily experienced, but he has a full season (under Noel no less) under his belt compared to just a few games of Postma and straight out college Trouba.

B) Postma does not need the development minutes as much. Trouba is a 19 year old out of college adjusting to a new level, and Redmond is coming a missed half season. Both should be getting minutes. Postma on the other hand now has a season under his belt and really nothing left at AHL level and there is less problem with having him in and out of the lineup. Even though I think that the Postma/Trouba/Redmond will primarily battle for that #6 role, Postma can easily slide into #7 role, something I do think Redmond or Trouba should be in.

C) Postma offers a nice partner on the bottom pairing for Stuart, IMO, Somebody that can move the puck up the ice or skate it out of trouble, which is something we all know Stuart can get you into.

D) Postma is waiver eligible. Minor issue, but I doubt he clears waivers, not an issue with the other two. I think this is more a tiebreaker than anything though, but still could be an issue.

Also I COMPLETELY disagree with the bolded part. The entire reason that those guys ARE 5-6-7 D is that they are limited. If guys like Stuart could make a pass and move the puck up they would be top 4 defenders. If Postma threw his body around a little more and was a little safer in in his own zone he would be a top 4 guy.

agree with most of the above, especially the bold part.

We saw redmond in 4 games, low minutes, and sheltered INSANELY. he started 78% of his shifts in the ozone. Furthermore, we didn't see kulda last season so i don't knwo how someone could have seen more (in redmonds whopping 4 games) comparatively to Kulda (who we didn't see).

I definitly agree that Postma is on this roster next year, and his situation of it being "no big deal" if he's the 7th d compratively to the other two is exactly why. We don't want trouba riding the pine, redmond i could go either way with, but Postma is perfect as a bottom pairing/7th dman fill in given his utility.

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I think Postma, much like Kulda, gets far to much respect and hype than they have earned at the NHL level. I saw a better all-round game from Redmond last year than I saw from the other 2. If your likely the 5, 6 or 7 D-man, your strength cannot be mainly offense or mainly defense with a glaring weakness on the opposite pole.

Granted none have really had a serious stint in the NHL and none may ever really make the transition to full time NHL, although quick, early glimpses indicate 1 or 2 will make the big league eventually.

Time will tell on each, but it is way too early to annoint Postma as "on the big club" at the expense of Trouba or Redmond.
Here's the thing, though. Postma IMHO steadily improved as the season went on. You can teach defense systems, positioning, when to pinch. You can't teach offensive instinct or talent. Postma has that. I think he still has a higher upside if the Jets (or another org.) are willing to be patient and develop him.

As for Trouba, I think he will have to barge his way onto the club. His age and contract are roadblocks for him in his first camp. I do not believe he would have left school had he not thought he would at least have a shot to play in the NHL this year. I still see him as getting some time up here, but with all the D we have, I'd bet he spends a majority of the season in the AHL (unless, again, he breaks down the door which he could well do)

Redmond with his injury and contract is I think destined for the Rock at least to start the year. He is one of the most tenacious guys I've seen though so I'd bet he finds a way on the big club at some point.

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He has a good chance at being a star in the AHL and well worth a look in case he can make the jump at some point in the next three years.
I agree. This organization includes the Ice Caps, so you don't have to be a Calder candidate to be a great draft pick at #7.

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I have several reasons why Postma will be on before Redmond or Trouba.

A) Noel is bonkers for "experience". He almost ALWAYS trusts the guys with experience. Not saying Postma is neccessarily experienced, but he has a full season (under Noel no less) under his belt compared to just a few games of Postma and straight out college Trouba.

B) Postma does not need the development minutes as much. Trouba is a 19 year old out of college adjusting to a new level, and Redmond is coming a missed half season. Both should be getting minutes. Postma on the other hand now has a season under his belt and really nothing left at AHL level and there is less problem with having him in and out of the lineup. Even though I think that the Postma/Trouba/Redmond will primarily battle for that #6 role, Postma can easily slide into #7 role, something I do think Redmond or Trouba should be in.

C) Postma offers a nice partner on the bottom pairing for Stuart, IMO, Somebody that can move the puck up the ice or skate it out of trouble, which is something we all know Stuart can get you into.

D) Postma is waiver eligible. Minor issue, but I doubt he clears waivers, not an issue with the other two. I think this is more a tiebreaker than anything though, but still could be an issue.

Also I COMPLETELY disagree with the bolded part. The entire reason that those guys ARE 5-6-7 D is that they are limited. If guys like Stuart could make a pass and move the puck up they would be top 4 defenders. If Postma threw his body around a little more and was a little safer in in his own zone he would be a top 4 guy.
Also agree with this. Postma's skills are often overlooked because of a few awful gaffes that stick in people's memories. They are becoming fewer in number and if that continues--and i believe it will with more NHL ice time-- he may have higher upside than Redmond.
My question is, why has he not put more meat on that stick of a body, to allow him to engage physically? Maybe Buff could make a donation...

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Also agree with this. Postma's skills are often overlooked because of a few awful gaffes that stick in people's memories. They are becoming fewer in number and if that continues--and i believe it will with more NHL ice time-- he may have higher upside than Redmond.
My question is, why has he not put more meat on that stick of a body, to allow him to engage physically? Maybe Buff could make a donation...
Yup.

Postma is nor will he ever be a physical guy. Sometimes it doesn't matter what size you are, Postma will not be the guy engaging physically. Just not his game. And trying to mold that into his game will only be a disaster. He is a smooth skating puckmover. Do not change that, just needs to refine his game some more. And it's coming along, I still think Postma has 2nd pairing upside, something I do not see in Redmond, he does have that higher end skill, IMO.

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Which way does Kitchen shoot? Everywhere I read it says he's a lefty. But every picture I see of him (or at least I think it's him), he's a righty. Looks to be another right handed D-man in the stable. Pictures don't lie.

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Which way does Kitchen shoot? Everywhere I read it says he's a lefty. But every picture I see of him (or at least I think it's him), he's a righty. Looks to be another right handed D-man in the stable. Pictures don't lie.
Just going off of YouTube vids but he's a righty.

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Which way does Kitchen shoot? Everywhere I read it says he's a lefty. But every picture I see of him (or at least I think it's him), he's a righty. Looks to be another right handed D-man in the stable. Pictures don't lie.
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The same thing has been bothering me since the draft.
He is a righty.

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I was disappointed the isles could not reach agreement with Kitchon. I am interested in seeing how he does , when he turns pro.

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At worst I see him filling in the same role Jason DeSantis held with the IceCaps for the 2011-2012 sseason. Something that was sorely lacking on last year's squad.

I think he has tons of potential, but it's also an area where the Jets have a ridiculous amount of depth - right handed PP specialists.

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